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Title: NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary
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Published: Jan 8, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-01-08 20:15:12 by Brian S
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NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary Real-time Race Results: Updated January 8, 2008 - 8:11 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 11% Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner McCain 7,896 37% 0 Winner Romney 5,976 28% 0 Huckabee 2,591 12% 0 Giuliani 1,885 9% 0 Paul 1,812 9% 0 Thompson 305 1% 0 Hunter 126 1% 0
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#254. To: christine (#252)
The McCain vote isn't surprising, but the Huckabee vote doesn't compute.
.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.
It is gross contradiction that a preacher does well and two war mongers do very well, that is in both pub and dem. How can a segment vote for a man of peace and a war monger that wants to invade Iran or whoever is available. To me it is not intelligent thinking by all of them.
maybe you should threaten to stop donating to them, that will get their attention
Thanks. I've loved that song for a long time. I may not care for BS's politics but she is/was a helluva singer and it was a great song. I wonder what Mrs. Robinson is up to these days? Posting on Rimjobistan?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.
good point!! Love, Palo
He doesn't suck up to the Israeli Lobby. I think it should be clear by now that Goldi-Putz cares more about the Israeli Police State than a free American Republic.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
You did excellent, you have to mention money to get their full attention and what they need are good ideas!
I bet she's pretty proud of herself as well..
Perhaps you watched Paul on Leno last nite. Leno asked the question of who would Paul pick of the others for his VP... I meant to watch Leno last night, I don't know what happened IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP How did Ron answer that question?
It'll be much more difficult to do nationwide what they could have done in the small state of NH.
palo.. It was a well worded NO. If the question was not planted, Leno did well on his own.
Many years ago, it was foretold by economists that a massive generation gap would emerge. It is happening now. The youth know that we older people are going to cost them given our present system of entitlements. This is a form of slavery they see coming, and they are right to vote against it. Older people should recognize its inherent unfairness, as well. This may need to be spoken to reach the generation that voted for Mccain and Clinton in NH.
I bet she's pretty proud of herself as well.. It was good for Israel. Fuck the stupid Goys. /Hasbarfa
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
How did Ron answer that question? RP was polite - as I recall he said the current crop of GOP candidates would have to change their positions considerably but if any of them became more in sync with RP's positions he'd give those candidates consideration - RP said for example he tried to educate Rudy about foreign policy issues by recommending various books but thusfar Rudy did not seem to available himself of RP's reading list so RP did not seem hopeful about the others either.
My thinking... Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party. That automatically defeats the republican warmonger. I would much rather be one of 30 million voters for Paul in a third party race than sit at home doing nothing. Perot garnered 20 million and Paul can do better. Before vast waves the white flag whining Paul wont win, I wont to say no kidding, how observant of you.
so my best response is to come back stronger, no? Of course it is palo, but with the machines in SC more than likely rigged, I won't hold my breath for good results there.. we'll see South Carolina may be honest, just as Iowa was Love, Palo
If I were Paul I would have me a bright young man as VP and announce it NOW. Someone that is known and good at public speaking and turn him lose.
I saw it and I thought Leno asked if he'd be willing to be VP if asked by another candidate. I don't remember Leno asking who Ron would choose.
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And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll. I'm not sure if the poll was reflected in how the votes went tonight in NH college towns.
Neil You have it backward. I suspect Paul asked him to ask it, maybe not.
It's good. It must happen.
I'm stunned.
With such an announcement I suspect we would see a major shift in the pub candidates toward Paul, trying to CYA.
(scrapper2) RP was polite - as I recall he said the current crop of GOP candidates would have to change their positions considerably RP said for example he tried to educate Rudy about foreign policy issues by recommending various books but thusfar Rudy did not seem to available himself of RP's reading list so RP did not seem hopeful about the others either. O Scrapper, you are the best GO Ron GO!!!
another brilliant and practical idea of yours!
Scrap is younger than me with a better memory.
It is a waste of time trying to penetrate the firewall that the slicks have around Paul. You note Hillary did bad in Iowas and immediately brought in new faces.
(Buckeye) I'm stunned. Rudy is socially liberal here in Tucson, most Tucsonans go to the community college and I know at the U of Arizona, my Ron Paul Meet Up group had very successful Love, Palo
It is like fighting with one hand tied behind our backs I think the money will stop gushing in to them, if they don't use it to better avail To Ron Paul campaign people, WAKE UP!!
It might be a bit too early to expect that RP has received any firm committments from people he has contacted. I did not mind the way he handled that question - he made a few jokes - and I think it went over well. But the part that troubled me in the Leno interview was when Jay asked RP if he were forced to vote for a Dem candidate who would he choose based on positions that were close to his own and RP said Dennis Kucinich. And RP then quickly qualified his choice by saying Kucinich and he were both anti-Iraq War but they were very far apart on domestic policies. However, I'm not sure if anyone kept listening to RP's qualification ( except for devoted RP supporters like me) after they heard him pick Kucinich as being closest to him in policy positions - it was the end of the interview with a lead into a commercial break. If I were RP, I would have just said I don't see any Dem candidate that reflects my constitutionally based positions. But for RP to pick a statistical last place loser of a Dem candidate ie. Kucinich, who is also so left wing he almost falls off the charts was most unfortunate. In fact, if I were an undecided NH independent and heard RP basically aligning himself with a) a loser and b) a far left socialist - I would have been very turned off. Americans like winners generally speaking and NH itself is not a hotbed of socialism. That particular response did not help RP at all imo.
this post made me giggle :)
thank you for your informative post on this Scrapper
usually its a stinky candidate with a great campaign team but let's be honest what matters is the candidate
Dennis voted against the Patriot Act like Ron Paul
palo verde: thank you for your informative post on this Scrapper this one I see the opposite of you, I think Ron Paul answered that question perfectly God I love that guy he's so perfect in every way Love, Palo Maybe I'm being to overly sensitive to political perceptions that result from something that might not have much significence one way or another. RP appeals to a broad cross section of supporters. So maybe there are some supporters who think Kucinch is not so bad. However, I'm more of a paleo-conservative with a sprinkle of libertarian and consequently I projected how I would interpret RP's choice - which was to have my hair stand on end. A guy like Kucinich - a bigtime nanny statist who believes in redistribution of wealth so everyone can be equally miserable -is the absolute worst candidate in the 2 parties combined from my perspective. Kucinich stands for everything I loathe. His anti-Iraq War position is the exception but even that does not make up for all of Kucinich's negatives.
I think that was possible before 9/11. Even Bush ran on no national building.
I'm stunned. Indeed. I am equally stunned by Hillary's amazing 180 over Obama. Furthermore, I'm stunned by the massive "turnout" of Democrat voters. Both occurring in a state generally considered to be more conservative than Iowa. I quite seriously believe that many of these Hillary voters were switchover Republicrats who believe Hillary is the most beatable in the final go round. These are the masses of voters who live and die by casting their lesser-of-two-evils vote every four years. I call them the Superbowl voters who treat politics as some kind of mindless our "team" must win at any cost woodenheads. American politics has become so full of such inanities that we face tremendous obstacles in our crusade for a return to a sane political arena. Oh well, only fools thought this was going to be easy.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
Right. It's time for a change of tactics for the RP campaign, though. What they're doing isn't working, and $20 million will burn in a few weeks if they react the wrong way.
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You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#255. To: FormerLurker, FOH, Original_Intent (#253)
Well the shills certainly seem pretty proud of themselves. They've done a good job at guaranteeing Hillary's coronation, or Obama's landslide victory.
#256. To: christine (#252)
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#257. To: FormerLurker (#243)
received a response from a campaign volunteer that was about as useless as what you got.
they're overly thrilled about the money coming in, and aren't doing their campaign right
because your ideas for them are GOOD!!! they need to hear them and pay attention to them!!
Love, Palo
#258. To: Vitamin Z (#249)
#259. To: palo verde (#257)
#260. To: FormerLurker (#251)
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, although many of the other candidates had local town hall meetings in NH, I'm not aware of any that Ron Paul's campaign organized, except for the one last Sunday in a small TV studio.
#261. To: TwentyTwelve (#255)
.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.
#262. To: Cynicom, FormerLurker, ALL (#259)
I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.
because they are overly excited about the money
and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them
Love, Palo
#263. To: TwentyTwelve, FOH, Original_Intent (#255)
.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#264. To: Cynicom (#250)
palo...
That to me seemed to be a planted question by Paul and very interesting.
I just cannot figure out what was the purpose.
#265. To: palo verde, Cynicom (#262)
and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#266. To: palo verde (#264)
#267. To: christine, Cynicom (#252)
i don't believe for one moment that they did.
#268. To: FormerLurker (#263)
.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.
#269. To: palo verde (#264)
IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP
#270. To: FormerLurker (#265)
#271. To: FormerLurker (#228)
I was so idealistic and naive about New Hampshire and look what they did
voter fraud on Ron Paul
ya know the original AP report about keeping Ron Paul out of the Fox debate
said it was the decision of the NH GOP
notice how 2 days before the Fox debate, the NH GOP took that "principled stand" to disavow the debate
I bet the New Hampshire GOP had figured out how to work the fraud
and then could "afford" to be so "noble"
"Let Ron Pual be in the debate" they said
I pray so
#272. To: scrapper2 (#269)
#273. To: Cynicom (#250)
Leno asked the question of who would Paul pick of the others for his VP...That to me seemed to be a planted question by Paul and very interesting. I just cannot figure out what was the purpose.
#274. To: buckeye (#267)
Many years ago, it was foretold by economists that a massive generation gap would emerge. It is happening now. The youth know that we older people are going to cost them given our present system of entitlements. This is a form of slavery they see coming, and they are right to vote against it. Older people should recognize its inherent unfairness, as well. This may need to be spoken to reach the generation that voted for Mccain and Clinton in NH.
#275. To: Pinguinite (#273)
#276. To: Cynicom (#270)
Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party.
#277. To: scrapper2 (#274)
And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll.
#278. To: buckeye (#276)
#279. To: scrapper2 (#269)
(Palo) IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP
How did Ron answer that question?
but if any of them became more in sync with RP's positions he'd give those candidates consideration -
thank you very much for this post
Ya gotta hand it to Ron Paul
what a lovely gentleman he is, and how perfectly he answered that question
He is the ideal combo, perfectly honest, plus perfect gentleman
we really are backing a lovely man for President
Love, Palo
#280. To: Cynicom (#272)
If I were Paul I would have me a bright young man as VP and announce it NOW.
Someone that is known and good at public speaking and turn him loose.
you are good at this
Love, Palo
#281. To: palo verde (#279)
#282. To: palo verde (#280)
#283. To: buckeye, scrapper2, ALL (#277)
(Scrapper) And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll.
most college students are too
but Dartmouth is Ivy League, it is not typical college
meeting wirh the campus Republicans there
#284. To: Cynicom (#282)
It is a waste of time trying to penetrate the firewall that the slicks have around Paul. You note Hillary did bad in Iowas and immediately brought in new faces.
that Ron Paul's campaign people stink
they have to get wtih the program
I don't know what will wake them up
maybe they will believe the fraud vote in New Hampshire, and think they have to make some big changes
that would be a good outcome from this "disaster"
Love, Palo
#285. To: Cynicom, palo verde (#272)
If I were Paul I would have me a bright young man as VP and announce it NOW. Someone that is known and good at public speaking and turn him lose.
#286. To: Cynicom (#278)
#287. To: scrapper2 (#285)
But the part that troubled me in the Leno interview was when Jay asked RP if he were forced to vote for a Dem candidate
who would he choose based on positions that were close to his own
and RP said Dennis Kucinich.
this one I see the opposite of you, I think Ron Paul answered that question perfectly
God I love that guy
he's so perfect in every way
Love, Palo
#288. To: Cynicom, scrapper2, ALL (#282)
we have a great candidate, but inept campaign team LOL
which is why Ron Paul will win
#289. To: scrapper2 (#285)
Kucinich
he voted against Iraq War like Ron Paul
like Ron Paul he has voted against all the funding for the wars
and like Ron Paul he voted against Real ID
#290. To: palo verde (#287)
scrapper: But the part that troubled me in the Leno interview was when Jay asked RP if he were forced to vote for a Dem candidate who would he choose based on positions that were close to his own and RP said Dennis Kucinich.
#291. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#170)
There were a number of suggestions at this site, suggesting that this nation can be saved by people actually joining the GOP party and change that abomination from within. What an abominable idea.
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#292. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#170)
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#293. To: buckeye, scrapper2 (#277)
And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll.
#294. To: iconoclast (#293)
Oh well, only fools thought this was going to be easy.
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