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Title: Waterboarding is not torture
Source: http://policestateusa.net/
URL Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59481
Published: Jan 2, 2008
Author: PSUSA
Post Date: 2008-01-02 11:47:20 by PSUSA
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Views: 934
Comments: 16

Americans are simply losing their ability to distinguish right from wrong. I don't know how else to put it.

Up is down, day is night, left is right and right is wrong.

A good illustration of my thesis is the growing political consensus around the idea that the U.S. should stop using any effective interrogation techniques that make our terrorist enemies uncomfortable – even those involved in planning acts of mass destruction and annihilation.

For instance, armchair generals are increasingly referring to "waterboarding" as torture and saying it must be stopped in all cases.

I have no doubts waterboarding is a very unpleasant experience. It must be so because it is considered 100 percent effective and usually induces cooperation within 30 seconds.

The technique of waterboarding involves pouring water on the head of a prisoner with the purpose of triggering a gagging reflex and the panic of imminent drowning.

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#1. To: PSUSA (#0)

Author: PSUSA

Are you Joseph Farah?

"He who votes decides nothing; he who counts the votes decides everything." - Josef Stalin

angle  posted on  2008-01-02   11:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#0)

Waterboarding does work, but let's call it torture, okay?

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-01-02   11:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#0)

I'd like to know where Farah gets his funding from.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-02   11:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-01-02   11:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

As Stalin's secret police knew, what waterboarding and other torture works at is in getting the victims of the torture to say what the torturer wants. That may -- or may not -- be true.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-02   11:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: PSUSA (#0)

I have no doubts waterboarding is a very unpleasant experience. It must be so because it is considered 100 percent effective and usually induces cooperation within 30 seconds.

100% effective at what? Getting frightened people to say anything to stop the pain.

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robin  posted on  2008-01-02   12:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: ghostdogtxn (#4)

Yeah. When the Nazis did waterboarding, it was torture, but that was because they were Nazis. When the Japs did it, it was torture, but they were JAPs. When the N. Koreans, the Chinese and the Vietnamese did it, it was torture, but they're a bunch of savages, see. When we do it, it's okay, because we're Americans, and if Americans do it, it's not torture.

Besides, if we didn't do it there'd be a nuke going off every other day in a major US city. Everyone knows that. Doesn't anyone watch 24 anymore?

Give the man a cigar--one of Havana's best!

About the only thing else I could/would add would be after the 'Doesn't anyone watch 24 anymore?' is something to the effect of 'Doesn't anyone listen to our national leaders-- especially our president. But if we added that, it would be over the top, and we'd all have to go puke.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-01-02   12:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ghostdogtxn (#4)

Doesn't anyone watch 24 anymore?

I don't think so.

"He who votes decides nothing; he who counts the votes decides everything." - Josef Stalin

angle  posted on  2008-01-02   12:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: YertleTurtle, Angle (#2)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #2. To: PSUSA (#0) Waterboarding does work, but let's call it torture, okay?

@ Angle No.

@ YertleTurtle waterboarding works?

Torture was used to extract "confessions" from people that "confessed" to riding brooms over rooftops and casting spells on children. They confessed, then they were murdered.

PSUSA  posted on  2008-01-02   12:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#3)

I'd like to know where Farah gets his funding from.

Richard Mellon Scaife

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-01-02   12:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#9)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-01-02   12:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rowdee (#7)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-01-02   12:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: angle (#8)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-01-02   12:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)

I don't even know what 24 is.........I figured it was a reference to 24 hour programming on the idiot tube. And I dont' watch television.

That said, I truly can't stand to watch the current liar in chief. It was really hard listening to the prior one, and I didn't after about the 3rd SOTU. The current one drives me nuts with the smirks and the mispronounciation, the illogical cadence, etc. And of course, the actual content itself.

I'm eating some words right now--it wasn't all that long ago I was telling myself I'd never vote for another Texican for President, but then Ron Paul opted to run. HOWEVER, he is the only one I will consider from Texas---even my dear aunt who lives in Lake Jackson wouldn't get my vote! Nope! Chrissie and Lodwick are about all the Texicans I can handle at this point.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-01-02   13:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: rowdee (#14)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-01-02   13:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ghostdogtxn (#15)

Don't take it to heart.........I've just known them soooooo long compared to everyone else.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-01-02   17:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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