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Title: Get Ready for a Major, Major Disappointment (Ron Paul's Built-In Loss)
Source: Meself
URL Source: [None]
Published: Dec 24, 2007
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2007-12-24 10:19:48 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 7963
Comments: 264

Merry Xmas everyone and may your grandest wishes come true, for as long as they don't come into conflict with my own :). I haven't done a vanity in a long, long, long time but I felt that it's important to discuss the reality of where RP is currently heading.

Disclaimer: I stand for just about everything RP stands for. 'Just about' stands for his continuing membership in the stupid, evil, dangerous GOP party.

Now, on the topic of Ron Paul. I just watched a clip of him on the Tim Russert show where RP re-stated in the most forceful way that he has no intention whatsoever to run for US Prez outside of the GOP reservation. The inescapable conclusion, therefore, is that RP is really running for the GOP nomination and, of course, he is NOT going to get it. He is not even going to be a close third or fourth. In the end, you will find RP trailing Huckabee, McCain, Thompson, Giuliani and just about everyone else who stands for Bush, War and the fat State way because this is what the GOP membership is standing for these days.

I am fully aware of the 'hijacking' theory. Its exponents believe that, somehow, the RP activists are going to show up all 100% of them to vote in primaries and everyone else's supporters are going to stay home and we will see RP winning state after state after state. This is, of course, nonsense. Reality is coming on Jan 3, I believe, and Jan 2 will be the last time you are going to hear about the hijacking theory.

Then, I heard someone here stating that 'the 2 parties' are nothing but tools for whomever is seeking the presidency to get the presidency. This, my friends, is as naive as it gets. The parties are Mafia-like organizations whose aim is to seek, get and exercise political power for the benefit of the inner circles who own them and they as much a 'free' tool for the people the parties put forward for the voters to vote on as the Mafia is a tool for the Mafia bosses. The inner circle has no use for RP, he does not support the type of 'leadership' they are paying for.

Now, RP is going to lose. He took millions of dollars from supporters who refused to accept that he can NOT win the US presidency under the stinky and filthy flag of the GOP. He was asked repeatedly whether he would consider running as an independent, OPPOSING the 2 monstrous political Mafias and, every time he answered the question, the answer was a strong 'NO'.

THE FUTURE: the next US Prez is going to be Hillary, O'Bama, Giuliani, Romney or, maybe, Huckabee. Ron Paul will win ZERO primaries/caucuses and, if he is true to his words, he will get back to delivering babies and representing his Texas district. I suspect that RP is going to be very much at peace with himself but, what are his supporters going to feel about it? What are they going to do? They supported a campaign for the US presidency that was built from the ground up to lose the race - and they refused to see it because they liked the excitement. Are they going to be sad? Angry? What would be the consequences of RP's campaign? The main consequence that I see is that of legitimizing the 2-party system. RP is a saint among politicians. He says and does all the right things and, yet, he insists in staying inside the GOP party and he retreats when the GOP, as predicted and as expected, deals him a humiliating defeat in his attempt to represent the political Cosa Nostra - because he is not a made made and he is not from the families. However, staying as an 'unmade' member of the organization, he adds credibility to it. It would be something close to Jesus joining the Pharisees and seeking Caiafa's job.

I will be watching with interest how the RP fantasy gets itself crushed by the inevitable political reality. Just you all keep in mind that, while 'the media' and 'the corrupt politicians' can be blamed for RP's inability to win the GOP nomination, the main problem is RP's seeking the GOP nomination instead of running for the US presidency and seeking the support of the people, not the nod of the GOP party bosses.

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#256. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, IndieTX (#0)

Good piece.

Tauzero  posted on  2007-12-31   12:01:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: Tauzero (#256)

Sadly, reality will bite in 2 days and, then, it will bite again next Tuesday. And it will keep biting and biting and biting.

A the act of a freedom-loving man seeking the nomination of the party of Bush-enablers is, if not an abomination in a religious sense, then certainly a foolish and naive waste of resources. I would call it an irresponsible and nearly-irreversible waste of resources.

I hope that the the vast majority of the hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of RP supporters are going to be intelligent enough to abandon all hope that freedom, decency and individualism via one of these 2 political machines of control and domination can ever be accomplished. While RP's message is wholesome and good, the means he and his campaign are using are wicked and, in the end, very little good will come out of it. The GOP and the Demo propagandists are going to exploit RP's campaign failure for decades to come to 'illustrate' how 'the people' had the opportunity to vote for someone supporting freedom and individualism and how 'the people' soundly rejected such extreme ideas. The 2 parties claim to legitimacy will be stronger, following the crushing RP's defeat at the hands of the corrupt GOP machine.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-01-01   9:56:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#257)

While RP's message is wholesome and good, the means he and his campaign are using are wicked and, in the end, very little good will come out of it.

I haven't read the whole thread, so please accept my apologies if you've already explained this, but what do you mean by 'wicked'?

The GOP and the Demo propagandists are going to exploit RP's campaign failure for decades to come to 'illustrate' how 'the people' had the opportunity to vote for someone supporting freedom and individualism and how 'the people' soundly rejected such extreme ideas.

On the other hand, some of RP's genuine supporters may be disabused of some illusions. That's got to be a good thing, right?

Tauzero  posted on  2008-01-02   22:06:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: Tauzero (#258) (Edited)

It's possible that 'wicked' is too strong a word. It is possible that RP was genuinely surprised and, possibly, overwhelmed by the amount of support he is receiving. I doubt that he expected to win the US presidency. He probably viewed himself as the Kuchinich (sp?) of the GOP, using the nomination campaign and the debates as a means of educating the consumers on the facts of life. If that was the goal then, clearly, staying with the GOP so that he can be in the debates, was the right thing to do. If all RP wants is to spread some message, then this would be a good strategy. The problem I see is that he DOES have a realistic chance, albeit a small one, to be elected as the US prez but as an independent, not as a GOP. I believe that it is his moral duty not to let his supporters down. He is not getting millions of dollars so that he can do a couple of 2-minute sound bites on the cable channels. People give him money because they want him to win. He should outline a winning strategy or tell everyone that he does not have one. Getting 8% or 10% in New Hampshire is not a victory. He can't win the presidency by occasionally beating Fred Thompson or McCain for the 4th place.

Absent a stated winning strategy from RP's campaign, some of his supporters produced the fantasy of RP's being able to hijack to GOP nomination process. I don't know why they do this, because all rational people with some connection with reality should know that this will not happen. RP is going to lose Iowa tomorrow, New Hampshire next Tuesday, North Carolina, Florida and all the 'super Tuesday states'. Reality is here and many people are going to have to adjust to it within the next few weeks.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-01-03   0:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#259)

I believe that it is his moral duty not to let his supporters down.

At some point -- preferably before this(!) -- I prefer to assume people are grown-ups and responsible for themselves.

People give him money because they want him to win.

Not necessarily.

It's like efficient market theory. Somebody sells their stock. Does it follow they expect the stock to fall? Could be the information incorporated in the sale is that the seller needs to raise bail money for his no-goodnik brudda.

Otherwise, I agree.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-01-05   0:20:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: Tauzero (#260)

P.S. - look at the top of this thread, which started some time before the Iowa caucuses. Lots of contributors were criticizing me for failing to believe that RP can win the presidency as a GOP.

Now... surprise, surprise, some of the contributors are talking about the educational value of RP's campaign. This is not very honest. In fact, it's funny.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-01-05   8:57:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#264. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#263)

There are some nice people in the world who aren't very honest with themselves. And hope dies hard.

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