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Title: NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary
Source: MSNBC
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Published: Jan 8, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-01-08 20:15:12 by Brian S
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Views: 4923
Comments: 341

NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary

Real-time Race Results: Updated January 8, 2008 - 8:11 PM (all times Eastern Standard) Precincts Reporting 11%
Candidate	Votes	Vote %	Delegates	Projected Winner
McCain	7,896	37%	0	Winner
Romney	5,976	28%	0
Huckabee	2,591	12%	0
Giuliani	1,885	9%	0
Paul	1,812	9%	0
Thompson	305	1%	0
Hunter	126	1%	0

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Trust me, and many of my friends, on this one.

This is the best part of the Ron Paul campaign for me: to see so many people expressing their commitment to restoring freedom in America. The fires of liberty are being reignited all over the country. More fires will be lit from those, and so on. At least many people understand what has been lost, and want it back more than anything else.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-08   21:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Very little but I didn't want to be so blunt and not give some hope.

Ron Paul will never be President of these United States.

Well, so far only 2 states have spoken. If there can be a big difference between Iowa and NH with the Huckster and McBomb, then there is room for some hope that RP can do much better in other states. Obviously we were hoping better from the LFoD state which is also supposed to be the beneficiary of the free state project, but....

And then there's the message that may succeed if the messenger does not. Did 10% get the message loud and clear?

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-01-08   21:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Clinton / Obama thing has really narrowed of the past 20 minutes. But even if she loses, she's close enough to stay in the race.

New Hampshire Democratic Primary

Precincts Reporting: 163 Of 301 54%

Winner Candidate Votes Vote %

Hillary Clinton 55,346 37%

Barack Obama 51,712 36%

John Edwards 23,624 17%

Bill Richardson 6,509 5%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-08   21:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There are a sh*tload of "what country can we move to" threads popping up at various RP forums...

I'm coming to you live from Ecuador, for what it's worth.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-01-08   21:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

we can hash out the reasons for this and that til the cows come home. all we need to know, and it's certain, is that the people's votes and wishes will never be known. the sooner we all accept that, the better. remember that the majority of americans are anti-war but it matters not.

having said that, like Brian, i'll be happy if y'all are able to shove this post down my throat.

christine  posted on  2008-01-08   22:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, so far only 2 states have spoken.
If there can be a big difference between Iowa and NH with the Huckster and McBomb,
then there is room for some hope that RP can do much better in other states.

Obviously we were hoping better from the LFoD state which is also supposed to be the beneficiary of the free state project, but....

good post!
Love, Palo

Rasmussen had Ron Paul polling at 14 percent in NH
and Rasmmusen is only off by 1 or 2 points, and always lower than what the candidate gets in the election
and it's impossible a Ron Paul supporter would not come out to vote

there may be a little "irregularity" in these election results...

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I could have bought an AR-15 for $600

If you don't own one, you better get one. That and about 1000 rounds, for now.

Tag Line For Rent    (M, 48, NY)

Critter  posted on  2008-01-08   22:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

we can hash out the reasons for this and that til the cows come home. all we need to know, and it's certain, is that the people's votes and wishes will never be known. the sooner we all accept that, the better. remember that the majority of americans are anti-war but it matters not.

There are two alternatives, one, revolution with blood in the streets, or two, there is serfdom.

With that being said, which is acceptable???

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-08   22:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Precincts Reporting: 180 Of 301 59%

Winner Candidate Votes Vote %

X John McCain 48,694 38%

Mitt Romney 41,239 31%

Mike Huckabee 14,955 11%

Rudy Giuliani 11,399 9%

Ron Paul 10,360 8%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-08   22:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you're looking to defend against burgulars & thieves, a 12 gauge shotgun is the choice. However it won't do much against the kind who wear state supplied body armor.

Dukie  posted on  2008-01-08   22:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." --- Sen. John McCain June 1998 Republican fund-raiser

He really said that? LMFAO!

Maybe he isn't 100% bad after all.

Tag Line For Rent    (M, 48, NY)

Critter  posted on  2008-01-08   22:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

New Hampshire Democratic Primary

Precincts Reporting: 186 Of 301 61%

Winner Candidate Votes Vote %

Hillary Clinton 63,040 36%

Barack Obama 58,666 36%

John Edwards 26,773 17%

Bill Richardson 7,633 5%

Dennis Kucinich 2,298 1%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-08   22:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww. I have that sinking feeling again.

Tag Line For Rent    (M, 48, NY)

Critter  posted on  2008-01-08   22:13:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(Palo) Rasmussen had Ron Paul polling at 14 percent in NH
and Rasmmusen is only off by 1 or 2 points,
and always lower than what the candidate gets in the election And it's impossible a Ron Paul supporter would not come out to vote

There may be a little "irregularity" in these election results...

Ron Paul should have come in at 16 per cent
instead he came in at 10 per cent
I'm not going to make a fuss about it
but I think Ron Paul's real showing is better than what was reported...

If this is true, it is something to keep in our minds
that Ron Paul may have actually done better than reported, it shows his result in different light...

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If RP can't get even a 3rd place showing in New fucking Hampshire against that gaggle of pandering assholes then this country is screwed beyond any hope of redemption.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2008-01-08   22:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There are a sh*tload of "what country can we move to" threads popping up at various RP forums...

The only country I'm aware of that meets my standards for gun ownership is Switzerland.

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-01-08   22:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He's at 8% now, half of what Rasmussen polled him at.

Tag Line For Rent    (M, 48, NY)

Critter  posted on  2008-01-08   22:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

However it won't do much against the kind who wear state supplied body armor.

Aim low.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2008-01-08   22:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There are two alternatives, one, revolution with blood in the streets, or two, there is serfdom.

With that being said, which is acceptable???

I am completely non violent, so there must be a third way
The way of Gandhi and Martin Luther King
Love, Palo

but I have not given up on the election yet
only 2 States have reported results, and their results are opposite to each other

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If RP can't get even a 3rd place showing in New fucking Hampshire against that gaggle of pandering assholes then this country is screwed beyond any hope of redemption.

I totally agree.

It was nice while it lasted, and it's rather sad that there are so few of us that loved it enough to try to keep it alive.

Looks like the fluoridation, mercury in vaccines, neurotoxins in food via additives and pesticides, along with constant brain-washing by the "media" worked.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   22:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The only country I'm aware of that meets my standards for gun ownership is Switzerland.

And they severely restrict immigration. I know because I already checked.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   22:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

and what is very interesting is that Romney, the fair haired boy of the GOP
the pic of the GOP establishment
has not won either State

this election is up for grabs
and I think Ron Paul will take it at the end

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Looks like the fluoridation, mercury in vaccines, neurotoxins in food via additives and pesticides, along with constant brain-washing by the "media" worked.

Some of us must be immune to that shit.

And all the young people coming out in favor of Ron Paul suggest that maybe the problem is something else.

I think it is fraud, pure and simple.

Tag Line For Rent    (M, 48, NY)

Critter  posted on  2008-01-08   22:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Fox News Editing Ron Paul out of AP News Stories

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-08   22:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you're looking to defend against burgulars & thieves, a 12 gauge shotgun is the choice.

In my particular situation, I think a .22 semi-auto rifle that holds ten or so rounds in the chamber would be a better choice. A few of my friends were extolling the range of the .22 round, but I'm not looking for distance, I'm only wanting to stop burglars and the occasional vandal.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-08   22:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think it is fraud, pure and simple.

That could be. It could also be a flock of old goobers that swallow every lie they hear on TV, and simply vote for whomever their local newspaper editor tells them to.

One thing about McCain though is that he was actually having live Town Hall meetings across the state, unlike Ron Paul who didn't really have any as far as I know, except for the one on Sunday night in Manchester.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   22:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He's at 8% now, half of what Rasmussen polled him at.

I've been following all of Rasmussen's polls like a hawk for past 8 years
he is honest and accurate
and has never been off by more than 2 percent, the person has done 2 percent better than the poll

something is a little fishy here...

I won't make a fuss about it, but for true understanding,
it's important for us to know how Ron Paul actually did, no?

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This country was birthed by a bloody revolution, a revolution fought by the few, that brought freedom for all.

We are guilty of letting it slip away, perfectly willing to accept the yoke of oppression that one day will be replaced by the hang mans noose. History is a stern teacher, one that speaks of evil men that have wanted to control the world.

This total control now perhaps is within their grasp.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-08   22:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I read a story recently that indicates that situation has changed quite a bit...can't recall the source. I remember being surprised when I read it...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-08   22:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In my particular situation, I think a .22 semi-auto rifle that holds ten or so rounds in the chamber would be a better choice.

Anything is better than nothing, but determined individuals can take a few .22 rounds easily, as it simply feels like a punch from what I hear. A 12 gauge full of buckshot feels a bit different than that I believe, and so does a .40 caliber round or higher.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   22:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There is a town in west NH where Paul didn't get any votes at all...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-01-08   22:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Fox News Editing Ron Paul out of AP News Stories

Well we pretty much knew that the NWO wasn't going to let him win. At least we HAD some hope...

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   22:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

having said that, like Brian, i'll be happy if y'all are able to shove this post down my throat.

Sorry, Chrissy. Brian called it so he has first dibs.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-01-08   22:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I ain't a firin' no 12 gauge evern't again, you hear me boss?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-08   22:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Correction...

Vast was the first to wave the French white flag.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-08   22:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And all the young people coming out in favor of Ron Paul suggest that maybe the problem is something else.

I think it is fraud, pure and simple.

I think you are right on this one
because Rasmussen has always been accurate in the past
I've checked all his polling against the actual results
he is only off by 1 or 2 percent, and as I said the person did better than the poll

it is having demoralizing effect on many of Ron Paul supporters
and will "justify" leaving him out of debates and no news coverage, etc
(which may be the reason for it)

all I can do is pray South Carolina is honest in its reporting of the vote

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I ain't a firin' no 12 gauge evern't again, you hear me boss?

It's not so bad if you use the reduced recoil shells. Handguns are better at home defense in my opinion, as they have more maneuverability and have more than adequate stopping power if using a good round such as .40 or .45 caliber.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   22:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Precincts Reporting: 185 Of 301 61%

Winner Candidate Votes Vote %

X John McCain 50,684 37%

Mitt Romney 42,817 31%

Mike Huckabee 15,765 12%

Rudy Giuliani 11,818 9%

Ron Paul 10,864 8%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-08   22:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Puzzling, indeed........was not Bob Smith the senator from NH, who was a very outspoken advocate for the POW/MIA families...........those families that mclame pushed aside as being of no importance because there were trade deals to be made with viet name, etc.

How they could go from sending a senator like that to picking a sicko like mclame for prez is beyond most people, I'd venture to say.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-01-08   22:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I know our country was birthed by bloody revolution
but Martin Luther King and Gandhi pioneered the new way
the non violent way
and I think that is the better way now
Love, Palo

I only speak for myself, let others do as they will...

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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