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Title: Obama grabs Iowa lead from Edwards (RON PAUL AT 10%)
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0264367920080103
Published: Jan 3, 2008
Author: John Whitesides
Post Date: 2008-01-03 10:59:24 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 264
Comments: 13

Obama grabs Iowa lead from Edwards

Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:20am EST

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent

DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama surged to a four-point lead over John Edwards in Iowa, with Hillary Clinton fading to third just hours before the first presidential nominating contest, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Thursday.

Obama and Edwards gained ground overnight in the tracking poll, and Clinton fell four points to third place -- a finish that, if it held, would deal a dramatic setback to the one-time Democratic front-runner.

Obama was at 31 percent among likely Democratic caucus-goers, Edwards at 27 percent and Clinton 24 percent. No other Democrat was in double digits.

In the Republican race, Mike Huckabee expanded his lead to six points, 31 to 25 percent, over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the one-time leader in Iowa who has attacked Huckabee for his record as Arkansas governor.

Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson is in third place in the Republican race at 11 percent and Arizona Sen. John McCain slipped two points to 10 percent. Texas Rep. Ron Paul also registered 10 percent.

"There is a clear Clinton fade," pollster John Zogby said. "None of it has been dramatic, but it has been steady."

He said Clinton, a New York senator, was losing ground to Obama, an Illinois senator, among Democrats -- as opposed to independents -- and self-described liberals.

"Under any circumstance, a 31-27-24 spread is still very close," he said of the margins for the top three Democratic contenders. "Edwards is right in the mix and he has made gains too."

About 6 percent of Republicans and 5 percent of Democrats remain undecided, leaving room for late swings.

The rolling poll of 905 likely Democratic caucus-goers and 914 likely Republican caucus-goers was taken Sunday through Wednesday and has a margin of error of 3.3 percentage points for each party.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson was fourth with 7 percent and Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden was at 5 percent. Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd was at 1 percent and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich was under 1 percent.

Iowa opens the process of choosing the next U.S. president on Thursday night, kicking off a state-by-state battle to choose Republican and Democratic candidates for the November election to replace President George W. Bush.

Obama, Clinton and Edwards have battled for the lead in Iowa for months. Clinton, who would be the first woman president, holds a slight lead among women and is still strong among older voters. Obama leads among men and younger voters.

Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, remained the top second choice of Democrats. A candidate must have 15 percent support in each precinct to be viable or their supporters can switch to another candidate.

In the Republican race, Huckabee gained three points on Romney. The gains followed Monday's news conference where he said he would not air an ad attacking Romney because he wanted to keep the race positive -- and then showed it to reporters.

The move was heavily criticized in the media -- but his numbers have climbed since, Zogby said.

"Everyone outside of Iowa laughed at what appeared to be a Huckabee gambit, but Iowa Republicans seem to think it was genuine," he said.

"Huckabee is not pulling away, but it's now a six-point lead and he has moved above 30 percent."

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has largely bypassed Iowa to focus on later voting states, is at 6 percent. California Rep. Duncan Hunter is at 1 percent.

The rolling tracking poll concludes with these results. In a rolling poll, the most recent day's results are added while the oldest day's results are dropped in order to track changing momentum.

(Editing by Eric Walsh)

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#1. To: All (#0)

Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson is in third place in the Republican race at 11 percent and Arizona Sen. John McCain slipped two points to 10 percent. Texas Rep. Ron Paul also registered 10 percent.

Ron Paul is within striking distance of a third-place finish.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-03   11:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#1)

Ron Paul is within striking distance of a third-place finish.

10% according to the poll eh?

I think it is reasonable to expect his real world percentage to be at least double the poll numbers. But I'm not only reasonable, I am pretty optimistic. RP wins by 3% over the 2nd place finisher.

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Critter  posted on  2008-01-03   11:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#0)

It is a real dilemma for the substantial number of GOP-to-Dem crossover, dirty trickster, caucus-goers.

Do they want to help Obama, confident that no one of his race can be elected (I think that is true, BTW, in present-day America), or do they want to help Hillary, confident that the fact she is seen as the embodiment of evil by "the base" will turn out enough of them to elect ANY GOPer over her in November.

I think the one they definitely do not want is Edwards.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-01-03   11:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sam Houston (#3)

When there is a genuine race on the Republican side, how many Republicans would want to vote in the Democratic caucuses?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-03   11:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Critter (#2)

Apparently, Pat Buchanan predicted on Tucker Carlson's show last night that Ron Paul would come in third: Ron Paul in 3rd?.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-03   11:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Critter (#2)

RP wins by 3% over the 2nd place finisher.

Would that be Huckabee? I doubt it's Romney; who has spent an *ssload of money.

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who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-03   11:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#4)

Good point. I just associate dirty tricks with GOPers. It's the Rove legacy. It's what that party will always be known for in my mind.

Rove et al. made it clear from the beginning that politics is to be "gamed" and thus the last thing they ever wanted was an honest vote count.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-01-03   11:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Sam Houston (#3) (Edited)

I think the one they definitely do not want is Edwards.

That's who's gonna take it all in on the Dem side, imo. Maybe not Iowa, but down the stretch. Hillary's not likeable in addition to her platform and Obama's not a heavyweight in the political game.

"He who votes decides nothing; he who counts the votes decides everything." - Josef Stalin

angle  posted on  2008-01-03   11:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: who knows what evil (#6)

Would that be Huckabee?

I don't know.

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Critter  posted on  2008-01-03   11:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Critter (#2)

Ron Paul Air Corps Set To Soar Over American Cities

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-03   12:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: angle (#8)

That's who's gonna take it all in on the Dem side, imo. Maybe not Iowa, but down the stretch. Hillary's not likeable in addition to her platform and Obama's not a heavyweight in the political game.

Obama is the weakest of the three, for sure. A nice guy, but not tough or experienced enough to become president. Hillary and Edwards are attack dogs who have been through the rigor.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-01-03   13:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vitamin Z (#11)

Want to flag ya to this:

RON PAUL: RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE

www.newswithviews.com/Devv y/kidd333.htm

"He who votes decides nothing; he who counts the votes decides everything." - Josef Stalin

angle  posted on  2008-01-03   14:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: angle (#12)

Thanks for the flag!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-01-03   15:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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