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Title: Why hasn't 9/11 "truth" gone mainstream?
Source: Mister Clean
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Published: Dec 22, 2007
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2007-12-22 12:29:05 by Mister Clean
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Views: 578
Comments: 37

"Truthers" love to say how most Americans don't believe the "offical story" and that many people want a new investigation.

So why hasn't 9/11 "truth" gone mainstream? Why is there no action in Congress for a new investigation? Why isn't 9/11 "truth" being talked about in mainstream media outlets? Why isn't it an issue in the 2008 campaign? Where are the "Nova" and "Frontline" documentaries about 9/11? Where are the History Channel programs about 9/11 "truth?"

I know the easy answer is to blame the media but if MOST Americans don't buy the "official story" the media would reflect that reality just as they reflect the public's desire for celebrity stories.

If 9/11 "truth" had appeal or interest beyond society's fringe, it would show and that is the harsh reality "truthers" must face.

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#1. To: Mister Clean (#0)

Gonna tell yuh soonz I dun wit mah choahs, massah zionist.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   12:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mister Clean (#0)

Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story

A monumental new scientific opinion poll has emerged which declares that only 16% of people in America now believe the official government explanation of the September 11th 2001 terror attacks.

According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:

"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Telling the truth 16%

Hiding something 53%

Mostly lying 28%

Not sure 3%"

The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job.

A recent CNN poll found that the percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington rose from almost a third to almost half over the past four years. This latest poll shows that that figure has again risen exponentially and now stands at well over three quarters of the population.

It took 35 plus years for the majority of Americans to wake up to the fact that the assassination of JFK was a government operation. It has only take five years for MORE Americans to wake up to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job on behalf of the Neoconservative crime syndicate within the US.

Reference to past polls show that in the last five years there has been an explosion in numbers of those who do not buy the official line.

In 2004 a Zogby Poll showed that just over half of New Yorkers believed there was a cover up.

In May of this year another Zogby poll indicated that around half of ALL Americans did not buy the official story.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   12:32:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

A monumental new scientific opinion poll has emerged which declares that only 16% of people in America now believe the official government explanation of the September 11th 2001 terror attacks.

Why isn't that reflected in mainstream media, mainstream politics and mainstream popular culture?

Where is the action in Congress to start a new investigation in response to 84% of the public who don't believe the "official story?"

Where are the documentaries from serious filmmakers?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   12:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mister Clean (#0)

So why hasn't 9/11 "truth" gone mainstream? Why is there no action in Congress for a new investigation? Why isn't 9/11 "truth" being talked about in mainstream media outlets? Why isn't it an issue in the 2008 campaign? Where are the "Nova" and "Frontline" documentaries about 9/11? Where are the History Channel programs about 9/11 "truth?"

Patience, Clean, patience. Didn't you see Glenn Beck interviewing Ron Paul this week? He stated that 9/11 Truth is a "growing movement," and we all know Glenn wouldn't lie to us.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-12-22   12:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mister Clean (#3)

Who owns the mainstream media?

Get a grip! Wakeup!

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   12:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vitamin Z (#4)

Patience, Clean, patience. Didn't you see Glenn Beck interviewing Ron Paul this week? He stated that 9/11 Truth is a "growing movement," and we all know Glenn wouldn't lie to us.

So because Glenn Beck says the "truth" movement is growing means it's going mainstream? Ahahahahahaha!!

Glenn Beck also asked Ron Paul about some of the conspiracy theories and Ron Paul rejected them all!

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   12:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#5)

Who owns the mainstream media?

Who?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   12:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mister Clean (#6)

Hey, you're the one who seems eager and anxious over 9/11 Truth, not me. I just wonder why the media talking heads seem so anxious about it, too.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-12-22   12:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mister Clean (#7)

You could be a neo-nazi, you could be from LGF. That is the beauty of your insanity.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   12:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vitamin Z (#8)

Hey, you're the one who seems eager and anxious over 9/11 Truth, not me. I just wonder why the media talking heads seem so anxious about it, too.

How do you figure I'm anxious.

By pointing out that the "truth" movement is going nowhere?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   12:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mister Clean (#10)

Mr. Clean wants a fight so he drop his pants. SOS,DD.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   12:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mister Clean (#6)

What part of the numerous polls mentioned in my post above don't you understand?

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   12:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mister Clean (#10)

Are you a pedagogical?

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   12:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mister Clean (#7)

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/owners.html


MediaChannel's Media Ownership Chart

This is a handy graphic chart of who owns what. This page is one large images, so it may take a long while to load on slower connections.

Columbia Journalism Review's 'Who Owns What'

Colombia Journalism Review provides a clickable list of the major media companies and their holdings. This web guide demonstrates the exceedingly far reach of these companies.



The Nation's 'Big Ten'

Here's a clickable chart of the world's ten biggest media conglomerates. The 'Big Ten' shows that concentration of media owndership isn't just a problem here - it's happening worldwide.



The Incredible Shrinking Ownership Group

In 1985, there were 50 companies who owned media outlets. The graph on this site shows that between then and now, the number has dwindled to only six, and if the planned deregulation goes through it'll decline even further. Includes the major media reform advocacy groups.

FAIR's List of For-Profit Media

FAIR points out that most media outlets are owned by for-profit corporations, which by nature makes them more accountable to the stockholders than the public interest.

NOW's 'Who Controls The Media?'
This easy-to-read chart breaks it all down - even down to which cable outlets are controlled by which conglomerates.


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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   12:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mister Clean (#10)

Do NOT tell me you are an instrument of pedagogy, because that will mean I'm on the wrong website and must graduate immediately.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   12:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#12)

What part of the numerous polls mentioned in my post above don't you understand?

Assuming they're accurate, what has happened as a result of those polls?

Nothing. That's the point.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   12:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mister Clean (#16)

If 9/11 "truth" had appeal or interest beyond society's fringe

If you keep walking around with fringe going from your neck to the ground, someone is going to call you a fairy eventually.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   12:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mister Clean (#16)

Would you like to be called a fairy?

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   12:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Mister Clean (#16)

That nothing has happened proves that the Bush regime doesn't care a whit what the American people believe. But we already knew that.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   12:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#5)

Why hasn't 9/11 "truth" gone mainstream?

A question that answers itself.

They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.

wbales  posted on  2007-12-22   12:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mister Clean (#10)

Just sayin', a lot of people, especially media personalities like Glenn Beck, state that it is a "growing movement" and seem nervous about it.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-12-22   13:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Mister Clean (#7) (Edited)

If words could form a hologram, you'd still look funny with that huge red nose, Mr. Clown. Don't worry, smile.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   13:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#19)

That nothing has happened proves that the Bush regime doesn't care a whit what the American people believe. But we already knew that.

In large measure, the media reflects what the public is interested in, what the public wants to see and know about.

If it were not simply a fringe phenomenon, it would be reflected by the mainstream media from the networks to cable and print.

If most people believed in it, it would be obvious.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   13:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vitamin Z (#21) (Edited)

The zionazis work both angles, it's accused of being a virally-growing movement by zionist A and a lazy retarded joke by zionist B.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   13:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mister Clean (#0)

Why hasn't 9/11 "truth" gone mainstream?

It's mainstream everywhere but here and one small middle eastern country sort of northeast of Egypt, west of Jordan, south of Syria, somewhere in that general vicinity.

They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.

wbales  posted on  2007-12-22   13:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: wbales (#25)

It's mainstream everywhere but here and one small middle eastern country sort of northeast of Egypt, west of Jordan, south of Syria, somewhere in that general vicinity.

It's not "mainstream" anywhere.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   13:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mister Clean (#23)

Propaganda 101

www.media-studies.ca/articles/war_propaganda.htm

Propaganda at War - Mass Media, Propaganda and Censorship

"Wartime propaganda attempts to make people adjust to abnormal conditions, and adapt their priorities and moral standards to accommodate the needs of war. To achieve this, propagandists have often represented warfare by using conventional visual codes already established in mass culture. Thus, recruitment posters have often been designed to look like advertisements or movie posters" (Clark 103).

You Write
What You're
Told, Micah Wright Mad
magazine
poster of Gulf Wars, Episode
II


The integration of war propaganda into the texture of existing mass media and popular culture allows it to announce a new mobilization of society and troops against an enemy--real or imagined--without destabilizing the status quo too radically. In other words, propagandists have to convey the sense that they are still in control, even if a new enemy of the people has emerged. War propaganda seen through the lens of popluar culture such as movies, ads, and magazine articles makes "war seem familiar and at the same time [glamorizes] it by exploiting the habits of fantasy and desire generated by mass entertainment" (103)

Showing the human casualties of war are rare in pro-war propaganda, and for good reason: no one wants to be reminded of this cost while being recruited or cajoled into joining the war effort. "This filtering sought to create an impression that was positive enough to encourage further recruitment, while showing just enough of the soldiers' hardship to maintain commitment in the domestic war effort" (112). The depiction of human suffering during war has largely been reserved for anti-war campaigns.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   13:13:09 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mister Clean (#26)

You mean people don't do anything about it except worry you.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-22   13:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mister Clean (#0)

Why hasn't 9/11 "truth" gone mainstream?

It has gone mainstream. If you think jewmedia decides what is and is not mainstream nowadays, think again moron.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2007-12-22   15:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: RickyJ (#29)

It has gone mainstream.

If that were the case "truthers" wouldn't be CONSTANTLY talking about "waking" people up and "spreading the truth" about what happened.

If 9/11 "truth" were mainstream, professional documentary filmmakers and journalists would be making films and conducting investigations. Instead, 9/11 "truth" is dominated by amateurs who regurgitate the same old stuff over and over.

If 9/11 "truth" were mainstream, "Loose Change" would have gotten the theatrical release they said it was going to get. Alex Jones would have more listeners than Sean Hannity if 9/11 "truth" were mainstream.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   15:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin, artisan (#2)

good post. Merry Christmas! ;-)

"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2007-12-22   16:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Mister Clean (#0)

Most people don't believe the official story and want a real investigation. However, the people are powerless to do anything about it. They are not in control. I suppose in theory the public could vote everyone out of congress and replace them with people that would have an investigation; however, in fact, that is not possible.

DWornock  posted on  2007-12-24   6:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: DWornock (#32)

Most people don't believe the official story and want a real investigation. However, the people are powerless to do anything about it. They are not in control. I suppose in theory the public could vote everyone out of congress and replace them with people that would have an investigation; however, in fact, that is not possible.

The media generally gives the people what they're interested in because that's the best formula for getting ratings.

If 9/11 "truth" was on the minds of most Americans, that is if it were a mainstream concept, it would be reflected in the media because it would be a ratings bonanza.

The harsh reality for conspiracy theorists is that 9/11 "truth" has peaked and isn't going anywhere.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-24   10:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mister Clean (#33)

Just keep telling yourself that, like a good little ziostain.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-24   23:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nobody (#34)

Can you believe this hogwash!?

The good people in the media are just faithfully representing what we are interested in.

They wouldn't brainwash us with propaganda for anything in the world. They are so pure, so refined, so without greed or guile. Everyone knows, what's wrong with you!

Clearly a disinfo spinner, very likely paid. But how? By the hour, by the post, or by the # of responses?

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robin  posted on  2007-12-24   23:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#35)

He's dumber than a dirt purse and basically unsupervised, far as I can tell.

nobody  posted on  2007-12-24   23:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mister Clean (#33)

If 9/11 "truth" was on the minds of most Americans, that is if it were a mainstream concept, it would be reflected in the media because it would be a ratings bonanza.

Totally false. The media is owned and/or controlled by the people responsible.

DWornock  posted on  2007-12-25   6:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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