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Title: NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary
Source: MSNBC
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Published: Jan 8, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-01-08 20:15:12 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 4926
Comments: 341

NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary
Real-time Race Results: Updated January 8, 2008 - 8:11 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 11%
CandidateVotesVote %DelegatesProjected Winner
McCain7,89637%0Winner
Romney5,97628%0
Huckabee2,59112%0
Giuliani1,8859%0
Paul1,8129%0
Thompson3051%0
Hunter1261%0

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#15. To: All, Vote Count Update (#0)

Estimated Delegates: 12
Republican Primary Results
Real-time Race Results: Updated January 8, 2008 - 8:43 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 17%
CandidateVotesVote %DelegatesProjected Winner
McCain11,63237%0Winner
Romney8,67428%0
Huckabee3,80312%0
Giuliani2,8749%0
Paul2,6629%0
Thompson4452%0
Hunter1721%0

Brian S  posted on  2008-01-08   20:45:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Brian S (#15) (Edited)

If Paul can pull 10% in a Republican primary with the goob foolers aligned against him, I think he would actually have a chance as an independent. It's too bad he isn't considering this.

There's a good chance it's going to come down to Hillary vs McCain. Hillary's not going to pull away goobs conditioned to hate Hillary on command no matter how much they dislike the war. Paul could pull from both sides.

...  posted on  2008-01-08   20:51:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: ... (#16)

I think he would actually have a chance as an independent. It's too bad he isn't considering this.

It is time that he gives it serious consideration.

Fact of the matter is, RP will never get the GOP nomination for President.

Brian S  posted on  2008-01-08   20:56:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Brian S, critter, lodwick, Palo verde (#20)

Fact of the matter is, RP will never get the GOP nomination for President.

And every GOP that voted for him should do like I'm going to do and walk away from the party. I intend on joining the Constitution Party though Libertarian is more consistent with my ideals.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-01-08   21:00:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: farmfriend (#23)

And every GOP that voted for him should do like I'm going to do and walk away from the party. I intend on joining the Constitution Party though Libertarian is more consistent with my ideals.

Let's face it: Thanks to the efforts of GWB and Dick Cheney, there is not going to be another Republican president for at least 20 years, minimum, and quite possibly a lot longer than that. All any Democratic candidate for any office is going to have to say for the next 20 years will be "Bush, Cheney, Bush, Cheney, Bush, Cheney" in reply to any and all questions, and that's it, they'll win any election for any office anywhere. Bush and Cheney have contaminated the brand that badly. The damage may be irreparable.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-01-08   21:04:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ALL (#28)

I am not giving up on Ron Paul being our President

Love, Palo

I think Ron Paul will do well in South Carolina

it is significant that Iowa went to Huckabee, and NH for McCain
obviously NH is no longer "live free or die"

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   21:12:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: palo verde (#40)

palo verde: it is significant that Iowa went to Huckabee, and NH for McCain obviously NH is no longer "live free or die"

christine: the true interpretation is that the MIC elected McLame in NH.

I don't understand NH's affection for McCrazy. I don't think MIC has anything to do with it frankly. McCain won New Hampshire when he ran against dubya in 2000. And one would think the MIC folks would love both of them equally.

McCain's continued popularity in NH is a puzzling one.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-08   21:27:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: scrapper2 (#55)

Puzzling, indeed........was not Bob Smith the senator from NH, who was a very outspoken advocate for the POW/MIA families...........those families that mclame pushed aside as being of no importance because there were trade deals to be made with viet name, etc.

How they could go from sending a senator like that to picking a sicko like mclame for prez is beyond most people, I'd venture to say.

rowdee  posted on  2008-01-08   22:34:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: rowdee (#131)

Puzzling, indeed........was not Bob Smith the senator from NH, who was a very outspoken advocate for the POW/MIA families...........those families that mclame pushed aside as being of no importance because there were trade deals to be made with viet name, etc.

How they could go from sending a senator like that to picking a sicko like mclame for prez is beyond most people, I'd venture to say.

Also I'm puzzled that Huckabee has done as well as he has in NH. Previously political pundits predicted that Huckabee would finish near the bottom because there's not much of an evangelical base in NH.

And indeed Huckabee himself seems bewildered ( but thankful) for his 3rd place finish in NH. From Bloomberg:

...Huckabee said the campaign was happy with his third-place finish when weeks ago "nobody thought we would even be one of the contenders in New Hampshire."...

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-08   22:45:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: scrapper2, TwentyTwelve, critter, ALL (#139)

(by scrapper2)

Also I'm puzzled that Huckabee has done as well as he has in NH. Previously political pundits predicted that Huckabee would finish near the bottom because there's not much of an evangelical base in NH.

And indeed Huckabee himself seems bewildered ( but thankful) for his 3rd place finish in NH. From Bloomberg:

...Huckabee said the campaign was happy with his third-place finish when weeks ago "nobody thought we would even be one of the contenders in New Hampshire."...

it's possible Huckabee got those votes

for the same reason he got the votes in Iowa

they interpreted his message to mean he stands outside the establishment
and speaks for the little guy

I just would like to know what happened to the votes for Ron Paul
it appears that half of them were not counted

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   22:56:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: palo verde, scrapper2, TwentyTwelve, critter, ALL (#146)

it's possible Huckabee got those votes

It's also possible that the Moon is made of Green Cheese.

Palo, you are a dear but the Iowa Ca-Ca-us was as crooked as a 3 dollar bill. The results were taken into a back room, and then after a couple hours delay as the results were slowly cooked, they were announced. They were not true results but they were the ones the crooks can make stand.

There are already reports coming out from Iowans who voted for Ron Paul calling foul.

The same holds true for New Hampshire. You can bet that there will be a big divergence between the Paper Ballots/Hand Counted Precincts and the Diebold Machine Made results.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-08   23:10:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Original_Intent, Critter, FormerLurker (#161)

New Hampshire Republican Primary

Precincts Reporting: 220 Of 301 73%

Winner Candidate Votes Vote %

X John McCain 63,140 37%

Mitt Romney 54,483 32%

Mike Huckabee 19,139 11%

Rudy Giuliani 14,619 9%

Ron Paul 13,283 8%

Fred Thompson 2,045 1%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-08   23:13:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Critter, Buckeye, lodwick, ALL (#166)

John McCain 63,140 37%

Mitt Romney 54,483 32%

Mike Huckabee 19,139 11%

Rudy Giuliani 14,619 9%

Ron Paul 13,283 8%

Fred Thompson 2,045 1%

So if the votes had been counted honestly
with Ron Paul's 14 percent reported by Rasmussen
(I thought the true number was 18 percent because Rasmussen can't reach anyone on cellphone
and youth is on cellephone)

then Ron Paul would have come in 3rd
I agree with Original Intent
this was not allowed

OK, I'm not going to get mad about it
but I am going to get even more determined to put Ron Paul in our Oval Office this time next year

GO RON GO

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-08   23:31:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: palo verde, Cynicom (#196)

with Ron Paul's 14 percent reported by Rasmussen

Before the debate? As I've said, RP's delivery in the ABC debate was less than stellar for the undecided traditional voter. He needs to get tough, like he did on Laura Ingrahm's show today.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-08   23:34:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: buckeye (#202)

Paul needs to to tell Americans, "I am in this to the end, GOP or third party, whatever it takes".

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-08   23:37:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: Cynicom (#208)

Right on. Have you called the campaign yet, with your septuagenarian qualifications? I'm thinking you should fly out to stand in their way between limousine and hotel, if they won't take your call.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-08   23:40:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: buckeye (#215)

I cast my lot with Paul to the bitter end if he cares to go that far.

Jumping ship before it leaves the dock is not my forte.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-08   23:43:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: Cynicom (#218)

Jumping ship before it leaves the dock is not my forte.

Well you may want to put that enthusiasm to work on the phone with them.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-08   23:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: buckeye (#229)

Paul does have people around him that are not too adept at picking up all support that is available and I made that fact known. No reply.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-08   23:50:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: Cynicom (#230)

Paul does have people around him that are not too adept at picking up all support that is available and I made that fact known. No reply.

They neglected to put their ads on Boston TV stations (until the last minute at most), and focused on local NH stations that almost nobody watches.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-08   23:52:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: FormerLurker (#237)

Paul has problems in that no one could answer a straight forward email but I received two canned emails in one day looking for money.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-08   23:55:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: Cynicom (#239)

Paul has problems in that no one could answer a straight forward email but I received two canned emails in one day looking for money.

I received a response from a campaign volunteer that was about as useless as what you got.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:00:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: FormerLurker (#243)

received a response from a campaign volunteer that was about as useless as what you got.

maybe you should threaten to stop donating to them, that will get their attention
they're overly thrilled about the money coming in, and aren't doing their campaign right
because your ideas for them are GOOD!!! they need to hear them and pay attention to them!!
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:17:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: palo verde (#257)

I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:19:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Cynicom, FormerLurker, ALL (#259)

I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.

You did excellent, you have to mention money to get their full attention
because they are overly excited about the money

and what they need are good ideas!
and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:22:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: palo verde, Cynicom (#262)

and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them

It'll be much more difficult to do nationwide what they could have done in the small state of NH.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:28:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: FormerLurker (#265)

My thinking...

Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party.

That automatically defeats the republican warmonger.

I would much rather be one of 30 million voters for Paul in a third party race than sit at home doing nothing.

Perot garnered 20 million and Paul can do better.

Before vast waves the white flag whining Paul wont win, I wont to say no kidding, how observant of you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:34:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Cynicom (#270)

Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party.

It's good. It must happen.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-09   0:40:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: buckeye (#276)

With such an announcement I suspect we would see a major shift in the pub candidates toward Paul, trying to CYA.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:43:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: Cynicom (#278)

this post made me giggle :)

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