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Title: What about Jim Webb as RP's Vice President?
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Published: Dec 14, 2007
Author: scrapper2
Post Date: 2007-12-14 14:58:21 by scrapper2
Keywords: VP suggestion for Ron Paul, Jim Webb, feedback wanted
Views: 2059
Comments: 61

I'm thinking more about posters' comments on another thread regarding suggestions for RP's running mate...and I know at this point we are getting ahead of ourselves, but what the heck, it's Christmas and it's okay to be frivalous...

Perhaps Judge Napolitano might be a better fit as Attorney General.

And Senator Jim Webb ( a former GOP'er who left the party because of the neocon take-over) might be a good candidate for RP's Vice President. Webb is very personable and articulate and he is old school conservative. ( I don't see him as a Dem frankly. That marriage is one of convenience for all parties concerned).

So what do you guys think of my VP candidate suggestion?

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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)

So what do you guys think of my VP candidate suggestion?

I like your candidate immensely. However, the dual party loyalists would freak out with such a combination.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-12-14   15:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

However, the dual party loyalists would freak out with such a combination.

I don't believe that RP has much support from those folks, does he?

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-14   15:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I like your candidate immensely. However, the dual party loyalists would freak out with such a combination.

But it takes the issue of the 2 fraud party charade and puts it front and center in front of the electorate.

It may make them realize that it's the Prez&VP candidates' platform not the R or D after their names that voters should consider before casting their votes.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-14   15:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Remember what happened when Pat Buchanan teamed up with what's-her-face?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-12-14   15:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

However, the dual party loyalists would freak out with such a combination.

These are the sorts who wouldn't vote for Ron Paul anyway. Those who take R and D seriously are either Bushbots or Clintonbots.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-12-14   15:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Fred: However, the dual party loyalists would freak out with such a combination.

Rupert: These are the sorts who wouldn't vote for Ron Paul anyway. Those who take R and D seriously are either Bushbots or Clintonbots.

There's a lot of discontent that I'm reading on Dembot forums like kos and du. Ditto for GOPbot forums lp and fr.

A combination ticket of an outsider R with an outsider D might provide something that the cast aside and unhappy former R & D loyalist voters can identify with and be attracted to.

Also Jim Webb would be groomed to take over from the RP presidency so there would be an AmericaFirst heir apparent in place to go the distance after RP retires from public office.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-14   15:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What do you guys think of Jim Webb as RP's VP candidate?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-14   15:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-14   15:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No.

Why?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-14   15:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cause I just got up from my nap, am grumpy and grouchy.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-14   15:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Married three times. Military. Dont like him. bah humbug

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-14   15:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-12-14   15:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No more 'inside' boys.

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-14   15:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No more 'inside' boys.

Agreed.

Plus I dont like military academy types.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-14   15:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Agreed.

Plus I dont like military academy types.

After Sanchez decided to 'tell the truth' after his tour, Generals speaking AFTER they got 'theirs', and so on, erased trust of their sworn word and loyalty. No thanks.

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-14   16:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What about Jim Webb as RP's Vice President?

What about getting Ron Paul the nomination first?

You guys are putting the cart before the horse! There is no time to waste. No nomination = no VP. You all make me laugh trying to name possible VP's and remind me of the so called armchair quarterbacks.

LACUMO  posted on  2007-12-14   17:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ghost: He's not a Republican.

Peppa: No more 'inside' boys. After Sanchez decided to 'tell the truth' after his tour, Generals speaking AFTER they got 'theirs', and so on, erased trust of their sworn word and loyalty. No thanks.

Cynicom: I dont like military academy types.

I've considered all your remarks careully and I found an article in NRO ...hold your nose and read it please - because it's written by a personal friend of Jim Webb and it answers many of your concerns.

Ghost, I think Jim Webb is a DINO - dem in name only. In fact in the article, his friend says there's no chance the likes of Harry Reid will re-mould Jim Webb.

Cyni and Peppa - Jim Webb is not your typical West Point officer type. He remembers his loyalties to those left behind, whose lives have been shattered by war and forgotten by those who sent them to fight foreign wars. Jim Webb ended up working as general counsel for a veterans association after he graduated from Georgetown Law School.

Peppa - Jim Webb is no beltway "insider". He says he doesn't wear a bridle well and it shows.

All I'm suggesting is that you keep an open mind to my fanciful suggestion.

www.nationalrev iew.com/owens/owens200602130816.asp

"Webb Loss" 02/13/06

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-14   18:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You all make me laugh trying to name possible VP's and remind me of the so called armchair quarterbacks.

It's just for fun, a bit of Christmas whimsy. 'Tis the season to be jolly.

None of us have lost sight of the obstacles that lie ahead.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-14   18:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Married three times. Military. Dont like him. bah humbug

Sheesh, you must hate me too. Been married FOUR times, three times to the same one, military, law enforcement.

Maybe you'll like me more after your next nap.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2007-12-14   18:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

sodie...

Not too long ago three of the the "academy" types offered to beat the hell out of me.

Plus, Lon Horiuchi is academy type. Plus today is friday and I am very grouchy on fridays.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-14   19:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I like Jim Webb for standing up against the Cheney regime, but I don't know his politics beyond that.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-14   22:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What do you guys think of Jim Webb as RP's VP candidate?

It's a very attractive idea. I think it's improbable Webb would leave the Democratic Party so soon after joining it, but who knows?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-12-15   9:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Webb would be a good partner if RP ran as in Indie. He is probably as much a Demo as RP is a GOP.

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a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-12-15   9:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You married the same woman THREE times? I am wondering what the world record would be.

What's easier: marrying the same woman again or moving back to a house you used to own and you sold.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-12-15   9:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What's easier: marrying the same woman again or moving back to a house you used to own and you sold.

Or buying back a car you once owned and sold. I've done that before too.

What a life.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2007-12-15   11:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Been married FOUR times, three times to the same one,

LOL

I knew a guy years ago who had married the same gal three times.

Driving me nuts trying to remember his name.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   11:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Those who take R and D seriously are either Bushbots or Clintonbots.

Beg to disagree Rupert. I think they're creatures of habit and/or victims of years of family/association indoctrination.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   11:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A combination ticket of an outsider R with an outsider D might provide something that the cast aside and unhappy former R & D loyalist voters can identify with and be attracted to.

Also Jim Webb would be groomed to take over from the RP presidency so there would be an AmericaFirst heir apparent in place to go the distance after RP retires from public office.

Excellent points.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   11:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm reminded of the rumor that Reagan was required to put Bush on the ticket by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP. What will they do if RP wins the nomination? How much influence can they exert on the VP choice? How will they exert that influence, if so?

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-15   11:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm reminded of the rumor that Reagan was required to put Bush on the ticket by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP. What will they do if RP wins the nomination? How much influence can they exert on the VP choice? How will they exert that influence, if so?

I'd like to think that they would have no influence at all, but as the song says, "no one knows what goes on behind closed doors." If Dr. Paul was convinced that it would help further his goals without requiring him to sacrifice his moral and political values, I could see him going for it. However, I believe with all my heart that Ron Paul is an honest, virtuous man and would not bend to the threats and/or manipulations of any wing of the Republicratic Party.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-12-15   11:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's a very attractive idea. I think it's improbable Webb would leave the Democratic Party so soon after joining it, but who knows?

I think his ties to the Dims is only GWB deep.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What does the law say about party VP selection?

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-15   12:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What does the law say about party VP selection?

The 12th Amendment states "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Other than that, I don't know if there are any laws about VP selection.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-12-15   12:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Powerful words.

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-15   12:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

WOW!

I'm absolutely astounded by the amount of anti-military bias being expressed here.

PS ... I don't count myself as military having had only ROTC and Reserve in my background.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All I'm suggesting is that you keep an open mind to my fanciful suggestion.

www.nationalrev iew.com/owens/owens200602130816.asp

Thanks for the post Scrapper. I'll check out the article. Party means nothing, but his actions do.

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-15   12:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

but he's the wrong party.

At this point, what is the "right" party?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No more 'inside' boys.

Jim Webb is the antithesis of an "inside boy".

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jim Webb is the antithesis of an "inside boy".

I don't know if he is or not. I'll have to do some reading about him.

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-15   13:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there), and Mr.Webb would seemingly be a fine AG.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   13:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there), and Mr.Webb would seemingly be a fine AG.

We're a long way from Tipperary. :)

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-15   13:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Driving me nuts trying to remember his name.

Hell, it might be me!

Sodie Pop  posted on  2007-12-15   13:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What does the law say about party VP selection?

Seems to me that the practice in recent conventions is to have the Presidential nominee select his veep and that name is placed in nomination with the expressed wish that the veep nomination be approved unanimously.

However, I believe the delegates would have the perogative to ignore the "annointed" veep and select one that expressed the will of the party.

Help me out here.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there), and Mr.Webb would seemingly be a fine AG.

IMO, "one speech" Napolitano can't carry Jim Webb's jock.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Driving me nuts trying to remember his name.

Hell, it might be me!

LOL

I was thinking the same thing!

Mail me your name. ;-)

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there)

Bots is the key word there.

I don't think the 29%'er Fox faithful are a very fertile field for RP converts.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Seems to me that the practice in recent conventions is to have the Presidential nominee select his veep and that name is placed in nomination with the expressed wish that the veep nomination be approved unanimously.

However, I believe the delegates would have the perogative to ignore the "annointed" veep and select one that expressed the will of the party.

Help me out here.

I'm sorry but I cannot help as I do not know the ins and outs of how a VP candidate is chosen within either party.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-12-15   15:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not a bad idea at all. That would be a killer ticket.

Let's go a step forward and consider RP's cabinet:

Secretary of Defense - Karen Kwiatowski
Director of CIA - Ray McGovern
Secretary of Treasury - Paul Craig Roberts
Secretary of State - Chalmers Johnson
Attorney General - Judge Neapolitano

Those are the big 5. Not bad, eh?

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Arator  posted on  2007-12-15   15:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not a bad idea at all. That would be a killer ticket.

Let's go a step forward and consider RP's cabinet:

Secretary of Defense - Karen Kwiatowski Director of CIA - Ray McGovern Secretary of Treasury - Paul Craig Roberts Secretary of State - Chalmers Johnson Attorney General - Judge Neapolitano

Those are the big 5. Not bad, eh?

Nice!

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-15   15:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The other great thing would be the cabinet positions that would no longer exist...

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   15:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here come de Judge.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   15:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The other great thing would be the cabinet positions that would no longer exist...

Bingo! You win the prize for the most insightful political observation today!

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-15   15:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here come de Judge.

I'm pretty flexible with regards to Judge Napolitano - either AG or VP.

Ditto for Jim Webb - either AG or VP.

Also on another thread California State Senator Tom McClintock's name came up. He is a traditional small government Republican. He might be worthy of consideration for a spot in RP's cabinet.

Disclaimer: Of course, everyone should remember that it's the Christmas joyful optimistic spirit in me musing aloud on this thread. I am well aware that RP's Prez campaign has several large hurdles to jump before we can realistically think about filling cabinet positions.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-15   15:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am well aware that RP's Prez campaign has several large hurdles to jump before we can realistically think about filling cabinet positions.

A good dose of optimistic enthusiasm never hurt anyone. And I am a realist.

I enjoy looking over the horizon and appreciate others that do the same.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   15:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am well aware that RP's Prez campaign has several large hurdles to jump before we can realistically think about filling cabinet positions.

On another positive note, the campaign is closing in on the 12M goal for this quarter.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   15:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Has Judge Napolitano had a mumbling word to say about the Ramos-Compean outrage?

I refer to the 11 year prison sentence given to the two border agents that shot an illegal alien drug smuggler in the ass?

If and when he does, ping me.

If he has, I'll apologize, but my deeply held opinion of this guy is that he is an attention seeking empty suit. He's part of that 99% of lawyers that give the other 1% a bad name.

PS ... the ahole in the White House gave Libby a pardon in a New York minute but has not seen fit to address himself to this miscarriage of justice. A Christmas pardon would have been obviously appropriate but was not included in the decider's list.

Oh, what's that you say? The Federal Prosecutor is a longtime Bush crony?

Oh, oh, could that possibly be the reason for silence on the part of both the Judge and the Prez?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   16:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sir Lod...

I expect to donate more beer money on the 16th to the CAUSE.

I expect you to make a like sacrifice. hehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   16:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Has Judge Napolitano had a mumbling word to say about the Ramos-Compean outrage?

He was on The Power Hour a few months ago, and I believe that he weighed in on that travesty, as well as several other abuses of the smirk regime...I'll see if the Tube has any clips on this matter.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   16:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I expect to donate more beer money on the 16th to the CAUSE.

I expect you to make a like sacrifice.

You'll have to step up for both of us tomorrow - we can't give any more to the campaign.

The RPBlimp and our local MUG are getting the spare booze bucks here in casita lodwick.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   16:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The RPBlimp and our local MUG are getting the spare booze bucks here in casita lodwick.

Giving until it hurts is necessary and giving my beer money hurts, to the core. Guess I could cut down on bread and bologna a bit.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   16:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Giving until it hurts is necessary and giving my beer money hurts, to the core. Guess I could cut down on bread and bologna a bit.

I feel your pain, Cyni - truly I do.

We'll just have to suck it up and do the best that we can for Dr.Paul.

Saturday evening 'cheers' back there.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   17:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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