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Title: Live Thread - The New Hampshire ABC News Debates - 2 Parties, 1 Night
Source: ABC NEWS
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/politics
Published: Jan 5, 2008
Author: ABC NEWS
Post Date: 2008-01-05 19:00:15 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1829
Comments: 121

Pop the corn and spike the punch. Let the fun begin.

The GOP is up first.

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#37. To: Brian S (#0)

We are in deep trouble here. Republican fat cats are all for more and more war, refuse to deal with illegal immigration, and are interested in expanding federal influence into every aspect of our lives. Did you all hear Huckabee's talk on what to do about health care? I couldn't make sense out of it, but he apparently wants to use the Federal government to implement PREEMPTIVE CARE.

PREEMPTIVE CARE is like PREEMPTIVE WAR in terms of civil liberties.

Immigration is the worst of all. Huckabee was tough, but not believable. Romney is tough, but unbelievable. The others are just edging around the problem, defending the status quo.

Now that I'm watching the Dem side of the debate, I'm sure that we're trapped between a rock and a hard place.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   22:07:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

a. Did you all hear Huckabee's talk on what to do about health care? I couldn't make sense out of it, but he apparently wants to use the Federal government to implement PREEMPTIVE CARE. PREEMPTIVE CARE is like PREEMPTIVE WAR in terms of civil liberties.

b. Immigration is the worst of all. Huckabee was tough, but not believable. Romney is tough, but unbelievable. The others are just edging around the problem, defending the status quo.

a. Not only is pre-emptive care useless -if you're born with the cancer gene or acquire heart disease, no annual physicals or free flu shots are going to prevent the onset of very very serious life threatening diseases. You'll just pay higher taxes so the illegals and unmarried pregnant ladies can have free prenatal care. And additionally you'll get into the larger pool of free preventative care folks and all of you will be in line to see the same small number of gate-keeper GP's - them for their free prenatal vitamins and you to get referred to an oncologist to get that lump checked out and the then you get segued into another queue for the oncologist. Pre-emptive health care is great if you are earning less than 3X the poverty level ( illegals automatically qualify) and are very young or are in excellent health.

What Romney and the Huckster and McCain were avoiding saying was that the middle class, under their "everybody has health insurance" plans, get the pleasure of paying higher taxes to get less health care. The only ones who win are under these politicians' plans are the lower economic group and illegals - they contribute little income tax and have nothing to lose and everything to gain. But because there are greater numbers of voters in the lower economic groups, these pols are of course appealing to the masses for their votes, not to the tax-payers who are going to get it in the neck for this nonsense. Think of Huckster's plan as an HMO for all at PPO prices for you.

What's sickening is that none of these political punks mentioned tort reform in conjunction with their grandiose health care plans - most of them apart from Dr. Paul and McCrazy are lawyers, that's why. McCain is a professional veteran and the best friend of Joe Lieberman. I don't know what actual academic credentials that idiot has.

b. The only 2 people who were pro-American in their illegal immigrants position were Dr. Paul and Fred Thompson. The others were dancing and flip-flopping all over the place. When JudyJulie - he of 3 or 4 wives - started slinging the "compassionate" crap, and the other losers were nodding along with him, I knew Americans would be screwed bigtime under anyone of those sold out jerks.

I hope the NH folks saw through the lies and smoke screens of the GOP hucksters. I can't bear to watch the Dems' debate. It will be more of we'll give you all this and gov't should deliver that...and all I'll be seeing is $ flying out of my wallet as they speak.

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