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Title: Ron Paul Stormfront Photo-Op smear
Source: littlegreenfootballs
URL Source: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/web ... Pauls_Photo-Op_with_Stormfront
Published: Dec 21, 2007
Author: Some Globalist Kook
Post Date: 2007-12-21 00:16:21 by hondo68
Keywords: Set Up, Like A, Bowling Pin
Views: 749
Comments: 43

An LGF reader emailed this photograph, showing Ron Paul at the Values Voters Presidential Debate in Fort Lauderdale on September 17, 2007. Immediately to Paul’s left: Don Black, the owner of neo-Nazi hate site Stormfront. If anyone knows who the creepy guy in the hat is, please post a comment.

Update: it’s Derek Black, Don’s son.

UPDATE at 12/20/07 5:17:22 pm:

Here’s another picture from the same event, showing Ron Paul signing an autograph for Derek Black:

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Bill White forms the American National Socialist Workers Party

Not surprisingly, Bill White, who had been the NSM's media liaison and a spokesperson at a number of NSM rallies, was behind some of the tensions that escalated within the group in the spring and summer of 2006. Standing in his Nazi uniform, White often represented the face of the NSM to the media, especially after he acted as the group's spokesperson when a planned NSM march led to riots in Toledo, Ohio, in October 2005, and attracted national media attention. Along with his media savvy, White is known for spreading propaganda and lies about his perceived enemies, including other white supremacists. He has made a number of disparaging remarks about the Vinlanders Social Club, an umbrella organization of racist skinheads, which contributed to a brawl between members of the NSM and the Vinlanders at Nordicfest, a white power event in Kentucky in May 2006. White's taunts against the Vinlanders and others in the white supremacist movement led many extremists to question why the NSM kept him on as a leader.

In early July 2006, NSM leaders Jeff Schoep and Cliff Herrington gave White a 30-day suspension and reprimanded him for his disruptive behavior and attacks on other members in the white power movement. White claimed that he then resigned from the group; NSM reported that he was expelled for his insubordination.

White subsequently established a new group, the American National Socialist Workers Party (ANSWP). Although the group appears to have few active members (White claims that the ANSWP has 6 state units), other NSM leaders did join the ANSWP. White appointed Michael Blevins, also known as "Vonbluvens," who had been the director of NSM's "office of information," and Gary Nemeth, the former leader of the Tacoma, Washington, NSM chapter, as deputy commanders of the ANSWP. Blevins is now the ANSWP state leader in Florida; Justin Boyer, who had been the leader of the Seattle, Washington, NSM chapter, is now the ANSWP Ohio state leader. White claims that his ouster led to the dismantlement of the NSM chapter in Virginia (which he led), and those in Florida and Washington state, as well as the resignation of numerous NSM state and unit leaders. In his new self-appointed position," White still spreads anti-Semitic and racist propaganda, and has started a magazine called National Socialist: Journal of the American National Socialist Workers Party.

As soon as he was no longer a member of NSM, White began a propaganda campaign against the group and its leaders. In August 2006, he also decided to bring a lawsuit against the NSM, accusing the organization of libeling him; the suit is still pending.

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Topic: Ron Paul
American Thinker's New Smear about Racist Ron Paul


Thomas Lifson at American Thinker recently published a new blog entry, which attempted to connect Ron Paul with racist ties.
by Grizzle Griz
(Centrist)

Thomas Lifson, editor at AmericanThinker.com recently published a new piece in a series of smears about Ron Paul’s connections to racist groups. Although it does not claim that the latest evidence is the best evidence yet, it specifically eschews past critics’ concerns over the American Thinker’s previous hysteria by alluding that they have finally obtained…well, the best evidence yet.

Lifson cited an article by Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs, which cited a post by Bill White, a Commander of the American National Socialist Worker’s Party and a white supremacist. White claimed that Ron Paul had been at some dinners that were originally organized by Pat Buchanan, where several members of white supremacist groups attended. That’s pretty much the long and the short of the alleged facts. Oh…they also met on Wednesdays.

The only provocative part of the post was the tone. White claims that he is exposing Ron Paul’s "extensive involvement in white nationalism". White also states that he is upset that Ron Paul denies any affiliation with white supremacist groups. He says that Ron Paul is a white supremacist of the "Stormfront-type". Finally, White claims that the Ron Paul Campaign is being ridiculous by calling "white racialism" a small ideology.

Given Thomas Lifson’s excitement over the "extensive involvement" issue, one might expect to see more damning facts. Instead, Lifson claimed that Charles Johnson had assembled all the links to the corroborating evidence. I went to Little Green Footballs to find out this supposed dirt on Paul. The first sentence of Johnson’s page reads "Take this one with a grain of salt, please". I will be charitable and assume Lifson missed that statement.

Johnson’s "corroborating evidence" included an expenditure at the Thai restaurant and two links to websites. One of the websites claimed that Paul gave a speech to the Robert Taft club, a club organized by Pat Buchanan and dedicated to oversight of the Republican Party to ensure adherence to libertarian-conservative values. The website called the Robert Taft club an "extremist group" because it is headed by a man with "racist connections", whatever that means.

The other website was the white supremacist forum where Bill White made his claim. The forum was rather interesting. Amazingly, none of the comments from other white supremacists supported White nor did they allude to any similar knowledge of Paul’s "extensive" ties. Almost all of them chastised White for being generally obnoxious. Many claimed that they had seen White in various forums and consider him to be chronically attention-hungry. Perhaps the most inetresting point came from a comment which insisted self-respecting white supremacists don't go to Thai restaurants. I never would have guessed that white supremacy could be so nuanced. (I did not link the forum, because it can be a little shocking in other respects).

This is what it all the corroborating evidence boils down to: 1) White claims that he has been in the same room as Paul at undescribed dinners organized by Pat Buchanan. 2) Those were likely Robert Taft Club meetings. 3) Paul paid for his own dinner. 4) White, an observed attention-mongerer, wants this to be significant without citing anything significant. But here is another wrench in Lifson's gears: Don Black, the leader of Stormfront (the group Ron Paul is supposedly a member of), has recently admitted that while he endorses Paul's campaign, he has never met Paul and he regrets that Paul does not share his white supremacist views.

So which white supremacist is lying? The American Thinker position would have to be that Don Black is lying about the disconnect between himself and Paul and that the two have engaged in a massive conspiracy to defraud the public into believing Paul doesn’t care for Don Black, Bill White, or white supremacy in general. Second, Lifson would have to maintain that, while Black took the all the precautions to maintain Paul's secrecy, he forgot to not endorse Paul. Finally, Lifson would have to hold that Paul has spent the last 20 years in Congress reigning in all of his white supremacist furor, while faking the most libertarian platform in GOP memory, on the off-chance that he may someday become president, whence he can unleash his true socialist white supremacist agenda.

Of course, the more reasonable position is that Bill White is a social pariah in the white supremacy movement who is trying to capitalize on Paul’s fame, that Don Black simply endorsed the 'small government' candidate as white supremacists usually do, and that American Thinker, despite its name, wants Paul to be a racist a little too much.

So here is my take on Charles Johnson and Thomas Lifson: Johnson doesn’t get a complete pass just because he warned readers to take it with a grain of salt. He made an obnoxiously-attenuated connection with no real evidence. I am sure he has been in this game long enough to know that anyone who hates Paul as much as the staff of American Thinker would completely ignore the warning. The "ooohs" and "ahhhs" of his comment section are a testament to the value of hype over substance and Johnson ought to know about that factor.

Thomas Lifson and American Thinker do not get a shred of respect for this. This is the latest episode in American Thinker’s larger campaign to smear Paul with weak and attenuated claims. The fact that he thinks this one will finally silence the critics and the "abusive" Ron Paul supporters (whine), just shows how weak his previous claims were. It is an indictment on the quality of American Thinker as a publication and an indictment on Thomas Lifson’s seething bias. It stems from a broader attitude of dismissal about Ron Paul and his supporters: an attitude which Lifson would surely like to preserve. However, I cannot intelligently predict how the ends could justify Lifson turning himself into a conspiracy theorist.

The Real Reason this is Happening

There is a subtlety at play that readers may not pick up on. There is a major battle over control of the GOP right now. In one corner, there are the old-school libertarian-conservatives. They oppose war, taxes, spending, and any behavioral mandates. In the other corner are the neoconservatives. They espouse similar core principles, but often take to equivocation because they regularly breach them. They have more or less redefined ‘conservative’ to mean anything ‘right wing’ and ironically attempted to mandate their brand of conservatism on the people. Moreover, neoconservatives have coerced original conservatives to vote their way ever since Bush took the White House and they have even resorted to overt threats.

To libertarian-conservatives, Ron Paul is a hero. He stands for uncompromised integrity, unwavering adherence to the core principles of the old GOP, and a refusal to buckle under the threat of new GOP ostracism. More important, Paul’s candidacy has come to symbolize a possible resurgence of Goldwater’s GOP. So much in fact, that he has been endorsed by Goldwater’s progeny.

American Thinker has made it clear which side they take, which is why they don't mind wrapping non-neoconservative Republicans like Pat Buchanan in this obnoxious claim. Yet, they have miscalculated some key facts. When Dan Rather miscalculated neoconservative power by misreporting Bush’s dereliction of duty, he found himself retiring early. But now neoconservatism is an injured animal and libertarian-conservatism just raised $23 Million dollars for a humble country doctor’s presidential bid. Sure, it has been open season on Ron Paul until late, but his support has firmed and it is ready for action. It does not take kindly to Republicans who lie, obscure, and side with white supremacists against honest members of the GOP. Lifson’s complaining about the "abusive" letters from supporters misunderstands normative ideas of political power and refuses to acknowledge this obvious resurgence. Barry Goldwater, who once said, "I think every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass," has returned in the form of 130,000 donating Ron Paul supporters to kick neoconservatism in its metaphorical ass. They might be pleased to start with American Thinker, but I should not speak for them: I’m sure they will be talking to Lifson himself.

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