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Title: NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary
Source: MSNBC
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Published: Jan 8, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-01-08 20:15:12 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 5042
Comments: 341

NBC News Calls John McCain Projected Winner of NH Primary
Real-time Race Results: Updated January 8, 2008 - 8:11 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 11%
CandidateVotesVote %DelegatesProjected Winner
McCain7,89637%0Winner
Romney5,97628%0
Huckabee2,59112%0
Giuliani1,8859%0
Paul1,8129%0
Thompson3051%0
Hunter1261%0

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#252. To: Cynicom, palo verde, buckeye, FormerLurker (#235)

Really odd, the NH voters picked a preacher and assorted war mongers. That does not compute.

i don't believe for one moment that they did.

christine  posted on  2008-01-09   0:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: TwentyTwelve (#247)

Title: Paul gets 8% of the NH vote - what a landslide for this front runner!!

Well the shills certainly seem pretty proud of themselves. They've done a good job at guaranteeing Hillary's coronation, or Obama's landslide victory.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: christine (#252)

i don't believe for one moment that they did.

The McCain vote isn't surprising, but the Huckabee vote doesn't compute.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: FormerLurker, FOH, Original_Intent (#253)

Well the shills certainly seem pretty proud of themselves. They've done a good job at guaranteeing Hillary's coronation, or Obama's landslide victory.

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-09   0:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: christine (#252) (Edited)

It is gross contradiction that a preacher does well and two war mongers do very well, that is in both pub and dem.

How can a segment vote for a man of peace and a war monger that wants to invade Iran or whoever is available. To me it is not intelligent thinking by all of them.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: FormerLurker (#243)

received a response from a campaign volunteer that was about as useless as what you got.

maybe you should threaten to stop donating to them, that will get their attention
they're overly thrilled about the money coming in, and aren't doing their campaign right
because your ideas for them are GOOD!!! they need to hear them and pay attention to them!!
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Vitamin Z (#249)

Thanks. I've loved that song for a long time.

I may not care for BS's politics but she is/was a helluva singer and it was a great song.

I wonder what Mrs. Robinson is up to these days? Posting on Rimjobistan?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-09   0:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: palo verde (#257)

I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: FormerLurker (#251)

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, although many of the other candidates had local town hall meetings in NH, I'm not aware of any that Ron Paul's campaign organized, except for the one last Sunday in a small TV studio.

good point!!

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: TwentyTwelve (#255)

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

He doesn't suck up to the Israeli Lobby.

I think it should be clear by now that Goldi-Putz cares more about the Israeli Police State than a free American Republic.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-09   0:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Cynicom, FormerLurker, ALL (#259)

I told them the choice was theirs. If the donations start dropping off there will be questions asked and the "grassroots" will receive the blame.

You did excellent, you have to mention money to get their full attention
because they are overly excited about the money

and what they need are good ideas!
and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: TwentyTwelve, FOH, Original_Intent (#255)

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

I bet she's pretty proud of herself as well..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: Cynicom (#250)

palo...

Perhaps you watched Paul on Leno last nite.

Leno asked the question of who would Paul pick of the others for his VP...
That to me seemed to be a planted question by Paul and very interesting.
I just cannot figure out what was the purpose.

I meant to watch Leno last night, I don't know what happened

IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP

How did Ron answer that question?

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: palo verde, Cynicom (#262)

and you and Former Lurker and others have come up with top notch ideas for them

It'll be much more difficult to do nationwide what they could have done in the small state of NH.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-09   0:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: palo verde (#264)

palo..

It was a well worded NO. If the question was not planted, Leno did well on his own.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: christine, Cynicom (#252)

i don't believe for one moment that they did.

Many years ago, it was foretold by economists that a massive generation gap would emerge. It is happening now. The youth know that we older people are going to cost them given our present system of entitlements. This is a form of slavery they see coming, and they are right to vote against it. Older people should recognize its inherent unfairness, as well. This may need to be spoken to reach the generation that voted for Mccain and Clinton in NH.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-09   0:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: FormerLurker (#263)

.. and Goldi removed most of the Ron Paul supporters from her site.

I bet she's pretty proud of herself as well..

It was good for Israel.

Fuck the stupid Goys. /Hasbarfa

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-09   0:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: palo verde (#264)

IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP

How did Ron answer that question?

RP was polite - as I recall he said the current crop of GOP candidates would have to change their positions considerably but if any of them became more in sync with RP's positions he'd give those candidates consideration - RP said for example he tried to educate Rudy about foreign policy issues by recommending various books but thusfar Rudy did not seem to available himself of RP's reading list so RP did not seem hopeful about the others either.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-09   0:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: FormerLurker (#265)

My thinking...

Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party.

That automatically defeats the republican warmonger.

I would much rather be one of 30 million voters for Paul in a third party race than sit at home doing nothing.

Perot garnered 20 million and Paul can do better.

Before vast waves the white flag whining Paul wont win, I wont to say no kidding, how observant of you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: FormerLurker (#228)

so my best response is to come back stronger, no? Of course it is palo, but with the machines in SC more than likely rigged, I won't hold my breath for good results there..

we'll see
I was so idealistic and naive about New Hampshire and look what they did
voter fraud on Ron Paul
ya know the original AP report about keeping Ron Paul out of the Fox debate
said it was the decision of the NH GOP
notice how 2 days before the Fox debate, the NH GOP took that "principled stand" to disavow the debate
I bet the New Hampshire GOP had figured out how to work the fraud
and then could "afford" to be so "noble"
"Let Ron Pual be in the debate" they said

South Carolina may be honest, just as Iowa was
I pray so

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: scrapper2 (#269)

If I were Paul I would have me a bright young man as VP and announce it NOW. Someone that is known and good at public speaking and turn him lose.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: Cynicom (#250)

Leno asked the question of who would Paul pick of the others for his VP...That to me seemed to be a planted question by Paul and very interesting. I just cannot figure out what was the purpose.

I saw it and I thought Leno asked if he'd be willing to be VP if asked by another candidate. I don't remember Leno asking who Ron would choose.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-01-09   0:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: buckeye (#267)

Many years ago, it was foretold by economists that a massive generation gap would emerge. It is happening now. The youth know that we older people are going to cost them given our present system of entitlements. This is a form of slavery they see coming, and they are right to vote against it. Older people should recognize its inherent unfairness, as well. This may need to be spoken to reach the generation that voted for Mccain and Clinton in NH.

And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll. I'm not sure if the poll was reflected in how the votes went tonight in NH college towns.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-09   0:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: Pinguinite (#273)

Neil

You have it backward.

I suspect Paul asked him to ask it, maybe not.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Cynicom (#270)

Paul would do well to announce to the grassroots and to the public that he is in this to the bitter end, win lose or draw, via the pub party or via a third party.

It's good. It must happen.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-09   0:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: scrapper2 (#274)

And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll.

I'm stunned.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-09   0:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: buckeye (#276)

With such an announcement I suspect we would see a major shift in the pub candidates toward Paul, trying to CYA.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: scrapper2 (#269)

(Palo) IMHO Ron Paul would not pick any of the others to be his VP
How did Ron answer that question?

(scrapper2) RP was polite - as I recall he said the current crop of GOP candidates would have to change their positions considerably
but if any of them became more in sync with RP's positions he'd give those candidates consideration -

RP said for example he tried to educate Rudy about foreign policy issues by recommending various books but thusfar Rudy did not seem to available himself of RP's reading list so RP did not seem hopeful about the others either.

O Scrapper, you are the best
thank you very much for this post
Ya gotta hand it to Ron Paul
what a lovely gentleman he is, and how perfectly he answered that question
He is the ideal combo, perfectly honest, plus perfect gentleman
we really are backing a lovely man for President
Love, Palo

GO Ron GO!!!

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Cynicom (#272)

If I were Paul I would have me a bright young man as VP and announce it NOW.
Someone that is known and good at public speaking and turn him loose.

another brilliant and practical idea of yours!
you are good at this
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: palo verde (#279)

Scrap is younger than me with a better memory.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: palo verde (#280)

It is a waste of time trying to penetrate the firewall that the slicks have around Paul. You note Hillary did bad in Iowas and immediately brought in new faces.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-09   0:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: buckeye, scrapper2, ALL (#277)

(Scrapper) And now for the bad news about the "new generation" at least in NH - a poster here said the college students in NH had picked Rudy Giuliani as their favorite GOPer in poll.

(Buckeye) I'm stunned.

Rudy is socially liberal
most college students are too
but Dartmouth is Ivy League, it is not typical college

here in Tucson, most Tucsonans go to the community college

and I know at the U of Arizona, my Ron Paul Meet Up group had very successful
meeting wirh the campus Republicans there

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   0:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: Cynicom (#282)

It is a waste of time trying to penetrate the firewall that the slicks have around Paul. You note Hillary did bad in Iowas and immediately brought in new faces.

It is like fighting with one hand tied behind our backs
that Ron Paul's campaign people stink

I think the money will stop gushing in to them, if they don't use it to better avail
they have to get wtih the program
I don't know what will wake them up
maybe they will believe the fraud vote in New Hampshire, and think they have to make some big changes
that would be a good outcome from this "disaster"
Love, Palo

To Ron Paul campaign people, WAKE UP!!

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   1:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Cynicom, palo verde (#272)

If I were Paul I would have me a bright young man as VP and announce it NOW. Someone that is known and good at public speaking and turn him lose.

It might be a bit too early to expect that RP has received any firm committments from people he has contacted. I did not mind the way he handled that question - he made a few jokes - and I think it went over well.

But the part that troubled me in the Leno interview was when Jay asked RP if he were forced to vote for a Dem candidate who would he choose based on positions that were close to his own and RP said Dennis Kucinich. And RP then quickly qualified his choice by saying Kucinich and he were both anti-Iraq War but they were very far apart on domestic policies. However, I'm not sure if anyone kept listening to RP's qualification ( except for devoted RP supporters like me) after they heard him pick Kucinich as being closest to him in policy positions - it was the end of the interview with a lead into a commercial break.

If I were RP, I would have just said I don't see any Dem candidate that reflects my constitutionally based positions. But for RP to pick a statistical last place loser of a Dem candidate ie. Kucinich, who is also so left wing he almost falls off the charts was most unfortunate. In fact, if I were an undecided NH independent and heard RP basically aligning himself with a) a loser and b) a far left socialist - I would have been very turned off. Americans like winners generally speaking and NH itself is not a hotbed of socialism.

That particular response did not help RP at all imo.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-09   1:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: Cynicom (#278)

this post made me giggle :)

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   1:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: scrapper2 (#285)

But the part that troubled me in the Leno interview was when Jay asked RP if he were forced to vote for a Dem candidate
who would he choose based on positions that were close to his own
and RP said Dennis Kucinich.

thank you for your informative post on this Scrapper
this one I see the opposite of you, I think Ron Paul answered that question perfectly
God I love that guy
he's so perfect in every way
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   1:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Cynicom, scrapper2, ALL (#282)

usually its a stinky candidate with a great campaign team
we have a great candidate, but inept campaign team LOL

but let's be honest what matters is the candidate
which is why Ron Paul will win

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   1:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: scrapper2 (#285)

Kucinich

Dennis voted against the Patriot Act like Ron Paul
he voted against Iraq War like Ron Paul
like Ron Paul he has voted against all the funding for the wars
and like Ron Paul he voted against Real ID

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-09   1:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: palo verde (#287)

scrapper: But the part that troubled me in the Leno interview was when Jay asked RP if he were forced to vote for a Dem candidate who would he choose based on positions that were close to his own and RP said Dennis Kucinich.

palo verde: thank you for your informative post on this Scrapper this one I see the opposite of you, I think Ron Paul answered that question perfectly God I love that guy he's so perfect in every way Love, Palo

Maybe I'm being to overly sensitive to political perceptions that result from something that might not have much significence one way or another.

RP appeals to a broad cross section of supporters. So maybe there are some supporters who think Kucinch is not so bad.

However, I'm more of a paleo-conservative with a sprinkle of libertarian and consequently I projected how I would interpret RP's choice - which was to have my hair stand on end.

A guy like Kucinich - a bigtime nanny statist who believes in redistribution of wealth so everyone can be equally miserable -is the absolute worst candidate in the 2 parties combined from my perspective. Kucinich stands for everything I loathe. His anti-Iraq War position is the exception but even that does not make up for all of Kucinich's negatives.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-09   1:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#170)

There were a number of suggestions at this site, suggesting that this nation can be saved by people actually joining the GOP party and change that abomination from within. What an abominable idea.

I think that was possible before 9/11. Even Bush ran on no national building.


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2008-01-09   1:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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