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Title: Which computer do you think is the best?
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Published: Dec 14, 2007
Author: moi
Post Date: 2007-12-14 18:38:55 by WTF?
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Do you like Linux, Windows or Mac?

Of these choices, which version do you prefer?

Advice/Opinions appreciated, thank you.

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#8. To: RickyJ (#2)

Yes, operating systems, thank you.

Linux, thank you, which version do you think is best?

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-14   19:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mirage (#5)

What do you do if parts fail, or you have problems? I know Dells are expensive compareably to other pc's or if you build one yourself, but for most layman, myself included, a Dell or HP are the realistic choices.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-12-14   19:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: X-15 (#3)

Thank you.

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-14   19:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Kamala (#4)

Operating system. PC. Which version and, yes, which browser do you like best?

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-14   19:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mirage (#5)

Thank you.

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-14   19:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: scrapper2, Ricky J, all (#6)

What do you think of Linux Ubuntu? Or which version of Linux, in your opinion, is best?

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-14   19:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: WTF? (#11)

I know I'll catch some grief but, I have a 2007 Dell XPS 410 with Vista Home Premium. It has been flawless. I bought it in April. I just run IE7 for the browser.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-12-14   19:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Kamala (#14)

No grief from me, thank you.

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-14   19:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: WTF? (#0)

PCLinuxOS

I like Linux best and that is the Linux I use. It's great.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-14   19:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: WTF? (#0)

Pluses and minuses.

Linux runs fast and makes more efficient use of what you have, BUT Flash, Shockwave, and Java Runtime are not available for it.

Windows is crap. It is a ripoff of the Mac Interface and is not as secure.

So, for the least fuss and the greatest functionality a Mac would be my choice. I have used all 3, and taught DOS before Windows was copycatted off the Mac Interface.

The current generation of the Mac OS is actually a shell running on a Linux base.

All of the Macs are now running on the Intel Core 2 Duo processor at different speeds. It will run Windows as well as the Mac O/S - for extra money of course.

The Mac Mini is 599.00 sans keyboard, mouse, and monitor.

You can get a Mini with more memory, a faster processor, and a better CD/DVD drive for 799.00.

The all in one iMac is 1099.00 and comes with a built in 20 inch Monitor.

For a basic machine for Web Browsing and Word Processing the Mac Mini is hands down my choice for the average user.

If you have higher demands then you might need to look at a bigger box.

It all depends on what you are going to use the machine for.

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-14   19:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: WTF? (#0)

Atari 1200XL, baby! Accept no substitutes.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2007-12-14   19:52:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: James Deffenbach (#16)

PCLinuxOS, how does that compare with Ubuntu or Redhat?

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-14   19:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Kamala (#9)

What do you do if parts fail, or you have problems?

If you work it out ahead of time as to what you're putting together, you shouldn't have problems. If you just go down to Fry's and buy a bunch of random stuff, you will have problems, just like buying some random part and throwing it into a car will give you problems.

But, if you do, swap out the part. I've taken many parts back to Fry's without problem in the past. The parts themselves also have a warranty on them and you can call the manufacturer and get an RMA number - they then ship you out a replacement.

In terms of assembly, I've taught senior citizens how to build a PC before. They freak out at dropping the CPU into the socket, but once they've done it, they wonder why they were scared in the first place.

About the only time you'll have problems with parts is if you're using old Sun or Cisco gear -- or you've tried to rebuild an old Sequent box.....I've NEVER had a PC I've assembled from parts fry on me and I get the box I want. Its also a lot easier to quietize a machine if you build it yourself. Buy Zalman fans and a Sonata case and you'll never blow yourself out of the room with noise.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2007-12-14   19:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: wudidiz (#19)

I used some distro that was based on Ubuntu one time and didn't really care for it. I don't know about Redhat, never tried it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-14   19:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mirage (#20)

Very interesting, thanks.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-12-14   19:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: WTF? (#0)

Which is the best? One you have built to your specs and needs.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-12-14   20:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent, ALL (#17) (Edited)

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-14   20:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: orangedog (#18)

Atari 1200XL

It's what I'm using now.

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-14   20:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#25)

Got really quiet in here all of a sudden.

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-14   20:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#26)

There mere mention of an 8-bit system can stink up a room in a hurry.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2007-12-14   20:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: wudidiz (#26)

The best computer is the one that stays up and running for you. Whatever OS that makes it happen is great.

From what I read, more and more people are migrating to Leopard, and are loving it.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-12-14   20:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: orangedog (#27)

lol

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-14   20:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lodwick (#28)

Leopard

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-14   20:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: wudidiz (#30)

Niiiiice...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-12-14   20:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#19)

Ubuntu is easier to install, comes with Firefox and other necessary utilities and is a free download from their website. Just don't do it dial up because it takes about 24 hours - it still takes an hour at 1.5 MB/S. It comes downloaded with an installer so it is much easier for an inexperienced user to install - unlike Redhat.

They just released Version 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon.

It is a good stable O/S and comes preloaded with Open Office which gives you all of the basic tools - Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Database, and Presentation Manager. It will read Microsoft word format documents.

The File Manager Utility makes things much easier to manage, and it has an update manager. There are lots of good add-ons which are available for FREE.

If it were not for the lack of availability of Java Runtime, Shockwave, and Flash, it would be hands down the best choice for the least $$$$$.

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-14   22:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#32)

Okay, thank you.

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-14   22:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#32)

If it were not for the lack of availability of Java Runtime, Shockwave, and Flash, it would be hands down the best choice for the least $$$$$.

With all of the talent and genius out there, you'd think those problems would have been solved by now.

Change for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2007-12-14   22:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Critter, Wudidiz (#34)

With all of the talent and genius out there, you'd think those problems would have been solved by now.

That's not the problem. They are all proprietary software that are copyrighted. The copyright holders have thus far chosen not to port it over to Linux. There are some Geek workarounds for some of it but you have to know what you are doing.

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-14   22:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: wudidiz (#33)

You are welcome.

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-14   22:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent, critter (#32)

Which computer do you think is the best?

None of the ones I use that is for sure.


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2007-12-14   22:49:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: farmfriend (#37)

At least it's not punching back.

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-14   22:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#38)

At least it's not punching back.


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2007-12-14   22:54:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: farmfriend (#39)

LOL!

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-14   23:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Critter (#34)

With all of the talent and genius out there, you'd think those problems would have been solved by now.

Sun Java Downloads for Linux

Adobe Flash Player Download Center-Linux (x86)

Codeweavers CrossOver Linux-($40)

most modern distro's use a package manager with a GUI frontend so you can just search through a list what is available in the repositories that that distro uses. installing something that isn't available in the the repo's is really no problem as most any of them have large support forums or sites/wiki's set up with how-to's where it's almost as easy as copy and paste the commands into the terminal as root and you're set, like The Unofficial Fedora FAQ that I use.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-12-15   2:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: WTF? (#0)

Get a cheap PC and load Firefox and kick out Explorer, which is just an invitation to have your computer taken over by some Russian criminal fuck.

Honi soit qui mal y pense

Mekons4  posted on  2007-12-15   2:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: WTF? (#0)

commodore 64 its the best ever

Fox News Channel is the television version of Free Republic

freepatriot32  posted on  2007-12-15   5:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mekons4 (#42)

Thank you.

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-15   16:33:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: freepatriot32 (#43)

Better than the Atari 1200XL ?

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-15   16:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: WTF? (#45)

A lot of people I work with use Ubuntu and like it a lot. I have used SuSe in the past with really good results. The only catch with Linux is hardware support (drivers)- printers, graphics cards, etc. Generally, with Linux, a little older the better. If you're sticking with Windows.... I like XP Professional and good luck finding a computer pre-built with it these days. You would have to call a company direct to see if it is possible. I like HP, Compaq and Acer (laptops).

I would just about recommend building your own with either XP Pro, Linux, or just maybe XP Media Center though it has mixed reviews. You can still purchase XP Cd's. NewEgg.com and Tigerdirect.com have pretty good deals and reputations for quality and most important, customer reviews of products. You can use OpenOffice for your Word, PowerPoint, Excel, etc and save lots of $$$$$. And as you purchase your hardware (CD/DVD Rom) etc, you'll get all kinds of software which will more than makeup for what you may miss from a pre-built machine. Plus, you have total control.

Don't be deceived. These computers you see on add for $299 have a lot of trailware which is good for about 90 days and then all of a sudden your $229 computer becomes $400 - $700. They also have about half the memory they should so tack on another $40 - $100 (depending) for that. They are also probably selling Vista Home Basic which is about as useful these days as Windows Me.

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2007-12-15   17:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: scooter, Original_Intent, ALL (#46)

Thank you. Someone gave me a disc with Ubuntu on it. They also gave me two discs with Windows XP Pro and the service pack 2.

I think maybe I'll use the Ubuntu because, as I understand it so far, it is more secure and stable.

I was also given a tower that won't be powerful enough for XP, which is more reason to use Ubuntu, I suppose.

I think if I could afford it, I would get the new Mac Leopard, but... not today.

Thank you all for the advice and suggestions, I appreciate it.

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2007-12-15   21:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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