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Title: Live Iowa Caucus Thread
Source: Live CSPAN Republican Caucus Coverage
URL Source: http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cs ... n2v.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx
Published: Jan 3, 2008
Author: Me, I guess
Post Date: 2008-01-03 19:53:13 by Critter
Keywords: None
Views: 15405
Comments: 554

I figured we should have an official caucus thread, no?

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#290. To: Cynicom (#279)

New Hampshire is worth ten Iowas.

We have only days to work it.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: lizza76 (#284)

Doofus Thompson reminds me of the man that cannot find his way to the mens room by himself.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-03   23:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: Peppa (#290)

Pep...

New Hampshire is the man in the booth all by himself.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-03   23:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: Peppa, iconoclast, TwentyTwelve (#278)

C'mon Hon.

Nobody gave Huckabee a snowball's chance a week ago.

Then TwentyTwelve was right.

It was written a month ago!!

More than likely.

No one else could be convincingly promoted to winner in Iowa as it is a Bible Belt State.

Certainly not Ghouliani.

None of the others really.

Romney? A Mormon in Southern Baptist territory? I don't think so. Not even if he gave away his holy underwear.

CFRed was a loser except with the 'bots.

No, I am sure there were some major shenanigans with the vote.

It will be interesting to see what the Poll Watchers and Vote Canvassers have to report in the morning. I am sure there will be indications of widespread fraud, but the people controlling the enforcement arm are part of the fraud operation, and the Lamestream Media will go 24/7 saying "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, etc., ...

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: Peppa (#286)

Hey hey, none of that talk. And another thing...so what Paul isn't in the NH debates. The debates are rigged so he gets what 15 seconds to explain his position? Fugg Faux. We'll have a better time discussing Paul's platform right here.

"He who votes decides nothing; he who counts the votes decides everything." - Josef Stalin

angle  posted on  2008-01-03   23:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: Cynicom (#292)

Paul's post-caucus (sigh) speech was pretty inspirational...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-03   23:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: who knows what evil (#289)

McCain and Thompson should be battling over a checker board in a nursing home somewhere instead of participating in a presidential primary.

They should be in the "Old Fools Home'...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-03   23:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: Cynicom, Peppa (#292)

Pep...

New Hampshire is the man in the booth all by himself.

Pee Wee Herman?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: who knows what evil (#281)

sales on Christmas items last week; like they normally would. Why? They are holding them in inventory instead to sell next November; to save on shipping and inventory costs. Sucks if your job is manufacturing and shipping Christmas decorations...I'm sure they are NOT the only ones thinking like this...

Hmm.

I'm set for Christmas decorations for 300 years. I see a business opportunity here.

I also have a tub of lights. Gold!!!!

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: Peppa (#288)

Gold closed at 864.599

Mmmmmmmmm.

Now thats good news!

Yes, it is. My modest inheritance, mostly quality Jewelry from my collector Mother, has more than tripled in value.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: Peppa (#290)

Show you the value of Iowas caucus, Giuliani received votes and did not even show up, because he knows Iowa is not that important, but still some dummies voted for him.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-03   23:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: Cynicom (#283)

Iowa was open to manipulation. New Hampshire is not.

Is it fair to say that the media "chatter" was nervous anyway?

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: who knows what evil (#285)

Florida? That's not overseas, either.

Nope.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Cynicom (#283)

Iowa was open to manipulation. New Hampshire is not.

Thanks, Cynicom. This is going to be a very long campaign.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-03   23:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: Cynicom (#292)

Pep...

New Hampshire is the man in the booth all by himself.

If it's electronic, there are 'others' involved. But I completely understand the differentiation from I-dunno-wa.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: Cynicom (#291)

Doofus Thompson reminds me of the man that cannot find his way to the mens room by himself.

I could almost bet money that he has Parkinson's!!!!!!! Watched him a few times this week and he was shaking all over!!!

Killing One Person Is Murder...Killing 100,000 is Foreign Policy!

lizza76  posted on  2008-01-03   23:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: Critter, who knows what evil (#282)

I took a ship from San Francisco to Hawa'ii, and returned a year later on a plane. Both had windows. It was DEFINITELY overseas.

If that is the criterion, I visit long island by ferry from Bridgeport, CT once in a while...

I used to ride the Ferry from Seattle to Bremerton does that count too?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: Peppa (#301)

Paul himself was not optimistic on Iowa. Take a reasonable showing and go with it.

New Hampshire will go a long ways to setting Pauls future effort.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-03   23:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: Original_Intent (#293)

It will be interesting to see what the Poll Watchers and Vote Canvassers have to report in the morning. I am sure there will be indications of widespread fraud, but the people controlling the enforcement arm are part of the fraud operation, and the Lamestream Media will go 24/7 saying "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes, "It's a Conspiracy Theory", it's sour grapes

I'll put the coffee on.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: Original_Intent (#306)

Puget Sound? Puh-leeze.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-03   23:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: Peppa, Cynicom (#301)

Iowa was open to manipulation. New Hampshire is not.

Is it fair to say that the media "chatter" was nervous anyway?

I would say yes. I would also bet, based on their nervous reactions, that their internal polling showed much more than ten percent.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: angle (#294)

Hey hey, none of that talk. And another thing...so what Paul isn't in the NH debates. The debates are rigged so he gets what 15 seconds to explain his position? Fugg Faux. We'll have a better time discussing Paul's platform right here.

Angle, you are right.

We need a Primary win to get him on the ballot.

We have a lot of work to do.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: Peppa (#286)

hese I-dunn-O-wans, have done quite enough dirty talk for me for the night.

Is that a no? hehehe

FORMER 4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru

Critter  posted on  2008-01-03   23:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: Peppa (#308)

Paul actually WON Jefferson County (the smart Iowans, apparently); but the totals haven't been tallied yet. (It was around 400...won't help him catch McCain/Thompson, but might boot him to 11%.) A couple of other counties out that way missing, as well.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-03   23:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: Original_Intent (#297)

Pee Wee Herman?

!!!!!

Not that kind of booth. LOL!

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: Peppa, christine, zipporah, yertle turtle (#237)

Don't forget about us when you leave.

I fully intend to be the first Freedom4um to post from Fiji, and maybe Australia.

I'll be spending just a few hours at Nadi (Fiji) on the way in to Brisbane the Gold Coast, but on the out bound trip I'll have six nights in Fiji.

About a one month trip.

From what my research indicates, freedom4um needs to buy a few acres of land in Fiji and set up a freedom colony.

Yertle Turtle knows how to live in tree stumps and has an excellent retirement plan so I suggest he be the leader of the colony.

I will post my experiences from the other hemisphere, I do have alot of family that I have treated very well in the US when they have visited, so I think I will be treated nicely.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-01-03   23:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: Peppa (#308)

I'll put the coffee on.

I like mine Black - and strong enough to corrode a spoon.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: Original_Intent (#299)

Yes, it is. My modest inheritance, mostly quality Jewelry from my collector Mother, has more than tripled in value.

Excellent!

Now, if you guys can just pimp the price of Bradford Collectors plates, I'll be a hundred-aire.

;)

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: Peppa (#314)

Pee Wee Herman?

!!!!!

Not that kind of booth. LOL!

Thank you. Somebody finally caught it. I was beginning to lose hope.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: tom007, Ferret Mike (#315)

Yertle Turtle knows how to live in tree stumps and has an excellent retirement plan so I suggest he be the leader of the colony.

I'd like to nominate 4ums other rodent for the job.

FORMER 4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru

Critter  posted on  2008-01-03   23:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: tom007 (#315)

Have a wonderful experience.

"He who votes decides nothing; he who counts the votes decides everything." - Josef Stalin

angle  posted on  2008-01-03   23:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: Cynicom (#300)

Show you the value of Iowas caucus, Giuliani received votes and did not even show up, because he knows Iowa is not that important, but still some dummies voted for him.

Cyni,

I have to think about this whole caucus thing. It absolutely makes no sense and never did, but it exists.

I am thinking that Iowa is not really a state of 'our' union. There has to be an actual REASON, why such a goofy charade, exists.

Maybe they are a colony of DC?

Strange, but onward.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: Peppa (#317)

Now, if you guys can just pimp the price of Bradford Collectors plates, I'll be a hundred-aire.

;)

The Bradford Exchange

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-03   23:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: Peppa, critter, dakmar, Original_Intent, ALL! (#321)

One should remember that Bush has a 70 PER CENT approval rating in Iowa...that is WAY out of sync with the rest (normal) part of the country. For Paul to finish just 2% out of THIRD in a state like that is actually quite the accomplishment!

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-03   23:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: Cynicom (#307)

Paul himself was not optimistic on Iowa. Take a reasonable showing and go with it.

New Hampshire will go a long ways to setting Pauls future effort.

I thought he would truly rattle the house in Iowa.

I didn't realize it was a nut-house.

But he showed up, as did our wonderful young 'Vacation in Iowa' kids, and God Bless them, they tried.

I'm not comfortable painting Iowans or any state with a broad brush. But, a bat would be fine.

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: Peppa, Cynicom (#324)

I thought he would truly rattle the house in Iowa.

I think he told the Iowans at the straw poll that he wasn't for corn subsidies. What we're seeing here could be a reaction to that.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-03   23:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: Critter (#312)

Is that a no? hehehe

Yesssssss. LOL!

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: Peppa (#246)

I'm convinced they could not take instructions on putting a nickel in the gum machine and turning the knob.

I take it "they" are American voters.

With that attitude we will be losing elections far past my demise.

The American people vote with their hearts and their pocketbooks.

The typical voter is not a political junkie. He/she is wary of anger and quick fixes. Right now he/she is disatisfied and wants change. The typical Ron Paul supporter is angry (and I am one of them) and demanding change.

The majority of Americans are resistant to and fearful of radical change (i.e. quick fixes) otherwise we would have gone even further left during the Great Depression.

I'm not suggesting that we should not have pushed for a "revolution", just that we should go hunting with a rifle and not a blunderbuss.

The campaign so far has had as its focus converting America to libertarianism, not winning a national election. The result, if we fail to regroup, will be losing on both counts.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-03   23:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: angle (#320)

Have a wonderful experience.

Thanks angle, I don't really like flying, But Australia...

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-01-03   23:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: who knows what evil (#313)

Paul actually WON Jefferson County (the smart Iowans, apparently); but the totals haven't been tallied yet. (It was around 400...won't help him catch McCain/Thompson, but might boot him to 11%.) A couple of other counties out that way missing, as well.

Good Lord. They must have the internet(s).

11% is better than 10%.

I studied up on that./s ;)

This is all good news WKWE.. Thanks!!!

Peppa  posted on  2008-01-03   23:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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