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Title: US Congress Passes Gun Bill In Response To VTECH Rampage
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN1963867920071219
Published: Dec 19, 2007
Author: Thomas Ferraro
Post Date: 2007-12-19 19:15:33 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 125
Comments: 7

WASHINGTON, Dec 19 (Reuters) - The U.S. Congress, prodded by the deadliest shooting rampage in modern American history, passed legislation on Wednesday designed to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

Without objection, the Senate and House of Representatives approved the measure, which would bolster background checks for gun buyers, and sent it to President George W. Bush to sign.

The measure would be the first major new gun-control law in more than a decade. It was drafted after a deranged gunman killed himself and 32 others in April at Virginia Tech university.

The product of months of talks, the bill was finally agreed to as lawmakers prepared to wrap up their work for the year and head home for the holidays.

"Together, we have crafted a bill that will prevent gun violence, but maintain the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens" to bear arms, said Democratic Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York, a chief sponsor of the bill. Her husband was killed and son injured in 1993 when a gunman opened fire on a train.

The 4 million-member National Rifle Association, which has helped stop numerous gun-control bills as one of the nation's most powerful pro-gun lobbying groups, backed this one.

"This is good public policy," said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam.

Americans are among the world's most heavily armed people, and the country has one of the world's highest murder rates.

There are an estimated 250 million privately owned guns in the United States, which has a population of about 300 million. About 30,000 people a year die from gun wounds.

Congress has long been reluctant to tackle the politically explosive issue of gun control. But it did so after it was disclosed that the Virginia Tech gunman had once been deemed by a judge to be dangerous and the information never reached a background check system for gun buyers.

The legislation would provide financial incentives for states to provide mental health and criminal records to a database used for federal background checks on gun buyers.

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The 1968 Gun Control Act prohibits anyone found by a court to be "a mental defective" from possessing a gun. It also bars felons, fugitives, drug addicts and wife beaters.

But because of state privacy laws and fiscal restraints, most states have failed to fully report such records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

McCarthy said: "Today, we are one step closer to making sure the National Instant Background Check System does what it was it was designed to do -- keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons, individuals subjected to restraining orders, those charged with domestic violence and individuals deemed mentally ill by a court of law."

The House initially passed such a bill in June. But the Senate refused to go along with it until a few changes were made. One would require the government to pay legal fees if a person who claims to have been wrongly listed in the background system wins an appeal.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat and a sponsor of the bill, said: "Nothing can bring back the lives tragically lost at Virginia Tech, and no legislation can be a panacea, but the bill we pass today will begin to repair and restore our faith in the NICS system and may help prevent similar tragedies in the future."

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

The 4 million-member National Rifle Association, which has helped stop numerous gun-control bills as one of the nation's most powerful pro-gun lobbying groups, backed this one.

I'm shocked. No, really.

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who knows what evil  posted on  2007-12-19   19:18:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

I'd be more concerned about the Prozac, ritalin or Zoloft these people were on, than the guns.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-12-19   19:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Kamala, Brian S (#2)

and let's totally ignore the fact that if VTech students had been armed and the whackjob knew it, statistics prove it most likely wouldn't have happened. "more guns, less crime"

christine  posted on  2007-12-19   19:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Kamala (#2)

I'd be more concerned about the Prozac, ritalin or Zoloft these people were on, than the guns.

Do we know if somebody will be denied a purchase from a federally-licensed dealer if they were prescribed Zoloft/Prozac in the previous 5 years?? 10 years?? Ever??? Will somebody who used their health insurance to see a psychiatrist/psychologist/counsellor for any reason be denied their 2nd Amend. rights??

Like all unconstitutional gun legislation, this will be abused down the road and Congresscritters will pound their desk and promise to hold endless hearings that change nothing and keep the citizens hostage to the JBT's in the BATFE.

Thank goodness that I can buy firearms from a private seller in the newspaper classifieds.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison

X-15  posted on  2007-12-19   19:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#4)

Guns are not the problem, the psychotropic drugs are. The restrictions should be focused on the serotonins.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-12-19   20:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#3)

That would be true if this was a "normal" case. There is no doubt that if more citizens had guns, the Vtech or mall shooting would have had less deaths.

The difference here is that these mass or spree killings, the shooter doesn't care if he thinks you or others have weapons. These end is suicides or the shooter being killed. The shooter goes in this knowing this.

As I think about this more, the drugs are more than likely a trigger or a destabilizer. The root problem goes further back into the persons history, whether its a real mental illness like schizophrenia, an early head injury, or character/personality deficiencies.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-12-20   6:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Kamala (#6)

The difference here is that these mass or spree killings, the shooter doesn't care if he thinks you or others have weapons. These end is suicides or the shooter being killed. The shooter goes in this knowing this.

yeah, i get your point.

christine  posted on  2007-12-20   10:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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