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Title: UK: A friendly morning encounter has left me linked with terrorism
Source: http://policestateusa.net/
URL Source: http://news.scotsman.com/opinion/A- ... rning-encounter-has.3631500.jp
Published: Jan 1, 2008
Author: PSUSA
Post Date: 2008-01-01 13:12:29 by PSUSA
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Views: 172
Comments: 9

By WILLIAM JF PAUL Police stop and search target

I AM now associated with the war on terror. Approached by two uniformed British Transport Police officers as I descended the steps into Waverley Station in Edinburgh, I was a little dismayed.

"Good morning, Sir. My colleague and I are stopping you under Section 44 of the Terrorism Act."

The police singling me out and applying "wartime" emergency powers after my morning swim was the last thing I expected on a dull Thursday.

The Terrorism Act covers the UK. Following the failed attacks on Glasgow International Airport on the last day of June, the whole of Scotland has been under a Section 44 order.

It gives police the authority to stop and search anyone and any vehicle. No reason need be given. Originally authorised for 28 days, the order now remains in place for the foreseeable future.

On the steps at Waverley, the two officers cast their eyes over the crowd, made an assessment of me and the threat I posed, and decided to take action.

One officer casually peered inside my bag, while the other exchanged pleasantries with me. It wasn't exactly thorough. I felt I was being stopped to make up numbers.

Only 2 per cent of the Scottish population belongs to the Black or Asian communities, but they are said to be subject to 12 per cent of searches. The suspicion must surely be that I was picked as a representative of the "white" category – another box ticked.

As evidence I now have a pink receipt that records the incident and a sneaking suspicion that recent comments by Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill, suggesting the indiscriminate use of the stop and search powers at Scottish railway stations was tantamount to harassment, may have provoked a backlash.

Ultimately, it is not the temporary inconvenience that I take issue with, nor the slight embarrassment. What I worry about is what happens now that I am linked, however tenuously, with the war on terror.

The police took my full name, address and date of birth. These details – the top copy of the pink receipt – have, presumably, been fed into some database.

I don't want to obstruct the police in preventing and pre-empting terrorist acts, but I can't help wonderingwhat happens now with my name in the system.

Is that few minutes of questioning now embedded in the system? Nothing was recorded to show the result of the search was a couple of wet towels.

If I, for whatever reason, am in contact with the police again, will my name flash up with the intelligence that I have been questioned under the Prevention of Terrorism Act? Will that change the way I am treated?

Imagine I witness an incident – say an attack on Glasgow Airport – and give a police statement. I have been questioned under Section 44. Does that make me a suspect? Can there be smoke without fire?

The authorities will say no prejudice is implied by the questioning. They will say the data is protected, but recent events do not inspire confidence.

Random stop and search could be counter-productive.

I doubt it makes us safer. Maybe Kenny MacAskill is right. Subscribe to *Jack-Booted Thugs*

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#1. To: PSUSA (#0)

Welcome to the new world order. To keep you safe, as chattel of the empire.

angle  posted on  2008-01-01   13:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: angle (#1)

Welcome to the new world order. To keep you safe, as chattel of the empire.

Safe chattel, it has a ring to it, "for the foreseeable future". No point in moving to the UK then.

It gives police the authority to stop and search anyone and any vehicle. No reason need be given. Originally authorised for 28 days, the order now remains in place for the foreseeable future.

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robin  posted on  2008-01-01   13:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#0)

Your Papers Citizen! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

Ve are chust doink this to keep you safe.

Relax, all is vell. If you haf done nothink wrong you haf nothink to fear.

Ve har frum the government. Ve are chust here to help you.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-01   13:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#0)

Only 2 per cent of the Scottish population belongs to the Black or Asian communities, but they are said to be subject to 12 per cent of searches.

They're not exactly Scottish, now are they? But they are certainly members of the empire's commonwealth.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-01   13:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeye (#4)

They're not exactly Scottish, now are they? But they are certainly members of the empire's commonwealth.

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YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-01-01   13:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)

Your Papers Citizen! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

Ve are chust doink this to keep you safe.

Relax, all is vell. If you haf done nothink wrong you haf nothink to fear.

Ve har frum the government. Ve are chust here to help you.

Hear, hear OI. Well done.

The orders from the British Police - though re-packaged in different language - is no different than the commands of authoritarian regimes of yesteryears.

"Good morning, Sir. My colleague and I are stopping you under Section 44 of the Terrorism Act."

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-01   13:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: angle (#1)

To keep you safe, as chattel of the empire.

What do you think the status of "subject" means? The person is "subject" to something. And why do you believe that, under the common law (and in British law at least into the 19th century) the British crown never would acknowledge a subject's action to renounce his relationship to the king (that is, transfer his "citizenship" to another nation)?

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-01-01   14:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: scrapper2 (#6)

Thanks.

And this bears repeating:

" The orders from the British Police - though re-packaged in different language - is no different than the commands of authoritarian regimes of yesteryears."

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-01   14:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA (#0)

Very interesting. I view the UK as a canary in the mine for America. When that nation is snuffed out by the growing madness then I shall know it is about to get very interesting in America.

Patriotic Henry  posted on  2008-01-01   18:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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