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Title: Bushbots and Jew-Bashers Are More Alike Than Either Would Care to Admit
Source: observations on multiple fora
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jun 14, 2005
Author: Arator
Post Date: 2005-06-15 00:37:46 by Arator
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Keywords: Jew-Bashers, Bushbots, Either
Views: 2103
Comments: 94

Both Bushbots and Jew-Bashers desperately crave the clarity (and unreality) of a black and white, fairy-tale-like world.

Both Bushbots and Jew-Bashers think they (and their kind) are intrinsically good while some alien other (and their kind) are intrinsically evil.

Both Bushbots and Jew-Bashers are blind to the evil they (and their kind) do.

Both Bushbots and Jew-Bashers are equally blind to the good that those they deem evil do and/or intrinsically possess because they are human beings, just like Bushbots and Jew-Bashers are.

Both Bushbots and Jew-Bashers believe the world would be a better place if those they deem intrinsically evil were collectively forced to be and live just like them. They think the answer to evil is to effectively extinguish the alien other's identity and existance.

Both Bushbots and Jew-Bashers would deny to an alien other fundamental aspects of what it means to be human -- aspects they would never think of giving up themselves.

Both Bushbots and Jew-Bashers lack humility and are oblivious to their own hypocrisies, particularly how much alike they each are to each other.

Bushbots hate Jew-Bashers because they project their own evil into a different alien other. Jew-Bashers hate Bushbots for the same reason.

Those whose minds have not been bent by the Bushbots' and Jew-Bashers' perverse ways of thinking and relating to their fellow man know that good and evil is the common possession of all men. It's locus does not reside in any single race, culture, or way of life. On the contrary, all men, races, cultures, and ways of life are agrieved by evil and elevated by good.

Non-Bushbots and non-Jew-Bashers also know that extinguishing another's identity by force and denying to them fundamental aspects of our common humanity can never promote the good but always compounds evil with even grosser evil. It may even set off a vicious cycle of evil repaying evil that can only end in our mutual anihilation, mutual dehumanization, and, ultimately, a shared apocolypse.

So, Bushbots and Jew-Bashers, quit mimicking each other's worst derangements thinking that you oppose them. The fact that you happen to pick different alien others to subjegate and dehumanize doesn't make you dissimilar. It makes you more alike than either of you would probably care to admit.


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#42. To: Jhoffa_, Flintlock (#19)

While I acknowledge that there's allot to legitimately criticize here, the "Nuke Mecca/the Ragheads/etc, over 9/11" crowd is just as vile as the groups you mention above and just as willing to inflict any kind of hardship or damage on innocent people they deem to be "inferior"

If they are to be believed, we have the option, if not the moral duty, to make a bunch of people who've never harmed us as miserable as we see fit.

very well said and that minister you mentioned? he's a minister of satan. he's going to hell, as Flint likes to say.

Beating a political stake in your black heart will be the fulfillment of my life ... ," ~Cindy Sheehan to Bush

christine  posted on  2005-06-15   11:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#39)

...because I have provided a website in which people are free to discuss it.

That's what is really troubling them.

Anyway, a good question for these types:

Who are you more pissed off at:

A) the "Jew-Bashers"

OR

B) those Jews engaging in the conduct, activites and behaviors that cause the "Jew-Bashing"

If you love America, you'll hate Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-15   11:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Arator (#1)

Who are you more pissed off at:

A) the "Jew-Bashers"

OR

B) those Jews engaging in the conduct, activites and behaviors that cause the "Jew-Bashing"

If you love America, you'll hate Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-15   11:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Tauzero (#36)

But persuasion of the opposition may or may not have anything to do with victory.

There won't be any victory if the opposition is misdefined or mistargeted.

The problem is not with someone being Gentile, Jewish, Christian, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, etc.

The problem is the ongoing lawbreaking, theft, terrorism, killing, manipulation, etc conducted by any number of worldwide governments, militaries, parties, lobbies, agencies, and treaty organizations (and I won't even start on the financial/economic dimensions). To mischaracterize the problem by accepting the labels assigned by opposing factions is to accept defeat.

Terrorism ends when terrorists are eliminated. Thievery ends when thieves are eliminated. Lawbreaking ends when criminals are eliminated (or laws - lol).

Should there be "victory" over kikes, fundies, rinos, commies, ragheads, zionists, neonazis, etc., there will still be defeat at the hands of terrorists, theives, and criminals.

And some people are best persuaded by banging them on the head with a stick.

In the immortal words of that sage philosopher, Ins. Harry Callahan, "as long as the right heads get banged", agreed.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-06-15   11:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: christine (#39)

This is my sentiment exactly. In my postings on this topic, I have made a conscious effort not to "jew bash." My criticism is of the STATE OF ISRAEL and the ZIONIST doctrine. I do not malign the jewish people. I do not malign JUDAISM. As a matter of fact, nearly all of my postings have been articles and comments making the distinction between ZIONISM and JUDAISM. My emphasis has always been on the political and foreign policy influence the STATE of Israel and the IsraelFirsters have within our government. Never once have I been critical of the jewish religion.

Still, I have been called a stormfronter, neo-nazi, racist, jew hater, and other names just because I dare to voice my opinion on this issue and because I have provided a website in which people are free to discuss it.

Agreed.. I am a Constitutionalist.. and of course the 1st amendment protects freedom of religion.. so if I were antijewish would that not be in direct contradiction to my values AS a constitutionalist? My concerns are political plain and simple. Uncritical support of any nation EVEN our own is ridiculous.. and defies logic.

Turning away....

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-15   12:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Arator (#0)

Hmm not sure on this.. as politically these groups are in opposition politically speaking.. if you are trying to say that they are alike in that their biases get in the way of logical thought..then you have a point.

Turning away....

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-15   12:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Zipporah (#47)

But what of biases that derive from logical thought?

If you love America, you'll hate Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-15   12:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: wbales (#48)

But what of biases that derive from logical thought?

Being biased is "an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment".. so therefore.. a conclusion based on logical thought wouldnt be considered being biased..

Turning away....

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-15   12:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Starwind (#45)

Lawbreaking ends when criminals are eliminated (or laws - lol).

;)

they've made us all criminals cuz there's so many of 'em-- unconstitutional statutes enacted by agencies, i might add.

Beating a political stake in your black heart will be the fulfillment of my life ... ," ~Cindy Sheehan to Bush

christine  posted on  2005-06-15   12:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Zipporah (#49)

a conclusion based on logical thought wouldnt be considered being biased..

Tell that to people complaining about "Jew bashing".

If you love America, you'll hate Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-15   12:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Burkeman1 (#9)

What I personally find offensive among the Jew obssessors and their twisted cousins, the "Illuminati" believers, is basically everything I know, all the books I have read, all the great minds and articulate theories and meticulous scholarship on the past can be thrown into a trash can and the vast human experience throughout recorded history is reduced to the ramblings of paranoid, half literate, pamphleteers.

Sorry. I don't take them seriously and I have no time for them.

hmmm..would you consider Texe Marrs, author of numerous books on the topic including "Circle of Intrigue: The Hidden Inner Circle of the Global Illuminati Conspiracy"

Book Description

Cloaked in mystery and shrouded in secrecy, ten ruthless men comprise the "Inner Circle" of the Illuminati conspiracy. In this explosive book, based on over nine years of intense, investigative research, Texe Marrs exposes the diabolical Plan which these evil men call their "Great Work." He unmasks their occult religion and discloses how this hidden group meets privately behind closed doors and issues strict orders to a network of agents and associates spread throughout the globe. The Inner Circle sets the agenda for such notorious organizations as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Priory of Sion, the Order of Skull & Bones, and the Grand Lodges of Freemasonry. The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Russian KGB, and British Intelligence also work for the Inner Circle and enforce its directives. Presidents, prime ministers, and dictators alike bow to this hidden group and plot together for World Government.

Circle of Intrigue reveals the shocking truth about the World Conspiracy and warns of the cosmic destiny of this murderous clique of super-rich conspirators. Will their despicable plot succeed? Have they decreed bloodshed for America's future? Will you end up one of their victims?--This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

About the Author

Texe Marrs is author of the landmark #1 national bestseller, Dark Secrets of the New Age, and 35 other books. He has taught American defense policy, international affairs, and political science at the University of Texas at Austin and two other universities. A retired career officer in the U.S. Air Force, he served throughout Europe and Asia. His Power of Prophecy shortwave radio program is heard around the world.--This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

in that category? or Dr. Stan Monteith, author of "Brotherhood of Darkness," just to name two?

Beating a political stake in your black heart will be the fulfillment of my life ... ," ~Cindy Sheehan to Bush

christine  posted on  2005-06-15   13:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#52)

Whatever name that is given them Illuminati or whatever.. anyone who denies there is a concerted effort by groups of people to hold power over this country and the world and control the monetary system is ignoring the obvious.

Turning away....

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-15   13:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Zipporah (#53)

...and control the monetary system is ignoring the obvious.

Or, defending the obvious.

If you love America, you'll hate Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-15   13:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: wbales (#54)

Or, defending the obvious.

..true..

Turning away....

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-15   13:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: toddbrendanfahey (#8)

Um...there's a huge chasm between being a "Jew-basher" and being a strident foe of the kind of massive "foreign aid" that the taxpayer is forced to give to Israel yearly, and also of those who that the dual-allegiance Israel-first moles within "our government" are prevalent and wholly criminal.

Dig?

I agree. I oppose US foreign aid to every nation, including Israel.

My definition of "Jew-Bashing" is much narrower. See my post to RickyJ atop this thread for clarification.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-06-15   22:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: wbales (#44)

I see very little "Jew" bashing by anyone anywhere. The very little I see more than likely originates from the ADL itself. Why do people get so upset that "Jews" are criticized but don't get upset when "Jews" not only criticize but persecute Christians? I think we a have a legitimate case of Christian bashing going on in this country and these hateful people include the "Jews". If people don't like the truth, then they should remember what Jesus called these clowns - vipers, serpents, and devils. People that go by the Jewish label today are NOT Christian. They have rejected Christ and are just as lost and evil as any other group that has rejected him. Criticizing these people, for rejecting Christ and persecuting Christians with a lot more than just mere words, is not a sin and those that try to make it out to be one are highly suspect as an enemy of God. "Jews" and the devil have latched onto the anti-Christ spirit that Christ talked about. When Jesus sends them to hell there will be plenty of so-called Christians shocked and joining them there as well.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-06-16   1:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: RickyJ (#57)

Primus rocks!

Dakmar  posted on  2005-06-16   1:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Arator (#2)

JOHN

Chapter 8

1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the
beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the
father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
.

The Pharisees and the scribes pressured the Romans to crucify Christ. They were Jews.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-06-17   17:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#59)

If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

This verse very clearly shows that those that go by the popular meaning of the Jewish label today do not have the almighty God as their father. Maybe that's why they cannot even spell out his name properly. All people who have heard the truth of the gospel and have rejected it have rejected the Son of God and his father.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-06-17   17:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#59)

The Pharisees and the scribes pressured the Romans to crucify Christ. They were Jews.

Some Pharasees and scribes did. Others did not. Do not make the mistake of taking words spoken too and about specific individuals and applying them to whole catagories of people.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-06-17   19:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Arator (#61)

Are you doubting Christs' words?

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-06-17   19:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Arator (#61)

MASTERMIND OF 9/11! Rabbi Dov Zakheim: Under-sec of Defense

Fri Jun 11, 2004 02:45 69.43.13.1

I believe that Mr. St. John has just identified the Mastermind of the operation of Sept. 11th! READ THIS ARTICLE AGAIN! http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi? id=149495;article=57214;show_parent=1

"In the context of 9/11 it also needs to be pointed out that Rabbi Dov Zakheim was Chief Executive Officer of System Planning Corporation's International Division until President George W. Bush appointed him Undersecretary of Defense and Comptroller of the Pentagon. Not long before Rabbi Zakheim rose to power over the Pentagon's labyrinthine, bottomless accounts, he co-authored an article entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century" which was published by The Project for a New American Century in September 2000, exactly a year before 9/11; in this article, on page 51, it is stated that "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor"! Voila! 9/11!"

Anyone else done any research on this stealthy, never-mentioned "undersecretary of defense" (authority) and controller of the Pentagon (funding/power)? TIME TO PUT THIS NAME AT THE FORE OF CHIEF SUSPECTS---and, without apology, here is a obviously Jewish/Zionist (Rothchild agent) man of authority, with the remote- control expertise (CEO of System Planning Corporation--aircraft remote control tech!), with authority just under Rumsfeld, the PNAC policy WRITER (talk about central figure!), and the power of shifting funds within the Pentagon itself! This suspect shows Motive, Means, and Opportunity...all in ONE MAN! I believe he could very well be THE MASTERMIND OF 9/11! (Amazing how he is never mentioned in press either).

POST ANYTHING ON THIS MAN!! Time to indict, not an Arab, but a Jew!


I'm not falting "ALL" Jews, just the One who was behind 911, killing 3,000 Americans and the ones "covering it up"

Dov Zakheim and the 9/11 Conspiracy

Deciphering Dov Zakheim

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-06-17   20:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#62)

Are you doubting Christs' words?

No. Christ was not talking about all Jews (he was one, as were his disciples) or even all scribes and Pharisees (there were believers in the Sanhedrin). It would twist his words to so construe them.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-06-17   20:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Arator (#64)

OSP-AIPAC SPY CASE REVEALS ISRAELI PLOT TO PLANT IRAN WMD DATA

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-06-17   20:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Arator (#24)

Two festering peas in a rotten pod,

As a rule, the peas rot first then destroy the pod.

/chuckle

Brian S  posted on  2005-06-17   20:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Arator (#61)

Do not make the mistake of taking words spoken too and about specific individuals and applying them to whole catagories of people.

When Jesus said those that don't love him don't love God he is talking about a whole lot of people, including those that proudly procalim they are Jews today. Real Jews do not proclaim they are Jews today, they proclaim they are Christians. Jews were never meant to be a race of people, it was and is a religious group.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-06-17   22:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: christine (#52)

The Illuminati were a secret society of secular humanists and reformers in Germany who were anti nobility in the early 19th century. They lasted about 15 years before being broken up. They don't exist and haven't existed for 200 years.

There are plenty of real conspiracies involving real people who don't belong to some fantasy multi generational conspiracy with nebulous aims about a "New World Order".

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-06-19   2:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Burkeman1 (#68)

There are plenty of real conspiracies involving real people who don't belong to some fantasy multi generational conspiracy with nebulous aims about a "New World Order".

I can recall people discussing the CFR (Council On Foreign Relations) and Bilderbergers 20 years ago being called kooks, weirdos and conspiracy freaks.

Well, the weirdos were right.

Secret Societies such as the Illuminists still exist today. The Vatican's Banker, Calvi was hung from Black Friars Bridge with bricks in his pockets by Illuminists wishing to make a point. His death was determined a "suicide" by the British Police Agencies ... point made.

Secret Societies are filled with dupes that act as camoflauge for the satanists that blend in with them.

I can't recall where I read it but I did read that "BEHIND EVERY MASONIC LODGE THERE IS A JEW" ...

It's gonna get worse before it gets "worser" !

noone222  posted on  2005-06-19   7:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Burkeman1, christine (#68)

There are plenty of real conspiracies involving real people who don't belong to some fantasy multi generational conspiracy with nebulous aims about a "New World Order".

I don't know about the Illuminati, but the generation conspiracy of the "Order of Death" of "Skull & Bones" is as real and documentable as a heart attack.

So is the globalist Anglo-American cabal behind the Roundtable Groups/Council of Foreign Relations.

One can no more deny them than one can deny the moon or the sun.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-06-19   11:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: noone222 (#69)

I can't recall where I read it but I did read that "BEHIND EVERY MASONIC LODGE THERE IS A JEW" ...

And in the front are a whole lot more of Anglo-WASP types.

But the Jew in the rear is so powerful, he controls all the WASPS, right?

You are loony. Your Jew-obsession has blinded you to the evils of Anglo elites. You blame their evil on the Jew. How convenient. And how utterly pathetic.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-06-19   11:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: RickyJ (#67)

When Jesus said those that don't love him don't love God he is talking about a whole lot of people, including those that proudly procalim they are Jews today. Real Jews do not proclaim they are Jews today, they proclaim they are Christians. Jews were never meant to be a race of people, it was and is a religious group.

For some unknown reason people are unable to understand this..

Candles in the Rain

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-19   11:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Arator (#70)

I don't know about the Illuminati, but the generation conspiracy of the "Order of Death" of "Skull & Bones" is as real and documentable as a heart attack.

I agree with you. I don't know if there is a formal Illuminati, but there certainly is an informal organization that funcitons the same way. Back in the 1990s I had some dealings with the Jonathan Club in LA. In many ways they fit the bill. The members participated in the Bohemian Grove parties and went on the Santa Barbara Trail Ride every year. There is such a thing as an American Aristocracy and many belong to this club.

I never met anyone particularly evil there, but they were a group of very, very wealthy people who were dedicated to guarding their own interests. They knew others like themselves throughout the world. There arn't that many of them.

You're right about the jewish angle. These people were straight Pasadena wasp types. I worked with a jewish guy out of Century City who would make a face everytime I told him I was doing something at the Jonathan Club. I would ask him what the problem was and he would never explain. I later learned about the West Side/Pasadena wasp jewish split in LA. This goes way back to the 1920s. The Jonathan Club was and is the wasp bastion. These are the "other goys" that Tom Wolfe talks about in his book "Bonfire of the Vanities".

crack monkey  posted on  2005-06-19   11:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Burkeman1, Arator (#68)

There are plenty of real conspiracies involving real people who don't belong to some fantasy multi generational conspiracy with nebulous aims about a "New World Order".

So is the globalist Anglo-American cabal behind the Roundtable Groups/Council of Foreign Relations.

I think you two are saying the same thing.

christine  posted on  2005-06-19   12:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Arator (#70)

People get all caught up in these clubs and frats of rich people as if they are anything more than what they are- clubs and frats. Wow- the very wealthy and the very powerful have associations and clubs that they belong too just like everyone else on the planet. If they were to engage in plots and intrigues they most likely would engage in them with people they know and that are in the same circles, i.e. the same clubs and groups.

Now does this mean they have a super secret network of functionaries all over the globe with near magical powers of surveilance and an amazing ability to effect nearly everything going on? No. Does it mean they have some super agenda to create a "New World Order" and a one world government and that they have been cultivating this conspiracy for centuries? No.

They, are caught up in the same nonsense about "globalization" like half the world and many think it "inevitiable" and indeed propagate and push for it.

Perhaps it is a matter of presentation. But DC's elites have interests that are inclined toward globalization as they define it with DC the center of this global government. Does this mean they are part of some grand conspiracy? Not really. Does it mean they have not committed monsterous plots and crimes through conspiracy? No.

What I object too is the whole mythology of these secret groups and their seeminlgly limitless power and almost supernatural powers of prediction and control.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-06-19   15:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Burkeman1 (#75)

Lord Burkmanstein, yours a ridiculous post, but I'll clue you in that "globalization" is code for World Socialism...If you don't think that also means totalitarianism, you are lost.

Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

Eoghan  posted on  2005-06-19   15:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: christine, Burkeman1, Arator (#74)

Illuminazi 9-11
Who benefits from this atrocity? Islam? Israel? Or is it those who wish to establish a New World Order
Watch Video

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-06-19   15:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Eoghan (#76)

Lord Burkmanstein, yours a ridiculous post, but I'll clue you in that "globalization" is code for World Socialism...If you don't think that also means totalitarianism, you are lost.

Take it one step further.. it's communism repackaged.. renamed.. not neoconservatism.. but neocommunism.

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-19   15:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Zipporah (#78)

Yep, in a nutshell, Illuminism is Communism. But, only to those willing to do homework and give the subject matter its due diligence...

Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

Eoghan  posted on  2005-06-19   15:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Burkeman1 (#75)

Now does this mean they have a super secret network of functionaries all over the globe with near magical powers of surveilance and an amazing ability to effect nearly everything going on?

You're good at raising up strawmen to knock down. Now, how about some facts:

The "Order of Death" or "Skull and Bones" is indeed a super-secret network here in America.

While they do not have "magical powers of surveilance," they are positioned atop the American political and financial power structure. Their powers, such as they are, are quite terrestrial, though awesomely so, not magical.

They do not manage everything that goes on. No men have that power. They are quite adept at managing what they do manage, however, namely:

- world-wide drug running
- world-wide arms sales
- world-wide tumult and war to maintain a growing demand for arms and drugs

Furthermore, they are quite adept at subverting potentially rival power centers and placing their resources into their control.

They've practiced this deadly game for over a century now. They have financed the rise to power of nearly every mass murdering monster of the last century, including Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. They have the blood of millions on their hands.

9-11 and the debacle in Iraq is just their latest handiwork.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2005-06-19   16:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Eoghan (#79)

Doesnt take a lot really to come to that realization.. And GHW Bush was the first president that uttered the phrase 'new world order'.. so this wasnt something cooked in the minds of conspiracy theorists..

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Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-19   16:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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