My initial hope a couple of weeks ago was that he would do only okay in Iowa, thus throwing off-guard his neocon msm detractors, but would then would astound the pundits with him pulling first or second in New Hampshire and beyond. I hope this is the case.
In any event, Paul has two delegates so far for the convention, and unlike most Republican delegates, are unlikely to change their votes to accommodate any of the other candidates, causing possible gridlock at the convention (it's either Ron Paul or nobody). Stay tuned.
Jan 8 will have me glued to the computer/tv. I'll be off from work and it's also my birthday. A Ron Paul victory will be the best present in years
Happy birthday darling, I wish you a wonderful birthday and a wonderful year
Right now I'm guessing Ron Paul will come in 4th in New Hampshire way too many people have moved to that State for "live free or die" to mean anything to them naturally I hope I am wrong, I would love a Ron Paul win there
altho oddly enough I think South Carolina is looking good for Ron I see him coming in 3rd there and then starting to win primaries...
Love, Palo
I am still convinced this time next year he will be in our Oval Office
If people simply wake up, channelling it towards peaceful revolution would seem to be the best response.
I would tend to agree. At this point they, the NWO/Rothschilds/Rockefellers, have enough of their Police State apparatus in place that an armed insurrection would be very very very bloody. We might well prevail but the cost would likely be staggering. Better if we can do this peacefully. However, they are psychotics and will not give up their death grip willingly.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#462. To: Peppa, palo verde, Cynicom, christine (#458)
We certainly need to think about Plan B.
I want to make sure that when people promise that they're in this for the long haul, that they realize that it may take 9 more years to elect a freedom candidate if RP isn't elected. RP supporters need to make ties with each other that are LASTING. Get names and phone numbers. Exchange Christmas cards. Meet for ball games and barbecues. Get your families together. Start businesses together.
Remember how to do what we're doing now always, and keep talking. Don't let any setbacks slow down the momentum.
Plan B is "Samizdat" - telephone trees of FAX machines and people putting up local dial in BBS's again.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Right now I'm guessing Ron Paul will come in 4th in New Hampshire
This is really up to the Ron Paul campaign. They need to make news now. Call press conferences, which I seldom see happening. Roll out attack ads that will point out that only RON PAUL means change.
I want to make sure that when people promise that they're in this for the long haul, that they realize that it may take 9 more years to elect a freedom candidate if RP isn't elected. RP supporters need to make ties with each other that are LASTING. Get names and phone numbers. Exchange Christmas cards. Meet for ball games and barbecues. Get your families together. Start businesses together.
Remember how to do what we're doing now always, and keep talking. Don't let any setbacks slow down the momentum.
Sage advice. We have developed some momentum and we need to remain cohesive as a group even in the face of temporary set backs.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#467. To: who knows what evil, TwentyTwelve, ALL (#423)
(who knows) Jesus advised His followers to "be wise as serpents"... didn't see too many 'serpents' in the crowd last night. :-(
I am content with how the Iowa voters did they voted for the message I was stunned when the Iowa political journalist gave Huckabee's message, because a lot of it is Ron Paul's Huckabee would never deliver on it Ron Paul will So all Ron has to do is get out his message to ALL
A Huckabee win, would not change a thing government would continue to be run for special interests Only President Ron Paul will represent citizens and their interests we must have him in our Oval Office Love, Palo
I want to make sure that when people promise that they're in this for the long haul, that they realize that it may take 9 more years to elect a freedom candidate if RP isn't elected. RP supporters need to make ties with each other that are LASTING. Get names and phone numbers. Exchange Christmas cards. Meet for ball games and barbecues. Get your families together. Start businesses together.
Remember how to do what we're doing now always, and keep talking. Don't let any setbacks slow down the momentum.
Your right Buckeye. In it for the long haul. Your ideas are excellent.
Remember how to do what we're doing now always, and keep talking. Don't let any setbacks slow down the momentum.
#474. To: palo verde, Peppa, Original_Intent, Cynicom (#470)
I think all of this is way bigger than we are. The important thing for me is to know that as long as I am pressing for freedom some way, some how, I can be satisfied that I'm doing something. Anything is better than being cynical and discouraged.
I actually think this is a normal state of existence for any human being at any point in history. The forces of tyranny come from within our natures, and are in each of us, every day. Without continual defense, liberty will always be easily overcome -- even by the very efforts being used to defend it (as we've seen after 9/11).
(OI to buckeye) Sage advice. We have developed some momentum and we need to remain cohesive as a group even in the face of temporary set backs.
What setback have we had? 20-20 hindsight we could have done better in Iowa if Ron Paul ads had been plastered all over TV 24/7 week before Primary Did we know Iowans vote for the message, not the candidate with the money and the organization Now we know it Iowans are perfect emblem of citizens of USA they too will vote for the message, not the moeny or organization SO WE ARE ALL SET ALL SYSTEMS ARE ON GO!! We just have to make sure all hear Ron Paul's message now Love, Palo
I think all of this is way bigger than we are. The important thing for me is to know that as long as I am pressing for freedom some way, some how, I can be satisfied that I'm doing something. Anything is better than being cynical and discouraged
awww come on, we are going to win this thing there's no way we can lose I love you Palo
let the power elites do PLAN B :) figuring out what they will do when they lose everything :)
Dear Palo - OI and I are talking about learning from our process, which is working. We're optimistic about LONG TERM change even beyond Ron Paul's career because we see that what we're doing is WORKING. That's optimistic. And it's more important than just one man's election.
I do not think that ads would have worked. The public believes that the news media are on their side, on the side of freedom. If they do not hear about Ron Paul on every channel, in each news broadcast, being interviewed and cross-examined by trusted thinkers, they will assume that he is a crank. That wouldn't be changed by expensive ads.
Ron Paul needs to start making his own news, gathering his own intellectuals together, and having them interview him with questions that make sense. This 10% support in the Iowa caucus means that he has a few days to do this.
I actually think this is a normal state of existence for any human being at any point in history. The forces of tyranny come from within our natures, and are in each of us, every day. Without continual defense, liberty will always be easily overcome -- even by the very efforts being used to defend it (as we've seen after 9/11).
only liberty is natural tyranny is upheld by deceit and don't forget truth requires no effort but believing something false, requires constant monumental effort to keep it in place
our citizens will be so happy and relaxed to have truth
the Ron Paul Presidency will be a joy to every citizen Love, Palo
isn't it nice we are posting to each other again I missed you so much smooooch
do not think that ads would have worked. The public believes that the news media are on their side, on the side of freedom. If they do not hear about Ron Paul on every channel, in each news broadcast, being interviewed and cross-examined by trusted thinkers, they will assume that he is a crank. That wouldn't be changed by expensive ads.
Ron Paul needs to start making his own news, gathering his own intellectuals together, and having them interview him with questions that make sense. This 10% support in the Iowa caucus means that he has a few days to do this.
I wish I had some talent for campaigns, but I don't I just know what I learned from the Iowa primary is citizens will vote for Ron Paul if they hear his message so somehow his message has to reach all, and Pronto Love, Palo
But it's deep down inside of us all to be that way. The Age of Aquarius will never come for us. I suspect that the elite believe they can bring it with genetic engineering and pharmaceutical therapy, but this is a very dangerous and unpredictable path to take. I missed you, too!
Ron Paul needs to start making his own news, gathering his own intellectuals together, and having them interview him with questions that make sense. This 10% support in the Iowa caucus means that he has a few days to do this.
O my sweet love it is scheduled for 2012 for whole planet this is why we must put all our eggs in one basket and elect Ron Paul now it determines whether the next 4 years will be heaven or hell for us after that all on planet will be enlightened, there won't be a problem I know you don't see it this way, but it doesn't matter all that matters is we love each other now, and unite our minds now, to make Ron Paul our president now 2012 will come soon enough, and we will see what happens then :) Love, Palo (you already knew I was a new age flake, but you like me anyway :)
after that all on planet will be enlightened, there won't be a problem
LOL, well I don't mind what you think about this as long as you're still willing to keep hope alive in 2013. I plan to be around then to help keep the flame of liberty alive, and I don't expect it to get easier. And if it does, I will be pushing to protect it with everything I can, knowing that human nature will not let it last long if we don't.
So, it's either that or Norman Bates - it's in the eyes.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Ron Paul needs to start making his own news, gathering his own intellectuals together, and having them interview him with questions that make sense. This 10% support in the Iowa caucus means that he has a few days to do this.
Buckeye,
Since we are digging in to our day of reflection here, I came upon a similar thought.
As technologically advanced as the RP volunteer team is and was, it did not seem to reach the old tech crowd (so to speak). So, your point is right. Ron Pauls strategy must include outreach at every level.
And to a point by Robin earlier, some of his messages need to be fine tuned and simplified. Concise and understandable.
Keep praying for miracles, Palo. You seem to have a good connection.
I have been prayng ceaselessly, and I will not stop until he is in our Oval Office this time next year I admit it will take a lot of miracles to put him there But it took a lot of miracles for our country to be born in the first place I am sure appearances were against it when it was first conceived
my latest thought is it is impossble to prevent Ron Paul from winning because there is an ocean of support for him out there and you can't stop an ocean
He is the only one who represents citizens 100,000 people gave money because of this for each one who gave money there are 50 who want Ron Paul to be president just as badly but did not give money (help in other ways) this is a lot of people and there are more each day
we all have to put our minds together tho, about winning elections the politicl class is so expert at this we are so new at it
what happened in Iowa is fine, if we can learn every scrap of information which can be learned from it I wish I was better at this but we have all our minds to join, we can learn from each other together we can be smart even if I can't on my own Love, Palo
Since we are digging in to our day of reflection here, I came upon a similar thought.
As technologically advanced as the RP volunteer team is and was, it did not seem to reach the old tech crowd (so to speak). So, your point is right. Ron Pauls strategy must include outreach at every level.
And to a point by Robin earlier, some of his messages need to be fine tuned and simplified. Concise and understandable.
you are a great baton twirler, Peppa when we have our celebration party on eve of Ron Paul's Inauguration and thank each other for all we did your baton twirling will have first mention kisses, Palo
because there is an ocean of support for him out there
Palo dear, I believe that like I believe in the Age of Aquarius. I don't. That's where you and I come in. We need effective action, not just hopes. If you want to pray for something, pray to help us figure out how to focus the media on Ron Paul effectively and positively, without games, and without impropriety.
The media is controlled by a small number of corporations, and operated by managers/editors/producers who are often CFR members and members of other elite think tanks that have staked their whole programs on preventing a Ron Paul from being elected.
Are we an intelligent enough electorate to deal with this?
It is up to us. I am very serious right now. Are we? Let's find out.