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Title: Green Bay - Police Begin Fingerprinting on Traffic Stops
Source: http://www.wbay.com
URL Source: http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?s=2776926
Published: Dec 25, 2007
Author: Sarah Thomsen
Post Date: 2007-12-25 13:47:00 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 139
Comments: 6

If you're ticketed by Green Bay police, you'll get more than a fine. You'll get fingerprinted, too. It's a new way police are cracking down on crime.

If you're caught speeding or playing your music too loud, or other crimes for which you might receive a citation, Green Bay police officers will ask for your drivers license and your finger. You'll be fingerprinted right there on the spot. The fingerprint appears right next to the amount of the fine.

Police say it's meant to protect you -- in case the person they're citing isn't who they claim to be. But not everyone is sold on that explanation.

"What we've seen happen for the last couple of years [is] increasing use of false or fraudulent identification documents," Captain Greg Urban said.

Police say they want to prevent the identity theft problem that Milwaukee has, where 13 percent of all violators give a false name.

But in Green Bay, where police say they only average about five cases in a year, drivers we talked with think the new policy is extreme.

"That's going too far," Ken Scherer from Oconto said. "You look at the ID, that's what they're there for. Either it's you or it's not. I don't think that's a valid excuse."

"I would feel uncomfortable but I would do it," Carol Pilgrim of Green Bay said.

Citizens do have the right to say no. "They could say no and not have to worry about getting arrested," defense attorney Jackson Main said. "On the other hand, I'm like everybody else. When a police officer tells me to do something, I'm going to do it whether I have the right to say no or not."

That's exactly why many drivers are uneasy about the fine print in this fingerprinting policy.

Police stress that the prints are just to make sure you are who you claim to be and do not go into any kind of database; they simply stay on the ticket for future reference if the identity is challenged.

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#1. To: robin (#0)

Police stress that the prints are just to make sure you are who you claim to be and do not go into any kind of database;

"We promise to delete them when Pigs Fly. Just like the Feds dump the Instant Background Check/Gun Registration records."

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-25   13:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin, *libertarians* (#0)


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2007-12-25   13:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)

This is just the elephant getting his trunk into the door. Soon the entire beast will be inside trampling any rights the power elite do not wish people to have. Unless they are stopped.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-12-25   13:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-25   14:05:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)

I'm not frightened of terrorism,
so please don't go and create
a police state on my account.

LOL

saved.

... seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you...

wudidiz  posted on  2007-12-25   14:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

"I would feel uncomfortable but I would do it," Carol Pilgrim of Green Bay said.

What really bothers me about this quote is that you can substitute a hell of a lot of unsavory shit for "fingerprinting" and not have a hard time imagining the "average Joe" still coming up with this response. Things like "turning in all your weapons", "ratting out your neighbors for [insert latest fear/crime here]", "accepting cameras on every corner", etc...

It is not without travails to exist solely within the 520-565nm band of the visible spectrum...

Axenolith  posted on  2007-12-26   10:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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