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Title: Get Ready for a Major, Major Disappointment (Ron Paul's Built-In Loss)
Source: Meself
URL Source: [None]
Published: Dec 24, 2007
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2007-12-24 10:19:48 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 9243
Comments: 264

Merry Xmas everyone and may your grandest wishes come true, for as long as they don't come into conflict with my own :). I haven't done a vanity in a long, long, long time but I felt that it's important to discuss the reality of where RP is currently heading.

Disclaimer: I stand for just about everything RP stands for. 'Just about' stands for his continuing membership in the stupid, evil, dangerous GOP party.

Now, on the topic of Ron Paul. I just watched a clip of him on the Tim Russert show where RP re-stated in the most forceful way that he has no intention whatsoever to run for US Prez outside of the GOP reservation. The inescapable conclusion, therefore, is that RP is really running for the GOP nomination and, of course, he is NOT going to get it. He is not even going to be a close third or fourth. In the end, you will find RP trailing Huckabee, McCain, Thompson, Giuliani and just about everyone else who stands for Bush, War and the fat State way because this is what the GOP membership is standing for these days.

I am fully aware of the 'hijacking' theory. Its exponents believe that, somehow, the RP activists are going to show up all 100% of them to vote in primaries and everyone else's supporters are going to stay home and we will see RP winning state after state after state. This is, of course, nonsense. Reality is coming on Jan 3, I believe, and Jan 2 will be the last time you are going to hear about the hijacking theory.

Then, I heard someone here stating that 'the 2 parties' are nothing but tools for whomever is seeking the presidency to get the presidency. This, my friends, is as naive as it gets. The parties are Mafia-like organizations whose aim is to seek, get and exercise political power for the benefit of the inner circles who own them and they as much a 'free' tool for the people the parties put forward for the voters to vote on as the Mafia is a tool for the Mafia bosses. The inner circle has no use for RP, he does not support the type of 'leadership' they are paying for.

Now, RP is going to lose. He took millions of dollars from supporters who refused to accept that he can NOT win the US presidency under the stinky and filthy flag of the GOP. He was asked repeatedly whether he would consider running as an independent, OPPOSING the 2 monstrous political Mafias and, every time he answered the question, the answer was a strong 'NO'.

THE FUTURE: the next US Prez is going to be Hillary, O'Bama, Giuliani, Romney or, maybe, Huckabee. Ron Paul will win ZERO primaries/caucuses and, if he is true to his words, he will get back to delivering babies and representing his Texas district. I suspect that RP is going to be very much at peace with himself but, what are his supporters going to feel about it? What are they going to do? They supported a campaign for the US presidency that was built from the ground up to lose the race - and they refused to see it because they liked the excitement. Are they going to be sad? Angry? What would be the consequences of RP's campaign? The main consequence that I see is that of legitimizing the 2-party system. RP is a saint among politicians. He says and does all the right things and, yet, he insists in staying inside the GOP party and he retreats when the GOP, as predicted and as expected, deals him a humiliating defeat in his attempt to represent the political Cosa Nostra - because he is not a made made and he is not from the families. However, staying as an 'unmade' member of the organization, he adds credibility to it. It would be something close to Jesus joining the Pharisees and seeking Caiafa's job.

I will be watching with interest how the RP fantasy gets itself crushed by the inevitable political reality. Just you all keep in mind that, while 'the media' and 'the corrupt politicians' can be blamed for RP's inability to win the GOP nomination, the main problem is RP's seeking the GOP nomination instead of running for the US presidency and seeking the support of the people, not the nod of the GOP party bosses.

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#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

I will be watching with interest how the RP fantasy gets itself crushed by the inevitable political reality.

Sitting on the sidelines is a great American pastime. That is the major reason this country is in dire straights.

Sitting on the sidelines and carping is an arrogant affront that is unneeded and unwanted. If a person in this day and age still believes there is a two party system, then such a view by sideliners is understandable.

During the Revolutionary War, 70% of the Colonists sat on the sidelines, most of us know the rest.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-24   10:35:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#3) (Edited)

Please deal with the REALITY that RP is seeking THE GOP NOMINATION for the US presidency. The GOP has as much to do with THE PEOPLE as the Mafia has to do with the business of construction and garbage collection.

And, yes, ANYTHING that helps legitimize the 2-party system or any of the 2 2-parties is, in the end, more support for the anti-people 2-party system. It should be avoided.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-12-24   10:37:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)

Please deal with the REALITY that RP is seeking THE GOP NOMINATION for the US presidency. The GOP has as much to do with THE PEOPLE as the Mafia has to do with the business of construction and garbage collection.

Somehow it appears to me that you seem to have a lock on "reality".

Does it occur to you that just perhaps there are people here that did not fall off the political turnip truck yesterday???

The object is to give Paul a run for the presidency, what path he takes is not relevant. Others have tried the third party way and failed. If Paul filed as a Communist, it would not matter. Somehow that seems to escape you and adds to your illusion that there are two parties. There is only ONE party and Paul is using it, is that so difficult to understand???

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-24   10:45:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#6)

The object is to give Paul a run for the presidency, what path he takes is not relevant.

Of course it is relevant. The goals do not justify the means. It's Morality 101.

As far as the path the RP is taking, justified or not, it is NOT going to bring him even close to the US presidency.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-12-24   13:54:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)

The object is to give Paul a run for the presidency, what path he takes is not relevant.

Of course it is relevant. The goals do not justify the means. It's Morality 101.

Running as a Republican is immoral? The party may be run by thugs now, but I see no immorality in trying to change for the better. Besides, he's been elected as a Republican several times. It's only logical that he run as a Republican.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-12-26   10:09:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: duckhunter (#87)

I suspect vast does not realize that Pauls perceived "immorality" would also include all of the other republican candidates that have held office under the republican banner.

It is very difficult for me to accept that in this day of readily available information that there are intelligent people that seem to believe there are two "moral" parties in this political system.

To attach some degree of "immorality" to one candidate out of more than a dozen for attempting to become president via the only system available seems to be rather disingenuous.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-26   10:19:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Cynicom (#91)

It is very difficult for me to accept that in this day of readily available information that there are intelligent people that seem to believe there are two "moral" parties in this political system.

They barely even try to hide it any more.

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