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Title: Georgia Supreme Court Considers the Limits of the Laws of Banishment and Physics
Source: jonathanturley.org
URL Source: http://jonathanturley.org/2008/01/0 ... aws-of-banishment-and-physics/
Published: Jan 8, 2008
Author: Jonathan Turley
Post Date: 2008-01-08 11:27:07 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 72
Comments: 3

Georgia Supreme Court Considers the Limits of the Laws of Banishment and Physics

Published 1, January 8, 2008

The Georgia Supreme Court is considering a basic law of physics: is a man is banished from the entire state except for a small county in a distant section: how can he get there and, if he does, how can he live. This is the intriguing question presented by a lower court’s sentence that Gregory Mac Terry is banished from all but one of the state’s 159 counties. Banishment has become the rage with state judges but there remains a question of constitutionality, if not impossibility.

The physics of banishment someone from virtually all of the state prompted Georgia Justice Harris Hines to ask “If you’re banished to one central county, how do you get there?” he asked. His colleague, Justice Robert Benham tied to help by suggesting that he fly but no one knew if an airport was available.

The banishment was ordered because of Terry’s obsession with his wife. Douglas Superior Court Judge David Emerson ordered the banishment to assure the wife that see would not have to worry seeing Terry as she moved around the state.

The banishment, however, proved to be a problem when Terry was released from prison in 2001 for a work-release problem. Officials then released that there was no where, particularly in Fulton County, where they could send him. They were forced to give bring him back to prison and given him a new 2009 release date.

Terry was confined to a rural rural Toombs County, which comprises 367 square miles in southeast Georgia. But he does not know anyone in the county, has no job there, and has no place to live there. Once there, he cannot leave the place. That seems less of a parole condition as it is a new form of punishment. The motivation of Emerson is clearly not in question. However, the means is excessive and other alternatives might be available such as voluntary acceptance of electronic monitoring etc.

The sentence raises serious questions of the constitutionality of banishments. As noted in this column, judges are increasingly using creative or caesar like punishment raising such concerns.

For the Georgia story, click here.

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This kind of punishment has been used in the past for sex offenders. This case shows how, once that sort of precedent is set, the mistreatment is later extended to other groups of offenders.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-08   11:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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As noted in this column, judges are increasingly using creative or caesar like punishment raising such concerns.

(from the above embedded link - I thought there were state sanctioned guidelines for punishments)

Most shaming punishments were abandoned as either ineffective or unconstitutional. Modern law values the consistent imposition of punishment and frowns upon judges who personally tailor new forms of punishment for particular defendants. What is most dangerous about this recent trend is that, in the name of reforming citizens, judges will impose their own quirky brand of justice by ordering citizens to parade, worship or even marry. Consider a few examples, all from state or local courts:

* In Kentucky, Judge Michael Caperton recently allowed drug and alcohol offenders to skip drug counseling if they agreed to go to 10 church services. A pastor, like a divinely ordained probation officer, signs off on the completion of this obligation.

* In Texas in 2003, Judge Buddie Hahn gave an abusive father a choice between spending 30 nights in jail or 30 nights sleeping in the doghouse where prosecutors alleged the man had forced his 11-year-old stepson to sleep.

* In Georgia last year, Judge Sidney Nation suspended almost all of Brenton Jay Raffensperger’s seven-year sentence for cocaine possession and driving under the influence in exchange for his promise to buy a casket and keep it in his home to remind him of the costs of drug addiction.

* In Ohio, a municipal judge, Michael Cicconetti, cut a 120-day jail sentence down to 45 days for two teens who, on Christmas Eve 2002, had defaced a statue of Jesus they stole from a church’s nativity scene. In exchange, the pair had to deliver a new statue to the church and march through town with a donkey and a sign reading “Sorry for the Jackass Offense.”

* In North Carolina in 2002, Judge James Honeycutt ordered four young offenders who broke into a school and did $60,000 in damage to wear signs around their necks in public that read “I AM A JUVENILE CRIMINAL.” One, a 14-year-old girl, appealed and Honeycutt was reversed.

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robin  posted on  2008-01-08   12:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#0) (Edited)

i just wonder where they plan on going with this little Hegelian Dialectic

The "US" is supposed to govern 10 square miles known as the District of Columbia. Their authority is supposed to end there. Through the fraudulent 14th Amendment, they have extended themselves into all 50 states. One cannot "live" in the "United States" because it is a fiction; it is not a country; it is a CORPORATION. www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm If one doesn't want to belong to the antiChrist Corporation known as the "United States" http://www.gemworld.com/US-Symbol-1dol.html , and the antiChrist Corporation claims ownership of all the land mass known as America, nevermind where Gregory Mac Terry is going to live; the bigger question is where are all those Americans, particularly those who heed the call to COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE going to live? Oh.....I get it....Terry had to be brought back to prison since there was nowhere else for him to go..... now we know what all those concentration camps are for. And why the plan must be for roadblocks, and for all Americans to have internal passports. papersplease.org/wp/category/freedom-to-travel/page/2/

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-08   13:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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