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Title: Live Iowa Caucus Thread
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Live CSPAN Republican Caucus Coverage
URL Source: http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cs ... n2v.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx
Published: Jan 3, 2008
Author: Me, I guess
Post Date: 2008-01-03 19:53:13 by Critter
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Views: 14494
Comments: 554
I figured we should have an official caucus thread, no? Click here to view live CSPAN coverage
Poster Comment: Let the discussion begin!
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#346. To: longnose gar (#330)
FORMER Wead Predicted: Huckabee's Iowa Win, But Now Losses Ahead
The Bible Belt is not limited to the Confederacy. And the Coach lovvvvvvvvved me. I am a killer Pass Rusher. Not quite as good against the run, but good enough to keep the other team honest. And I scored a Touchdown once playing Center - the ball was tipped and I recovered it in the End Zone by sliding in on my back and trapping it against my chest.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!! "The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
With that attitude we will be losing elections far past my demise. The American people vote with their hearts and their pocketbooks. The typical voter is not a political junkie. He/she is wary of anger and quick fixes. Right now he/she is disatisfied and wants change. The typical Ron Paul supporter is angry (and I am one of them) and demanding change. The majority of Americans are resistant to and fearful of radical change (i.e. quick fixes) otherwise we would have gone even further left during the Great Depression. I'm not suggesting that we should not have pushed for a "revolution", just that we should go hunting with a rifle and not a blunderbuss. The campaign so far has had as its focus converting America to libertarianism, not winning a national election. The result, if we fail to regroup, will be losing on both counts. Icon, I may have mentioned I was in a 'mood'. I didn't mean to offend or discourage anyone. Just a little reactionary personal hissy fit. It does not take away my resolve to do all that I can. You make some excellent points though. !!!! I don't agree with you on one of them right now, but, it's food for thought, and I will give it that. We won't fail to regroup. I think all of this discussion makes us all stronger. Afterall, we are in this together. Good night I, and everybody!
That usually shuts him up. lol
FORMER "It is not the Federal Government's job to tell Farmers what crops to grow, and that is exactly what a subsidy does - it locks farmers into raising those crops which attract the highest subsidies out of someone else's pocket. It is unfair to the farmer and to the person whose pocket is being picked for the subsidy, and it is NOT one of the Federal Government's Constitutionally defined duties. I do favor lower taxes which do not penalize farmers for being successful." You're a great "straight man". That's sounds right out of Ron's (political science) play book. Try this one on for size for a "contendah": "I do not believe corn based ethanol is a good economic answer to the energy crisis (big Huckabee smile) but if I were your Congressman, I would most certainly forward your wishes to the floor in the form of a bill. (Another big Huckabee smile).
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
Good job.
Good night, dear heart. It's late and I have to get up early. But, as I so often say, such is the life of us political junkies.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
It really depends on what you are trying to accomplish. There is a difference between a political answer and an honest answer. Ron Paul is what he is, and I am what I am. The reason I like him, and was a supporter long before this campaign was even hinted at, is that willingness to stand on principle and tell it the way it is. Farm subsidies are not a favor to the farmer. It is nothing more than welfare farming. That suckers can't, or don't, get it is why they are suckers and will remain chattels. As long as you play to their ignorance they will remain ignorant. Of course one can't put is so bluntly, but you can only go so far and remain true to your principles.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Drop the campaign a line and ask if you can help with a few suggestions.
laughing....
I bombed tonight, big time. I am disgraced. :( Dumb corn growing, cow molesting Iowan dimwits...
FORMER The Bible Belt is not limited to the Confederacy. This is a decidedly Christian nation. All vote seekers need to keep that in mind. Having said that, I further assert that your placement of Iowa in the Bible belt is a first for me. And the Coach lovvvvvvvvved me. I am a killer Pass Rusher. Not quite as good against the run, but good enough to keep the other team honest. And I scored a Touchdown once playing Center - the ball was tipped and I recovered it in the End Zone by sliding in on my back and trapping it against my chest. Ah, memories! ;-) They can't take those away from us.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
I thought that was what I was doing.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
never underestimate the power of the votescam. when do we start shooting the bastards. that's what i want to know.
There's the suggestion that they actually do: Mind Control, MK ULTRA and A Course in Miracles (Oprah's 'christian' course she will be preaching about). Link goes to: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=6974
Let's get started! We can go out like Bonnie and Clyde. hehehe
FORMER meet me in DC? ;)
You just defined the Ron Paul Revolution. I'm a burned-out Republican tired of being lied to by a GOP that is going to hell two steps behind the Demonrats.
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
Oops, buckeye, I read your post too quickly. By golly, maybe I will.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
Try going straight to www.ronpaul2008.com and using their contact form: www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/form
I'm really glad to see Hitlery get pwned by Obama and Edwards. I wonder if she's throwing ash trays at her campaign staff?? ;-)
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
Make sure to be clear that there is: 1. A lesson to be learned (from the corn incident).
I likes it. Yessirrrrrrrrrrreeee!
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I'm trying to draw the distinction between a schoolmarm approach and an honest but non hectoring approach. A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down ... Mary Poppins. I don't disagree with you on principles OI, but what good did preaching to the choir ever do?
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
"Remember when families were small farmers? We can do that again with your help."
OK, first I have to find a 1934 Ford to use for the getaway.
FORMER I share your pain but I yearn for maximum impact.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
They can't take those away from us. No. I can still see it in my minds eye - it was like everything was in slow motion - the Receiver and the Back went up fighting for the ball and it got tipped up, I was free from my block, and I don't know to this day how fast I moved through those ten yards to the End Zone but I did, but I could also see that I could not catch it before it hit the ground and that the only way was to get under it. The next thing you know there I am on my back under the ball and clutching it in to my chest. It is not something I'll ever forget - it is not everyday that the Center turns into a Receiver and scores a Touchdown. Pefectly legal too - once the ball was tipped by a defensive player it was a live ball - and my actions were as legal as Church on Sunday in the Bible Belt.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Point granted, and you are most correct - in that making someone wrong is not going to win their support - in most cases it'll just make'em stubborn. I think buckeye has a point too - in that you could phrase eliminating subsidies as a positive - which I was trying to do. I know though, realistically, that eliminating farm subsidies in the "Farm Belt" is about as popular as a Skunk at a Square Dance. However, all the subsidies do is reward farmers for an inefficient use of their time and land. I know farmers do not like to change crops, but if over production exists then, failing subsidies, they are forced to learn a new crop - or more than one.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
You must have read "How To Win Friends And Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, a classic to this day in people skills.
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
Truthfully - I learned it from a friend, but experience has taught me that it is true.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Banned Commercial - Bill Clinton Voodoo doll I don't know if she is, but I with someone had a voodoo doll of her like Bill's in the above commercial.
That is hillarious!
This website reports a total of only 15,822 votes for the entire state of Iowa. Did they lose the other 200,000 or so votes that were predicted by the "huge voter turnout" that was reported?
Sweet!
I second 'entertaining', as in 'inconsequencial'.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Hee Hee. Great memory! I've got a few I'll try to share with you one of these days. Some exciting (a few, embarrassing). ;-)
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
So much for the 'RP enthuzed supporters' hijacking the GOP. 2 lessons to learn so far: - the pro-war, pro-torture, pro-big gov't party will NOT nominated the anti-all-of-the-above candidate. Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
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4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru
#347. To: Original_Intent (#341)
#348. To: iconoclast (#345)
#349. To: Critter (#346)
#350. To: iconoclast, all (#327)
I take it "they" are American voters.
#351. To: Original_Intent (#349)
4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru
#352. To: Original_Intent (#341)
A good response could have been something along the lines of:
#353. To: Critter (#351)
That usually shuts him up. lol
#354. To: Peppa (#350)
Good night I, and everybody!
#355. To: iconoclast (#352)
#356. To: iconoclast (#335)
A campaign is not a Political Science lecture.
#357. To: Critter (#351)
FORMER 4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru
#358. To: christine (#357)
laughing....
4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru
#359. To: Original_Intent (#348)
#360. To: buckeye (#356)
Drop the campaign a line and ask if you can help with a few suggestions.
#361. To: Critter (#358)
#362. To: iconoclast (#359)
This is a decidedly Christian nation. All vote seekers need to keep that in mind.
#363. To: christine (#361)
when do we start shooting the bastards. that's what i want to know.
4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru
#364. To: Critter (#363)
#365. To: iconoclast (#327)
The typical Ron Paul supporter is angry (and I am one of them) and demanding change.
#366. To: buckeye (#356)
Drop the campaign a line and ask if you can help with a few suggestions.
#367. To: iconoclast (#360)
(Edited)
I thought that was what I was doing.
#368. To: Critter (#0)
#369. To: iconoclast (#366)
By golly, maybe I will.
2. They need to start planning/staffing ahead.
#370. To: Critter (#351)
That usually shuts him up. lol
#371. To: Original_Intent (#355)
It really depends on what you are trying to accomplish. There is a difference between a political answer and an honest answer.
#372. To: iconoclast (#371)
#373. To: christine (#364)
meet me in DC? ;)
4um's Resident RP Prediction Guru
#374. To: X-15 (#365)
You just defined the Ron Paul Revolution. I'm a burned-out Republican tired of being lied to by a GOP that is going to hell two steps behind the Demonrats.
#375. To: iconoclast (#359)
Ah, memories! ;-)
#376. To: iconoclast (#371)
I'm trying to draw the distinction between a schoolmarm approach and an honest but non hectoring approach.
#377. To: Original_Intent (#376)
in that making someone wrong is not going to win their support - in most cases it'll just make'em stubborn.
#378. To: X-15 (#377)
#379. To: X-15 (#368)
"I'm really glad to see Hitlery get pwned by Obama and Edwards. I wonder if she's throwing ash trays at her campaign staff??"
#380. To: Ferret Mike, All (#379)
#381. To: lizza76, All (#1)
http://www.libertybroadcastnetwork.org/VoteTotals.aspx
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#382. To: Ferret Mike (#379)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#383. To: Mekons4 (#36)
This is without doubt the most entertaining primary season ever.
#384. To: Original_Intent (#375)
No. I can still see it in my minds eye - it was like everything was in slow motion
#385. To: scrapper2 (#73)
Frightening isn't it? I thought the bad weather might keep the geezers away...I mean I was hoping that the senior citizens would stay home where it was safe.
- a huge, centuries-old mature political mafia organization, such as the GOP, is not 'a tool' just waiting to be used by anyone who wishes to take advantage of it.
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