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Title: NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary
Source: MSNBC
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Published: Jan 8, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-01-08 20:15:12 by Brian S
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Views: 4954
Comments: 341

NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary

Real-time Race Results: Updated January 8, 2008 - 8:11 PM (all times Eastern Standard) Precincts Reporting 11%
Candidate	Votes	Vote %	Delegates	Projected Winner
McCain	7,896	37%	0	Winner
Romney	5,976	28%	0
Huckabee	2,591	12%	0
Giuliani	1,885	9%	0
Paul	1,812	9%	0
Thompson	305	1%	0
Hunter	126	1%	0

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Really odd, the NH voters picked a preacher and assorted war mongers. That does not compute.

In reality, most people voted Democrat and will NOT vote for a Republican. Hillary and Obama have been working the state for quite some time, and their message fools those that don't know all the facts.

If the media hadn't marginalized RP the outcome may have been different, but we have what we have.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   23:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Good. When the chance for voter fraud is there, it could make sizable percentage points of difference.
In the major election, RP will have to win by a margin.
So yes, we do have work to do. But we knew that.

We knew they would do voter fraud on us from the get-go
they did it in New Hampshire tonight
big deal! their purpose was to destroy us
Hahaha we will come back stronger
Love, Palo

It is very intelligent what you said,
in the general election we will have to win by huge margin to overcome massive vote fraud
they will fix that election 10 points against us
but we will win anyway
I love you

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   23:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Memries,
Like the corners of my mind
Misty water-colored memories
Of the way we were
Scattered pictures,
Of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were
Can it be that it was all so simple then?
Or has time re-written every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again
Tell me, would we? could we?
Memries, may be beautiful and yet
Whats too painful to remember
We simply choose to forget
So its the laughter
We will remember
Whenever we remember...
The way we were...
The way we were...

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-08   23:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Paul has problems in that no one could answer a straight forward email but I received two canned emails in one day looking for money.

I received a response from a campaign volunteer that was about as useless as what you got.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(Cynicom) Paul does have people around him that are not too adept at picking up all support that is available and I made that fact known. No reply.

(FormerLurker) They neglected to put their ads on Boston TV stations (until the last minute at most), and focused on local NH stations that almost nobody watches.

Smart post, Former Lurker
I hope the Ron Paul campaign gets sharper
this is the big time
Love, Palo

PS, thanks for writing to Ron Paul campaign, Cynicom,
they need to pick up all the support out there for Ron Paul

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I was rather frank in my email, reminding them that Paul speaks all the time of the "grassroots" but not TO them. I reminded them the choice was theirs. Money can be cut off in a wink.

Isolating the candidate from his ONLY source of money is self defeating.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Good! You did good!
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Title: Paul gets 8% of the NH vote - what a landslide for this front runner!!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-09   0:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Paul has problems in that no one could answer a straight forward email but I received two canned emails in one day looking for money.

he's not spending his money intelligently
they haven't figured out that money alone doesn't do anything
they must get out their message to all
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So its the laughter We will remember Whenever we remember... The way we were... The way we were...

Nice one...

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-01-09   0:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

palo...

Perhaps you watched Paul on Leno last nite.

Leno asked the question of who would Paul pick of the others for his VP...That to me seemed to be a planted question by Paul and very interesting. I just cannot figure out what was the purpose.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I was rather frank in my email, reminding them that Paul speaks all the time of the "grassroots" but not TO them.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, although many of the other candidates had local town hall meetings in NH, I'm not aware of any that Ron Paul's campaign organized, except for the one last Sunday in a small TV studio.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Really odd, the NH voters picked a preacher and assorted war mongers. That does not compute.

i don't believe for one moment that they did.

christine  posted on  2008-01-09   0:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Title: Paul gets 8% of the NH vote - what a landslide for this front runner!!

Well the shills certainly seem pretty proud of themselves. They've done a good job at guaranteeing Hillary's coronation, or Obama's landslide victory.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i don't believe for one moment that they did.

The McCain vote isn't surprising, but the Huckabee vote doesn't compute.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well the shills certainly seem pretty proud of themselves. They've done a good job at guaranteeing Hillary's coronation, or Obama's landslide victory.

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-09   0:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It is gross contradiction that a preacher does well and two war mongers do very well, that is in both pub and dem.

How can a segment vote for a man of peace and a war monger that wants to invade Iran or whoever is available. To me it is not intelligent thinking by all of them.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

received a response from a campaign volunteer that was about as useless as what you got.

maybe you should threaten to stop donating to them, that will get their attention
they're overly thrilled about the money coming in, and aren't doing their campaign right
because your ideas for them are GOOD!!! they need to hear them and pay attention to them!!
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks. I've loved that song for a long time.

I may not care for BS's politics but she is/was a helluva singer and it was a great song.

I wonder what Mrs. Robinson is up to these days? Posting on Rimjobistan?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-09   0:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, although many of the other candidates had local town hall meetings in NH, I'm not aware of any that Ron Paul's campaign organized, except for the one last Sunday in a small TV studio.

good point!!

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

He doesn't suck up to the Israeli Lobby.

I think it should be clear by now that Goldi-Putz cares more about the Israeli Police State than a free American Republic.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-09   0:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.

You did excellent, you have to mention money to get their full attention
because they are overly excited about the money

and what they need are good ideas!
and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

I bet she's pretty proud of herself as well..

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

palo...

Perhaps you watched Paul on Leno last nite.

Leno asked the question of who would Paul pick of the others for his VP...
That to me seemed to be a planted question by Paul and very interesting.
I just cannot figure out what was the purpose.

I meant to watch Leno last night, I don't know what happened

IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP

How did Ron answer that question?

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them

It'll be much more difficult to do nationwide what they could have done in the small state of NH.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

palo..

It was a well worded NO. If the question was not planted, Leno did well on his own.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i don't believe for one moment that they did.

Many years ago, it was foretold by economists that a massive generation gap would emerge. It is happening now. The youth know that we older people are going to cost them given our present system of entitlements. This is a form of slavery they see coming, and they are right to vote against it. Older people should recognize its inherent unfairness, as well. This may need to be spoken to reach the generation that voted for Mccain and Clinton in NH.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-09   0:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

I bet she's pretty proud of herself as well..

It was good for Israel.

Fuck the stupid Goys. /Hasbarfa

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-09   0:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP

How did Ron answer that question?

RP was polite - as I recall he said the current crop of GOP candidates would have to change their positions considerably but if any of them became more in sync with RP's positions he'd give those candidates consideration - RP said for example he tried to educate Rudy about foreign policy issues by recommending various books but thusfar Rudy did not seem to available himself of RP's reading list so RP did not seem hopeful about the others either.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-09   0:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My thinking...

Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party.

That automatically defeats the republican warmonger.

I would much rather be one of 30 million voters for Paul in a third party race than sit at home doing nothing.

Perot garnered 20 million and Paul can do better.

Before vast waves the white flag whining Paul wont win, I wont to say no kidding, how observant of you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

so my best response is to come back stronger, no? Of course it is palo, but with the machines in SC more than likely rigged, I won't hold my breath for good results there..

we'll see
I was so idealistic and naive about New Hampshire and look what they did
voter fraud on Ron Paul
ya know the original AP report about keeping Ron Paul out of the Fox debate
said it was the decision of the NH GOP
notice how 2 days before the Fox debate, the NH GOP took that "principled stand" to disavow the debate
I bet the New Hampshire GOP had figured out how to work the fraud
and then could "afford" to be so "noble"
"Let Ron Pual be in the debate" they said

South Carolina may be honest, just as Iowa was
I pray so

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If I were Paul I would have me a bright young man as VP and announce it NOW. Someone that is known and good at public speaking and turn him lose.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Leno asked the question of who would Paul pick of the others for his VP...That to me seemed to be a planted question by Paul and very interesting. I just cannot figure out what was the purpose.

I saw it and I thought Leno asked if he'd be willing to be VP if asked by another candidate. I don't remember Leno asking who Ron would choose.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-01-09   0:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Many years ago, it was foretold by economists that a massive generation gap would emerge. It is happening now. The youth know that we older people are going to cost them given our present system of entitlements. This is a form of slavery they see coming, and they are right to vote against it. Older people should recognize its inherent unfairness, as well. This may need to be spoken to reach the generation that voted for Mccain and Clinton in NH.

And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll. I'm not sure if the poll was reflected in how the votes went tonight in NH college towns.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-09   0:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Neil

You have it backward.

I suspect Paul asked him to ask it, maybe not.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party.

It's good. It must happen.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-09   0:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll.

I'm stunned.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-09   0:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With such an announcement I suspect we would see a major shift in the pub candidates toward Paul, trying to CYA.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(Palo) IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP
How did Ron answer that question?

(scrapper2) RP was polite - as I recall he said the current crop of GOP candidates would have to change their positions considerably
but if any of them became more in sync with RP's positions he'd give those candidates consideration -

RP said for example he tried to educate Rudy about foreign policy issues by recommending various books but thusfar Rudy did not seem to available himself of RP's reading list so RP did not seem hopeful about the others either.

O Scrapper, you are the best
thank you very much for this post
Ya gotta hand it to Ron Paul
what a lovely gentleman he is, and how perfectly he answered that question
He is the ideal combo, perfectly honest, plus perfect gentleman
we really are backing a lovely man for President
Love, Palo

GO Ron GO!!!

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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