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Title: Live Iowa Caucus Thread
Source: Live CSPAN Republican Caucus Coverage
URL Source: http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cs ... n2v.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx
Published: Jan 3, 2008
Author: Me, I guess
Post Date: 2008-01-03 19:53:13 by Critter
Keywords: None
Views: 14793
Comments: 554

I figured we should have an official caucus thread, no?

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#20. To: Critter, robin, who knows what evil, lizza76, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, lodwick, christine, Zipporah (#0)

justin tv is on the air!

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-03   20:14:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Dakmar (#20)

justin tv is on the air!

www.justin.tv/ronpaul

Thanks.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-03   20:27:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#39)

see #24, eh

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-03   20:31:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Dakmar (#43)

Hey, I think it's starting.

It's hard to tell, with the overtalking. But , maybe, nowwwwww GO!

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   20:34:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Peppa (#45)

pledge allegiance...

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-03   20:35:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Dakmar (#46)

Liberty and Justice for all ... Bwahahahahahahahahaha !!!

noone222  posted on  2008-01-03   20:35:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: noone222 (#48)

Wow, what a great premise for a sitcom.

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-03   20:37:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Dakmar (#55)

She's probably related to half the town, which is related to the other half.

robin  posted on  2008-01-03   20:38:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: robin, Peppa (#58)

She's probably related to half the town, which is related to the other half.

Yeah, but the real question is what is the year of the Pick-up on blocks in the front yard?

Well?

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   20:47:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Original_Intent (#86)

mccain has the longest pro life voting record? WHAT?

lizza76  posted on  2008-01-03   20:49:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: lizza76 (#88)

mccain has the longest pro life voting record? WHAT?

He supports War. What about pro-life confuses you?/s

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   20:50:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Peppa (#89)

Pro-life in the womb ... after 18 anything goes !

noone222  posted on  2008-01-03   20:51:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: noone222 (#93)

Pro-life in the womb ... after 18 anything goes !

Well, I'm not so sure.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   21:00:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Peppa (#110)

McCain doesn't support the right to life for any Muslims or American kids over 18.

noone222  posted on  2008-01-03   21:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: noone222 (#113)

MSNBC is projecting Huckabee as the winner

lizza76  posted on  2008-01-03   21:03:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: lizza76 (#116)

I just hope RP gets 3rd

noone222  posted on  2008-01-03   21:05:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: noone222, all (#121)

You guys watching the paper thingy's?

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   21:06:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Peppa (#123)

looks like a pretty muddled up system to me

lizza76  posted on  2008-01-03   21:08:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: lizza76 (#125)

looks like a pretty muddled up system to me

It's what government healthcare would look like.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   21:14:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Peppa (#133)

It's what government healthcare would look like.

You wanna see what government health care would look like? Imagine going through the TSA screening at an airport...only more thuggish.

orangedog  posted on  2008-01-03   21:25:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: orangedog (#144)

You wanna see what government health care would look like? Imagine going through the TSA screening at an airport...only more thuggish.

Free colonoscopy!

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   21:32:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Peppa, orangedog (#155)

65% reporting - Benito back to 4%, Ron still at 10%

Dukie  posted on  2008-01-03   21:36:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Dukie (#164)

65% reporting - Benito back to 4%, Ron still at 10%

I think there might be more to what went on than we actually know at this point, but, it's been a nail biter.

Idiot talking now... CONSERVATISM WORKS EACH TIME IT'S TRIED? BOT!!!!!!!

Yeah, murder is the key componenet of both party policies.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   21:42:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Peppa (#172)

CONSERVATISM

The term "conservatism" today implies regimentation, order, hammering down every nail standing up, conformity, intolerance of individual thinking, and the state is your friend.

Dukie  posted on  2008-01-03   21:48:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Dukie (#182)

The term "conservatism" today implies regimentation, order, hammering down every nail standing up, conformity, intolerance of individual thinking, and the state is your friend.

God willing we "Paleos" may soon be able to drop the loathsome prefix and put a true conservative face back on the Republican Party.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-03   22:01:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: iconoclast (#201)

Whoever dreamed up the paleo/neo dichotomy ? In my mind there are conservatives and then there are faux-conservatives ( FOXconservatives ?? )

Dukie  posted on  2008-01-03   22:05:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: Dukie (#209)

In my mind there are conservatives and then there are faux-conservatives ( FOXconservatives ?? )

My friend Peppa is opening the bar.

I just poured my second martini. But, I ain't celebrating.

Fourth or fifth placings don't feed the the bulldog.

For an eye opener, Google .... Ron Paul Campaign Manager.

We have the best message but its being lost in fringe ideology.

"Nice" and "healing" and "change" are winning tonight.

We have the nicest and the best change candidate in the race but that is being submerged in ideological fringe non-issues.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-03   22:33:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: iconoclast (#236)

My friend Peppa is opening the bar.

I have indeed.

We have the nicest and the best change candidate in the race but that is being submerged in ideological fringe non-issues.

I'm convinced they could not take instructions on putting a nickel in the gum machine and turning the knob.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   22:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: Peppa (#246)

I'm convinced they could not take instructions on putting a nickel in the gum machine and turning the knob.

I take it "they" are American voters.

With that attitude we will be losing elections far past my demise.

The American people vote with their hearts and their pocketbooks.

The typical voter is not a political junkie. He/she is wary of anger and quick fixes. Right now he/she is disatisfied and wants change. The typical Ron Paul supporter is angry (and I am one of them) and demanding change.

The majority of Americans are resistant to and fearful of radical change (i.e. quick fixes) otherwise we would have gone even further left during the Great Depression.

I'm not suggesting that we should not have pushed for a "revolution", just that we should go hunting with a rifle and not a blunderbuss.

The campaign so far has had as its focus converting America to libertarianism, not winning a national election. The result, if we fail to regroup, will be losing on both counts.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-03   23:34:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#397. To: iconoclast (#327)

The campaign so far has had as its focus converting America to libertarianism, not winning a national election.

Good morning I.

I've been thinking about this comment all night. Do you really think that's what it was?

I was glad RP took the time to educate or re-educate people with the Constitution, and what freedom and liberty actually mean. The government OUT of your beeswax. So, I didn't feel I was being Libertarianized. It wasn't political, it was a freeing message. Drawing in people stuck in the left/right camp that had no place to go.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-04   9:42:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#417. To: Peppa, iconoclast, TwentyTwelve, christine, FormerLurker, All (#397)

The campaign so far has had as its focus converting America to libertarianism, not winning a national election.

Good morning I.

I've been thinking about this comment all night. Do you really think that's what it was?

I was glad RP took the time to educate or re-educate people with the Constitution, and what freedom and liberty actually mean. The government OUT of your beeswax. So, I didn't feel I was being Libertarianized. It wasn't political, it was a freeing message. Drawing in people stuck in the left/right camp that had no place to go.

And it is a good thought, and one with which I agree. The point is not any particular dogma whether it is labeled "libertarian" or otherwise. The message is the same one Thomas Jefferson offered - Liberty and a government bound from mischief with firm constraints.

Anyone not interested in that message is not interested in being free. Whether someone is an Iowa Farmer or a City Slicker the point remains unchanged. Taking money from one person forcibly to give to another is still theft - whether one uses the government to do it or the old fashioned way at gun point.

Either Americans are interested in holding their heads up and walking the walk of the free man or they are willing to trade their liberty for chains and the illusion that they are "being taken care of".

"Life is tough; it's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-04   13:54:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#420. To: Original_Intent (#417)

Either Americans are interested in holding their heads up and walking the walk of the free man or they are willing to trade their liberty for chains and the illusion that they are "being taken care of".

Iowans appear to be "dumbed down".

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-04   13:58:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#422. To: TwentyTwelve (#420)

I think the observation that someone made (I forget who and too lazy to look) that a lot of Iowans still get most of their "Nooze and Infotainment" from the Lamestream Lying Dishonest Sons of Bitches in the controlled media is likely true.

Given that - a lot of what they know to be true ain't.

Thus we get the result we got - and with a little help from the "wonders" of technology.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-04   14:02:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#424. To: Original_Intent (#422)

An astounding number of them showed up at the cauci (plural for 'caucus', right?) last night without having ANY IDEA who to vote for. They made up their mind at the CAUCUS. Geez...

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-04   14:04:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#425. To: who knows what evil (#424)

An astounding number of them showed up at the cauci (plural for 'caucus', right?) last night without having ANY IDEA who to vote for. They made up their mind at the CAUCUS. Geez...

Truly disturbing information.

Wake UP, America - use what brain-cells you have to educate yourselves about these people who (except one) want to rule you.

Lod  posted on  2008-01-04   14:10:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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