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Title: Live Thread - The New Hampshire ABC News Debates - 2 Parties, 1 Night
Source: ABC NEWS
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/politics
Published: Jan 5, 2008
Author: ABC NEWS
Post Date: 2008-01-05 19:00:15 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1872
Comments: 121

Pop the corn and spike the punch. Let the fun begin.

The GOP is up first.

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#78. To: Critter (#77) (Edited)

Browse around at mypsace facebook and see what you find.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   23:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: scrapper2, Peppa, buckeye (#74)
(Edited)

I just read an AP view of the GOP debate. It is a rather long article and Paul got only this concerning the debate...

"Paul, mounting a quixotic campaign, stuck to his insistence that the war should end."

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-05   23:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeye (#68)

Speaking of rude...how about McCain's comment "we're going to miss you tomorrow night, Ron..."? *sshole. I can't imagine what kind of person would vote for McCain.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-05   23:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: who knows what evil (#80)

Speaking of rude...how about McCain's comment "we're going to miss you tomorrow night, Ron..."?

McCain reveals himself as one of the cruelest people in politics, as far as I can tell.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   23:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: tom007 (#71)

(Palo) When push comes to shove, it is the content of what people say which matters, no?

(Tom) Well you and I would like to believe that - but maybe not.
The emotive content unfortunately seems to move the political masses

(Palo) I noticed Ron Paul wrote notes, while others talked

(Tom) I did not notice that -
He very well could be getting info to bomb the others with their own words in the next debates.
He has done that in the past.

Ron does seem to be methodical, and that is a good thing.

O Tom I love your post, altho I don't know why?
It just seems so real and down to earth

Ya know, the beauty of Ron Paul is, he is not charismatic
so it is all about content
and I think this is great

Love, Palo

I am very interested in rest of your post, I did not know that

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-05   23:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: who knows what evil (#80)

McLame is rude and uncouth, as President he would make Bush look good.

I will guarantee you this, regardless which one of those people becomes the candidate, they will have the gall and arrogance to demand Paul and his following support them. Count on it.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-05   23:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: palo verde, tom007 (#82)

Ya know, the beauty of Ron Paul is, he is not charismatic

He's very charismatic to patriots. Most Americans just want to live their lives. He needs a way to reach them. At least he knows not to make them afraid.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   23:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: who knows what evil, buckeye, ALL (#80)

Speaking of rude...how about McCain's comment
"we're going to miss you tomorrow night, Ron..."?
*sshole.
I can't imagine what kind of person would vote for McCain.

McCain is a worthless individual
guess who is aaying he will vote for McCain?
my husband!
I offered to register him GOP on the computer so he could vote in AZ primary for Ron Paul
and he said "I'm thinking of voting for McCain"
I don't get McCain's appeal at all
but as I said to my husband, "free will, free thought, free vote, vote for whoever you want"

but when I said "I am putting up Ron Paul bumper sticker on truck and 2nd hand car"
and he said he will put up McCain sticker, I said "I will never ride in the truck then"

he only said it, because he knew I would have huge reaction!
lol maybe it is fun for a husband to have a wife who is passionate Ron Paul supporter,
you can always get her to "have a fit" :)

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-05   23:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Cynicom (#83)

they will have the gall and arrogance to demand Paul and his following support them. Count on it.

Yes they will, and I strongly believe they will get the "your number one" finger.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-01-05   23:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Cynicom (#83)

I will guarantee you this, regardless which one of those people becomes the candidate,
they will have the gall and arrogance to demand Paul and his following support them.
Count on it.

Excuse me!
When Ron Paul is the candidate, these jerks will have to decide if they will support him

LOL
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-05   23:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: palo verde (#85)

guess who is aaying he will vote for McCain?

I know what's wrong. Your husband is jealous because you focus so much attention on Ron Paul! He's getting your goat in the best way he knows how.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   23:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: buckeye (#84)

(Palo) Ya know, the beauty of Ron Paul is, he is not charismatic

(buckeye) He's very charismatic to patriots. Most Americans just want to live their lives. He needs a way to reach them. At least he knows not to make them afraid.

what an exquisite post
yes for patriots, Ron Paul is perfect in every way

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-05   23:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: tom007 (#86)

Two things come to mind.

McLame and his rude mouth trying to demean Paul.

McLame in your face, "we will stay in Iraq forever".

That should open some peoples eyes that the man is unstable.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-05   23:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Cynicom (#83)

McLame is rude and uncouth, as President he would make Bush look good.

I agree with you. Also McCain comes across as insincere and frankly not too bright. He almost asks to be tripped up. His yarn about how safe Baghdad seemed to him was an invitation for the media to prove him to be a bold-faced liar. What an a** - I can't imagine why Arizonans keep re-electing that ignorant midget back to the Senate over and over again. It must be the Vietnam War POW sacrifice for God, country schtick.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-05   23:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: palo verde (#87)

When Ron Paul is the candidate, these jerks will have to decide if they will support him

Palo they will not.

One only has to review Giuliani to find he jumped ship before and supported Mario Cuomo.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-05   23:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: scrapper2 (#91)

Scrap...

Have you ever seen the video of the bomb or missile from McLames aircraft skidding across the carrier deck????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-05   23:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: buckeye (#88)

I know what's wrong.
Your husband is jealous because you focus so much attention on Ron Paul!
He's getting your goat in the best way he knows how.

you are so psychological
I never thought of that

LOL do you think he was disappointed I didn't hit the roof last night
when he told me he was thinking of voting for John McCain

altho between you and me, I thoought to myself, "I won't bother registering him GOP
"if he's going to vote for McCain :)"

LOL tomorrow is the deadline to register GOP in Arizona
I guess he won't be able to vote for McCain
he will have to drive me to vote for Ron Paul
(I am New Yorker, I haven't learned to drive yet
I am bad girl

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-05   23:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: palo verde, Cynicom (#89)

yes for patriots, Ron Paul is perfect in every way

He also needs to get elected. I say keep trying to awaken the patriot in everyone, but also LEAD IN REAL TIME. He's not used to that, but he can do it. He's used to propelling a movement, not leading it.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   23:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: palo verde (#94)

LOL tomorrow is the deadline to register GOP in Arizona

Can we trust you, palo?

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   23:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Cynicom (#92)

(Palo) When Ron Paul is the candidate, these jerks will have to decide if they will support him

(Cynicom) Palo they will not.

you are right on this one
I don't thnk they will support Ron Paul when he is the candidate
Altho there seemed to be nice warmth between Ron Paul and Fred Thompson during debate
a friendly vibe there
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-05   23:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: buckeye (#96)

(Palo) LOL tomorrow is the deadline to register GOP in Arizona

(Buckeye) Can we trust you, palo?

you read my mind
it is a dilemma
I can tell him tomorrow is the deadline, and offer to register him on computer
if I thnk he will change his mind and vote for Ron Paul at the primary
But if I think he will vote for John McCain
I won't mention tomorrow is the deadline

On the other hand respect for free vote, means I should tell him

I think I will go with not mentioning it

I am getting mixed messages, he is overjoyed when Ron Paul does well in the primary
but he said "me and Eric talked at the pool, Eric likes McCain too
"and Eric said 'ideal ticket is McCain and Condi Rice' "

I kept my mouth shut!!!!

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-05   23:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: palo verde (#98)

Elections '08

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-05   23:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: palo verde (#98)

I think I will go with not mentioning it

Actually, I was hoping you'd do the right thing if you promised already. You'll have time to work on changing his mind later. Also, it's the democratic thing to do. Freedom will be upheld, even if in a negative way. And so will domestic tranquility, which involves the pursuit of happiness and so forth.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-06   0:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: buckeye (#95)

(Palo) yes for patriots, Ron Paul is perfect in every way

(buckeye) Ron Paul also needs to get elected.
I say keep trying to awaken the patriot in everyone, but also LEAD IN REAL TIME.
He's not used to that, but he can do it.
He's used to propelling a movement, not leading it.

hahaha I gave this a lot of thought
Ron Paul is not the leader of the Ron Paul revolution
it is a spontaneous grassroots movement, which was looking for a leader
he suits
we are the leaders of it
he is our goal, to get him in the White House
we will
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   0:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: palo verde (#101)

we are the leaders of it

We can't be the Executive branch. It wouldn't work. Yes, if I send President Ron Paul electronic mail, I hope someone on his staff reads it and thinks about it. But I think it's a different role.

Ron Paul to get elected needs to indicate that he can push as well as pull. He's used to pulling.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-06   0:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: palo verde (#85)

but when I said "I am putting up Ron Paul bumper sticker on truck and 2nd hand car"

It;s about time you covered up those bush stickers. Finally!!!!

LACUMO  posted on  2008-01-06   0:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeye (#100)

if he registers tomorrow he is eligible to vote in February primary
OK maybe I will tell him tomorrow is the last day to register
maybe he will change his mind and vote for Ron Paul
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   0:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Cynicom (#90)

That should open some peoples eyes that the man is unstable.

We can sure hope.

He is unstable, but a gung ho supporter of the MIC, so they are going to love him for the $$$$$ he can get us all in debt for.

SICK SICK SICK/

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-01-06   0:08:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: buckeye (#102)

Ron Paul to get elected needs to indicate that he can push as well as pull.
He's used to pulling.

my sweet love, Ron Paul is doing just fine
he will be our president this time next year
we are lucky to be part of this revolution
and we are doing good job, I think
I love you
Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   0:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Cynicom (#93)

Have you ever seen the video of the bomb or missile from McLames aircraft skidding across the carrier deck????

No I haven't.

Hmmm...is McCain's military service record in question?

Earlier today another poster made a comment that McCain weighed more after he was released from the POW camp than when he was first captured. How very odd.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-06   0:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: buckeye (#102)

(Palo) we are the leaders of it

(Buckeye) We can't be the Executive branch. It wouldn't work

I was not clear
let me try again

this is not a movement with a leader and followers
Ron Paul is not our leader, we are not his followers

who is leading the Ron Paul Revolution?
it is all his supporters
that is what makes this all so interesting and so real and so timely
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   0:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: palo verde (#108)

Ron Paul is not our leader, we are not his followers

But he's running for President. He says he wants to be our "leader." I say "sure." So do you. But those people without little patriot flames glowing in their eyes are saying "oh, why?"

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-06   0:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: scrapper2 (#107)

McCain was very lucky
he was in the middle of bombing Hanoi when his jet crashed into the lake in the middle of Hanoi
the police had to hold the people back, they were enraged, he had been bombing their homes
someone fished him out fo the lake, and the police took him away

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   0:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: buckeye, ALL (#109)

we're gonna have to find out what happened in the Wyoming primary
and figure out what that all means
I guess I'll call it a night now
it's been great posting with you buckeye, I really appreciate it
sweet dreams
Love, Palo

sweet dreams to all posters and lurkers on forum
All my love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   0:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: scrapper2 (#107)

No I haven't.

Hmmm...is McCain's military service record in question?

Scrap...

Some time today I will PM you about McLame and the military.

I will tell you where to look and what to look for so that you may make up your own mind. I hazard a guess that you are not alone in lacking knowledge of McLames background.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-06   3:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Critter (#73)

I don't think RP looked very confident last night. His demeanor is low key and his being a gentleman amongst arrogance may cost him unless he's able to get in the fray.

I hate to be critical of the ONLY worthy candidate ... but if he doesn't step it up a couple of notches he's doomed.

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money ." --- Josiah Stamp

noone222  posted on  2008-01-06   6:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Dakmar (#15)

McCain should let Chuck Norris campaign for him.

Yeah, for least likely to be cured mental patient.

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money ." --- Josiah Stamp

noone222  posted on  2008-01-06   6:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Brian S (#0)

The debate seemed to focus on NATIONAL I.D. and Terrorist Threats ... and the CFR was well represented.

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money ." --- Josiah Stamp

noone222  posted on  2008-01-06   6:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: noone222, Brian S, Dakmar, Cynicom, iconoclast, sneakypete (#115) (Edited)

The debate seemed to focus on NATIONAL I.D. and Terrorist Threats ... and the CFR was well represented.

It was even more pronounced on the Dem side when they quoted an expert that gave some huge percentage of a chance (30% in the next 10 years was it?) that an American city would be nuked by stateless terrorists.

And Hillary gave her commitment to retaliating against a state that had harbored the terrorists, as if that would be clear.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-06   11:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: buckeye, noone222, Robin, Peppa, lodwick, all (#116)

(noone222) The debate seemed to focus on NATIONAL I.D. and Terrorist Threats ... and the CFR was well represented.

I hope Ron Paul spoke well on these topics
it is the reason we want him to be President
was he able to say his ideas on this?
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   12:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: who knows what evil (#80)

Speaking of rude...how about McCain's comment "we're going to miss you tomorrow night, Ron..."? *sshole. I can't imagine what kind of person would vote for McCain.

I've come to expect comments like that from McCain. I think there's a photo of him next to the entry for the word "petty" in illustrated dictionaries.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-01-06   15:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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