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Published: Dec 14, 2007
Author: moi
Post Date: 2007-12-14 18:38:55 by WTF?
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Do you like Linux, Windows or Mac? Of these choices, which version do you prefer? Advice/Opinions appreciated, thank you.
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Hard Cider: The Good News Is That The USA's Top Spook Uses A Mac. The Bad News ... He Got Caught! Hard Cider Index For those of you that follow the news daily, you may have heard of the, alleged, Wen Ho Lee spy scandal, which involves a Taiwan-born naturalized U.S. citizen that worked for the weapons section of the Los Alamos Nuclear Laboratories in New Mexico. He is accused of spying for the government of China. The main charge against him is the fact that he had, against regulations, downloaded a lot of classified information to his personal (unsecure) computer. A 60 Minutes feature on the issue raised a lot of doublts about the case against him and said that high government officials had themselved illegally downloaded classified material to their personal or home computers. In fact, said 60 Minutes, the former head of the CIA, John Deutch, had been reprimanded for doing the same as Wen Ho Lee, that is downloading reams of classified documents to his personal computer at home. So while Wen Ho Lee was being charged for this offense, is facing years in prison and has had a 1 million bail bond placed on his head, John Deutch got a mild pat on the wrist asking him please to not do it again. Well some groups are making a stink about this calling it a double standard and putting pressure on Congress. When a bit of the fabric of hypocrisy that envelopes Washington DC gets unraveled, congressmen do what they always do in such situations - they huff and puff and preen - and of course hold hearings, so that the rest of the nation can see what important work they are doing keeping us safe. (Don't worry I am getting to the Mac connection) So Mr Deutch has been the subject of Senate hearings and they have been prying a little deeper into the "Deutsch Affair". And apparently, according to a Time Magazine report, Mr Deutsch, former head of the CIA was illegally downloading all those classified documents to his family's Macintosh computer! (Which type of Mac was not specified, but we think that on his salary he could afford the best). The article goes on to say that not only did he have classified documents on his computer but that he used the same computer for personal email, receiving a note from a former Russian citizen living in Western Europe and that Deutch family members also surfed the Web on it, one visiting porn sites (bet that got the kid grounded). The conclusion: The former head of the CIA certainly knows quality computers, and expect enough huffing and puffing on Capitol Hill to lower the heating bill for about a week or so. http://macreviewzone.com/archive/hardcider/spook.html
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
Those aren't computers (Expect the custom hardware MAC), they are operating systems. I like fast computers, but settle for what I can afford. Windows is good for games, Linux is good for everything else. Mac is overpriced but nice. The most bang for your bucks would defiantly be Linux.
God is always good!
CompUSA has some good deals right now, seeing as they are going down the toilet: http://www.compusa.com/ Click on "Specials" in upper left corner for a good selection.
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison
Are you talking about an operating system, a browser or a pc?
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
If you get an Intel Mac, you can run anything including MacOS that has been ported to the x86 platform. With a generic PeeCee you assemble yourself, you can run anything except MacOS. It takes an afternoon to build a box from parts. Use a Zalman CPU fan (quiet!) and build it to YOUR personal tastes. Tell Dell to get stuffed.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Good summary. The only things I'd add to what you said is...in addition to Mac's being nice, they're pretty gorgeous looking! and they are very user friendly,too, for doing stuff with photos etc. Right now I'm debating between a Mac laptop or a Mac desktop PC. Maybe Santa will make the choice and surprise me!
Thank you.
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
Yes, operating systems, thank you. Linux, thank you, which version do you think is best?
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
What do you do if parts fail, or you have problems? I know Dells are expensive compareably to other pc's or if you build one yourself, but for most layman, myself included, a Dell or HP are the realistic choices.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
Thank you.
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
Operating system. PC. Which version and, yes, which browser do you like best?
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
Thank you.
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
What do you think of Linux Ubuntu? Or which version of Linux, in your opinion, is best?
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
I know I'll catch some grief but, I have a 2007 Dell XPS 410 with Vista Home Premium. It has been flawless. I bought it in April. I just run IE7 for the browser.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
No grief from me, thank you.
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
PCLinuxOS I like Linux best and that is the Linux I use. It's great.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Pluses and minuses. Linux runs fast and makes more efficient use of what you have, BUT Flash, Shockwave, and Java Runtime are not available for it. Windows is crap. It is a ripoff of the Mac Interface and is not as secure. So, for the least fuss and the greatest functionality a Mac would be my choice. I have used all 3, and taught DOS before Windows was copycatted off the Mac Interface. The current generation of the Mac OS is actually a shell running on a Linux base. All of the Macs are now running on the Intel Core 2 Duo processor at different speeds. It will run Windows as well as the Mac O/S - for extra money of course. The Mac Mini is 599.00 sans keyboard, mouse, and monitor. You can get a Mini with more memory, a faster processor, and a better CD/DVD drive for 799.00. The all in one iMac is 1099.00 and comes with a built in 20 inch Monitor. For a basic machine for Web Browsing and Word Processing the Mac Mini is hands down my choice for the average user. If you have higher demands then you might need to look at a bigger box. It all depends on what you are going to use the machine for.
"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.
Atari 1200XL, baby! Accept no substitutes.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
PCLinuxOS, how does that compare with Ubuntu or Redhat?
... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...
If you work it out ahead of time as to what you're putting together, you shouldn't have problems. If you just go down to Fry's and buy a bunch of random stuff, you will have problems, just like buying some random part and throwing it into a car will give you problems. But, if you do, swap out the part. I've taken many parts back to Fry's without problem in the past. The parts themselves also have a warranty on them and you can call the manufacturer and get an RMA number - they then ship you out a replacement. In terms of assembly, I've taught senior citizens how to build a PC before. They freak out at dropping the CPU into the socket, but once they've done it, they wonder why they were scared in the first place. About the only time you'll have problems with parts is if you're using old Sun or Cisco gear -- or you've tried to rebuild an old Sequent box.....I've NEVER had a PC I've assembled from parts fry on me and I get the box I want. Its also a lot easier to quietize a machine if you build it yourself. Buy Zalman fans and a Sonata case and you'll never blow yourself out of the room with noise.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
I used some distro that was based on Ubuntu one time and didn't really care for it. I don't know about Redhat, never tried it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Very interesting, thanks.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
Which is the best? One you have built to your specs and needs.
... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...
It's what I'm using now.
... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...
Got really quiet in here all of a sudden.
... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...
There mere mention of an 8-bit system can stink up a room in a hurry.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
The best computer is the one that stays up and running for you. Whatever OS that makes it happen is great. From what I read, more and more people are migrating to Leopard, and are loving it.
lol
... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...
... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...
Niiiiice...
Ubuntu is easier to install, comes with Firefox and other necessary utilities and is a free download from their website. Just don't do it dial up because it takes about 24 hours - it still takes an hour at 1.5 MB/S. It comes downloaded with an installer so it is much easier for an inexperienced user to install - unlike Redhat. They just released Version 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. It is a good stable O/S and comes preloaded with Open Office which gives you all of the basic tools - Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Database, and Presentation Manager. It will read Microsoft word format documents. The File Manager Utility makes things much easier to manage, and it has an update manager. There are lots of good add-ons which are available for FREE. If it were not for the lack of availability of Java Runtime, Shockwave, and Flash, it would be hands down the best choice for the least $$$$$.
"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.
Okay, thank you.
... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...
With all of the talent and genius out there, you'd think those problems would have been solved by now.
That's not the problem. They are all proprietary software that are copyrighted. The copyright holders have thus far chosen not to port it over to Linux. There are some Geek workarounds for some of it but you have to know what you are doing.
"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.
You are welcome.
"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.
None of the ones I use that is for sure. At least it's not punching back.
"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.
LOL!
"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.
Adobe Flash Player Download Center-Linux (x86) Codeweavers CrossOver Linux-($40) most modern distro's use a package manager with a GUI frontend so you can just search through a list what is available in the repositories that that distro uses. installing something that isn't available in the the repo's is really no problem as most any of them have large support forums or sites/wiki's set up with how-to's where it's almost as easy as copy and paste the commands into the terminal as root and you're set, like The Unofficial Fedora FAQ that I use.
Get a cheap PC and load Firefox and kick out Explorer, which is just an invitation to have your computer taken over by some Russian criminal fuck.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
commodore 64 its the best ever
Fox News Channel is the television version of Free Republic
Thank you.
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
Better than the Atari 1200XL ?
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
A lot of people I work with use Ubuntu and like it a lot. I have used SuSe in the past with really good results. The only catch with Linux is hardware support (drivers)- printers, graphics cards, etc. Generally, with Linux, a little older the better. If you're sticking with Windows.... I like XP Professional and good luck finding a computer pre-built with it these days. You would have to call a company direct to see if it is possible. I like HP, Compaq and Acer (laptops). I would just about recommend building your own with either XP Pro, Linux, or just maybe XP Media Center though it has mixed reviews. You can still purchase XP Cd's. NewEgg.com and Tigerdirect.com have pretty good deals and reputations for quality and most important, customer reviews of products. You can use OpenOffice for your Word, PowerPoint, Excel, etc and save lots of $$$$$. And as you purchase your hardware (CD/DVD Rom) etc, you'll get all kinds of software which will more than makeup for what you may miss from a pre-built machine. Plus, you have total control. Don't be deceived. These computers you see on add for $299 have a lot of trailware which is good for about 90 days and then all of a sudden your $229 computer becomes $400 - $700. They also have about half the memory they should so tack on another $40 - $100 (depending) for that. They are also probably selling Vista Home Basic which is about as useful these days as Windows Me.
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
Thank you. Someone gave me a disc with Ubuntu on it. They also gave me two discs with Windows XP Pro and the service pack 2. I think maybe I'll use the Ubuntu because, as I understand it so far, it is more secure and stable. I was also given a tower that won't be powerful enough for XP, which is more reason to use Ubuntu, I suppose. I think if I could afford it, I would get the new Mac Leopard, but... not today. Thank you all for the advice and suggestions, I appreciate it.
“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla
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Windows is good for games, Linux is good for everything else. Mac is overpriced but nice. The most bang for your bucks would defiantly be Linux.
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What do you do if parts fail, or you have problems?
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Atari 1200XL
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If it were not for the lack of availability of Java Runtime, Shockwave, and Flash, it would be hands down the best choice for the least $$$$$.
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With all of the talent and genius out there, you'd think those problems would have been solved by now.
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Which computer do you think is the best?
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
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At least it's not punching back.
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
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With all of the talent and genius out there, you'd think those problems would have been solved by now.
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