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Title: Questions for Knowledgable 4um Members
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Published: Dec 16, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-12-16 01:04:10 by Nintendo of the Gods
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No matter how hard I search the net I cannot seem to find a plausible truth of the Kosovo dispute. Why is the US backing Kosovo secession? Why did French President Nicolas Sarkozy say "The Kosovans and the Serbs no longer want to live together. Our goal is that Europe does not explode."(http://politics.guardian.co.uk/eu/story/0,,2227980,00.html) when he is a member of western powers that bare fangs at the idea of any nationalist separation of peoples?

Why is the west forming an independent Kosovo?

Also, Saddam invaded Kuwait in the first Gulf War. But someone on this board knows of his invitation to do so by western powers, because I have seen their statement but did not copy it. Why did Saddam invade Kuwait when both he and his intelligence apparatus surely knew the US would retaliate on behalf of their "ally"?

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#1. To: Nintendo of the Gods (#0)

There seems to be no intelligent answer to your question.

I have asked it before. The best (and maybe erronous answer) I have received was from a Hungarian US Army translator that I know who basically said they all hate each other. And it is a tribal warfare kinda thing. He was there in the early 2000's.

He told me that the folks in the US. for whatever reason get along.

In the region you are asking about at the High School dances they are ready to kill each other. For ancient histories. Or really not so ancient histories.

I am not saying this is true, I am just saying this is what the Hungarian US officer told me when I asked him the exact ?? you asked here.

I asked him that cause,like you, I know nothing about the situation there.

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tom007  posted on  2007-12-16   1:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Nintendo of the Gods, Tom007, Original_Intent, all (#0)

Cuz it's all staged and we're only told want 'they' want us to think?

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wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-16   1:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Nintendo of the Gods (#0)

Another neoconjob, it has been called the first neocon war..it was about their support for the KLA

this from Wayne Madsen:

More interestingly is how General Clark's Bosnia strategy ultimately goes full circle. According to Washington K Street sources, the law firm that established the Bosnia Defense Fund was none other than Feith and Zell, the firm of current Pentagon official and leading neo-con Douglas Feith. Feith's operation at Feith and Zell was assisted by his one-time boss and current member of Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle. Both Feith and Perle advised the Bosnian delegation during the 1995 Dayton Peace talks. The chief U.S. military negotiator in Dayton was Wesley Clark.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-12-16   1:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Nintendo of the Gods (#0) (Edited)

There are several theories:

1) To secure the route for a trans-Balkans oil pipeline

2) To steal the vast mineral wealth concentrated in Kosovo

3) To facilitate an illicit drug pipeline via Asia into Western Europe. Kosovo has become a key link in the illicit drug supply chain since it was peeled off. This is also interesting given the implied links made by Sibel Edmonds of 9-11 to shadowy interests linked to Turkey.

4) All of the above?

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Arator  posted on  2007-12-16   1:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Arator (#4) (Edited)

..and additionally to weaken Russia.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-12-16   1:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#5)

..and additionally to weaken Russia.

Indeed. To humiliate Russia, in fact.

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Arator  posted on  2007-12-16   2:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#3)

...and leading neo-con Douglas Feith. Feith's operation at Feith and Zell was assisted by his one-time boss and current member of Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle. Both Feith and Perle advised the Bosnian delegation during the 1995 Dayton Peace talks. The chief U.S. military negotiator in Dayton was Wesley Clark....

Scary list of names of the Usual Suspects...

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-16   2:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Nintendo of the Gods (#0)

Why is the US backing Kosovo secession?

It's not the US backing it, it's the people that control the US government backing it. Look no further than the Jews who own the Federal Reserve. They worship Satan so their ultimate goal is to kill Christians.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2007-12-16   2:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Nintendo of the Gods (#0)

Kuwait was drilling oil wells that went diagonally into Iraq from Kuwait, so they were taking some of Iraq's oil. Hussein didn't like it. and in a previous era Kuwait had been part of Iraq. Hussein wanted it back and didn't want them to take his oil. He scheduled a meeting with US ambassador to Iraq whose name was April glaspie, not sure on spelling of her last name. He explained to her grievances against Kuwait. He asked if the US would be upset if he invaded. The ambassador told him that the US had no interests in inter- arab conflicts. then he invaded. This is well-documented that it occurred. She said publicly this is what happened, and the US embassy in Iraq released a transcript of the conversation showing that it happened.

Regarding Kosovo, why did the US invade? Perhaps becuase Milosevic wasn't loyal to the new world order. or perhaps because it wanted control over the big mine in Kosovo. There is a huge mine in Kosovo that is one of the most valuable mines in the world. It produces about 5 types of minerals that are in strong demand by industry. After the US Army was put in control of Kosovo at the end of the war some armed men came into the mine and at gunpoint forced the Serbian owners/managers to leave. I would bet that ownership of that mine changed hands as a result of the war, and the new owners are cooperative at sharing profits and at pricing policy to coordinate with new world order. the mine is said to be worth over $2 trillion.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-12-16   12:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones (#9)

the mine is said to be worth over $2 trillion.

most interesting

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robin  posted on  2007-12-16   18:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Arator (#4)

A plausible list of reasons.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-16   18:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ, Nintendo of the Gods, Arator, scrapper2, wudidiz, tom007, Red Jones, Robin, Zipporah (#8)

I read this thread the other day. I discovered another explanation today when I watched an interview with Eustace Mullins. In it he said that Clinton was just following up on Hitler's original plan which was to attack the Serbs in Yugoslavia before invading Russia.

This would seem to be insane for the Bilderbergers to invade Russia. But leaders of the NWO are far from sane. In fact insanity and depravity are a prerequisite for joining.

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Horse  posted on  2007-12-19   1:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Nintendo of the Gods (#0)

Also on the issue regarding Saddam and Kuwait, this is an excerpt from the interview of Saddam by US Ambassador April Glaspie:

www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html

GLASPIE: We have many Americans who would like to see the price go above $25 because they come from oil-producing states.

HUSSEIN: The price at one stage had dropped to $12 a barrel and a reduction in the modest Iraqi budget of $6 billion to $7 billion is a disaster.

GLASPIE: I think I understand this. I have lived here for years. I admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. I know you need funds. We understand that and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.

I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 60's. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction. We hope you can solve this problem using any suitable methods via Klibi or via President Mubarak. All that we hope is that these issues are solved quickly. With regard to all of this, can I ask you to see how the issue appears to us?

My assessment after 25 years' service in this area is that your objective must have strong backing from your Arab brothers. I now speak of oil But you, Mr. President, have fought through a horrific and painful war. Frankly, we can see only that you have deployed massive troops in the south. Normally that would not be any of our business. But when this happens in the context of what you said on your national day, then when we read the details in the two letters of the Foreign Minister, then when we see the Iraqi point of view that the measures taken by the U.A.E. and Kuwait is, in the final analysis, parallel to military aggression against Iraq, then it would be reasonable for me to be concerned. And for this reason, I received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship -- not in the spirit of confrontation -- regarding your intentions.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-12-19   8:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah (#13)

This is likely from the Iraqi transcription of the interview April had with Saddam.

The US State refuses to provide their transcription of the infamous interview.

Interesting, no?

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tom007  posted on  2007-12-19   9:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tom007 (#14)

Quite interesting.. this was taken from the NY Times and it is the Iraqi transcript..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-12-19   9:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Horse, *Russia* (#12)

insanity ping

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robin  posted on  2007-12-19   11:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Horse, RickyJ, Nintendo of the Gods, Arator, scrapper2, tom007, Red Jones, Robin, Zipporah (#12)

This would seem to be insane for the Bilderbergers to invade Russia. But leaders of the NWO are far from sane. In fact insanity and depravity are a prerequisite for joining.

Bwah-ha-ha-ha! They're thinking of attacking Russia.

Sorry.

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wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-19   12:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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