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Title: Review of January 5th, 2008 ABC GOP Debate
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Published: Jan 5, 2008
Author: buckeye
Post Date: 2008-01-05 21:57:08 by buckeye
Keywords: Ron Paul
Views: 4756
Comments: 103

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Quick synopsis

Illegal Immigration

This is my main reason for posting this thread.

Ron Paul's demeanor

This was a fair debate with an open format.

Ron Paul's victory

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#1. To: FOH, christine, iconoclast, Cynicom, who knows what evil, lodwick (#0)

ping

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-05   22:01:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeye (#1)

Paul was the only one who didn't make a complete ass of himself.

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-05   22:04:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: who knows what evil (#3)

Paul was the only one who didn't make a complete ass of himself.

yeah, the rest of them just didn't seem like very nice people. I'm not saying you should support someone because you'd like to have a beer with him, but by the same token, you probably shouldn't support someone who you'd rather see get beaten up in a bar fight.

kiki  posted on  2008-01-05   23:13:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: kiki, buckeye, All (#7)

the rest of them just didn't seem like very nice people

The Republican establishment is not made up of "very nice people".

I have been musing over what shape Dr. Paul's game plan may take as the 2008 race goes forward.

I do not see evidence of RP's throwing much of the treasure chest around, and I have come to feel strongly that he will declare third party (unless someone on a white horse charges in, and I don't know who the hell that would be).

Perhaps it is just wishful thinking on my part, but I believe the good Doctor may/has come to the conclusion that the most realistic step toward return to a Constitution based government may be first putting a stake through the heart of the faux "conservative" party in the form of a huge and painful and undeniable rejection of the treasonists in November.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-06   9:16:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: iconoclast, BrentFromCanada, rowdee, buckeye, robin, Cynicom, christine, All (#14)

but I believe the good Doctor may/has come to the conclusion that the most realistic step toward return to a Constitution based government may be first putting a stake through the heart of the faux "conservative" party

It used to be that there were lots of paleocons in the GOP - the real conservatives. I think Dr. Paul speaks to them as well as the libertarians as well as to some Dems. I'm thinking that not only does there need to be a new GOP party but America truly needs a viable 3rd Party alternative. Most other countries in the Western World have at least 3 parties or more. Canada's NDP party has become a powerhouse in some provinces and recently has become the Prime Minister maker or breaker with the Liberals. The 2 party system is un-natural and dangerous ( too easy to bribe and control and to make under the table deals with one another) for a nation to keep for so many years as we have. That's why we're in the bind where we are.

If Dr. Paul went the 3rd party route - makes no difference to me ( the media hairdo's will try to spin it as RP going back on his word...screw 'em).

BUT if Dr. Paul does do 3rd party, I hope he doesn't have some weird new age inclusive name like reform or liberty lovers or whatever. He has always described himself as an old fashioned conservative, a GOP'er like what the party used to be and the new party should refer to those values in its name without chasing off the libertarians and centrist Dems who like traditional values. Constitutional Party has already been taken. Any suggestions?

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-06   13:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: scrapper2 (#58)

I hope he doesn't have some weird new age inclusive name like reform or liberty lovers or whatever.

Agreed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-06   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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