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Title: Time To Stand Up and Make Noise
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Published: Jan 9, 2008
Author: Original_Intent
Post Date: 2008-01-09 15:03:57 by Original_Intent
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Comments: 46
The evidence is accumulating and we can now know with some degree of certitude that the results of the Iowa Caucus and the New Hampshire Primary were rigged.
Armed insurrection is not now an option. There are people who would advocate this but we must, for now, resist the impulse. The problem with taking to arms is that they now have enough of a Police State apparatus in place that it would be ineffective. For it to be effective you need millions of people rising up all at once. What we would have is the chaos of a few small groups being "eliminated" and a complete news blackout of their sacrifice. Isolated pockets of armed resistance and insurrection are simply going to get the "WACO" treatment and simply result in dead patriots.
What we need now is a large uprising but it needs to remain peaceful despite the provocateurs that will start agitating to start shooting. We CAN do this. The key is going mouth to mouth, person to person, and not stewing in silence. The one thing that dark actions, as have occurred, cannot withstand is sanitizing light. Our opposition is not omniscient and they are not omnipotent, but they do control the major media. We have two avenues of resistance that are viable - the Internet and one to another. We have in our hands the tools to fight back but we must use them. What we need to do for the time being is to COMMUNICATE tell everyone you know about this - if you have the ability print up business cards with the links to appropriate web sites such as:
BlackBoxVoting.org
RonPaulWarroom.com
Truthnews.us
Rense.com
WhatReallyHappened.com
Freedom4um.com
The Presstitutes of the controlled media will not report this massive vote fraud. Period. If they do they will mis-report it as "Sour Grapes". We know they will spin this and so we must make the issue HONEST ELECTIONS not just Ron Paul.
What we really need is for the Paul and Obama campaigns to start making noise and calling on their supporters to make noise.
MAKE NOISE. Do not remain silent, talk to family, friends, colleagues, associates, anyone who will listen. If they are too mind numbed and brainwashed move on. Don't waste time on those who WILL NOT look.
However, do something - when in doubt communicate. Get the word out and make waves. Those little ripples you make in communicating combine and soon they gather together into waves. So, help make those waves.
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#6. To: Elliott Jackalope, original_intent (#4)
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Done it. They could care less. There aren't enough people. The ARI proves a small minority can fend off a fascist monster.. Once in a cell, it's too late. How long must we wait then? When they are at the door? I refer you to the words of Patrick Henry. I agree that "now is not the time.." does not mean this day, but "V" day is not 5 years from now either. The POlice State apparatus is NOT complete. Soon it will be.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx News item: For more than thirty years it has been Israel's policy to assassinate or otherwise eliminate popular Palestinian leaders who were independent and had wide trust of the people …
Has anyone emailed their Meetup group and/or RonPaul campaign regarding the voter fraud? That's where we need to start, IMO.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! Bo Gritz can kiss my Grits. It has nothing to do with being squeamish but has everything to do with being effective. Would I like to kill the bastards that are trying to enslave my country? You betcha! However, I am not into Pyrrhic Victories. The reality is that they hold all the cards and at this point between the media control, the cowards and quislings, and the mind controlled/information controlled ignorance of the American Sheeple it would be an exercise in futility. I am not really big on futile gestures. Although I do have gesture I would like to offer in their direction. The time to have taken up arms was 1968, but too many people just called the rebels a bunch of "dirty hippies" and many cheered when kids were killed at Kent State. All an armed insurrection would get us now is killed. The media would black out any of the real reasons for any insurrection and the treasonous swine in their black Gestapo Outfits would move in to "liquidate" the resistance. We would get Martial Law and a nationwide lockdown. At this point it would force their hand, but it would be bloody and ineffective. We cannot get enough people to get off of their behinds and from in front of the Idiot Machine watching the Sunday Gladitorial Games to have an effect of any positive significance. We are now in a guerilla information war. Our most effective weapon at this point is information - getting the truth out - rubbing people's noses in it. As it stands right now a majority of Americans are not only ignorant of the true situation they are unmotivated to do anything about it. It is not real to them that their lives ARE in danger. Without first laying the informational foundation armed revolt is pointless and suicidal. That does not mean I advocate being passive, but actions like those being taken by "We Are Change" is the order of the day. We have to be as Samuel Adams said "keen to light brushfires in people's minds". As it stands right now they don't dare make an overt move to turn us into a Police State as then there would be widespread armed resistance. So, we still have a window of opportunity to act. As long as the bad guys know that there are a lot of itchy trigger fingers with the means to scratch they will move with some degree of caution. We must take advantage of that to turn the tide. We may not get out of this without gunfire but we can minimize it by reducing their strength by breaking through their conditioning. To do that we must tackle people one by one and as soon as someone is awake they need to be pushed to begin fighting the guerilla war. Through that means we still stand a chance.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
News item: For more than thirty years it has been Israel's policy to assassinate or otherwise eliminate popular Palestinian leaders who were independent and had wide trust of the people … Kind of like: JFK, MLK, RFK, JFK Jr., Paul Wellstone, etc., ...? That is why decentralized resistance with multiple points of action is needful. We must as individuals be independently motivated to do something.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
The masses have one "RIGHT" that can never be taken away by laws, infringed upon by the powerful, that is the right of assassination, that right will always be with us.
Absolutely. That is why they fear being identified as individuals -such as David Rockefeller, Jay Rockefeller, Jacob Rothschild, etc., ... They must be made afraid that their continued actions will result in assassinations. I am ready to do what is needed but I am not into pointless sacrifice.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
After every successful revolution, one of the very first laws passed is a law making "revolution or its advocacy illegal and punishable by death". Our Revolution was no different.
Good explanation and well thought out!!! There are so damned many high IQs on this board, if we all got together like the Continental Congress, we could run a country!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx
"Don't give up the fight"
Thanks, and I think the membership of this forum would do an outstanding job running the country. Like you say we've got some pretty sharp people here.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Lodwick for sec of Defense, Robin for press Sec, Cynicom for Sec of State, Yertle Turtle for Social Security, Brian s for Middle East Affairs, Original Intent for Interior and Christine and Zipporah for Homeland Security.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" And anxeolith for department of IQ.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I can live with Interior as I am an avid outdoorsman, but who gets Treasury (I have experience in the area but DO NOT want the job). First thing we do is fire the head of the Forest Service and install an old fashioned Conservationist. The Greens and the Lumber Barons can BOTH kiss my ass.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Can I be Ambassador to France? I promise I won't commit any major blunders. Honest....
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#7. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Armed insurrection is not now an option.
#8. To: Original_Intent (#0)
The Revolution will not be televised!
#9. To: IndieTX (#5)
(Edited)
Should we wait until we are handcuffed as well before we take to arms? Once in a cell, it's too late. Although the faux patriot double agent Bo Gritz would agree with you.
#10. To: karelian (#7)
Armed insurrection is not now an option.
#11. To: Original_Intent (#9)
#12. To: Cynicom (#11)
The masses have one "RIGHT" that can never be taken away by laws, infringed upon by the powerful, that is the right of assassination, that right will always be with us.
#13. To: Original_Intent (#12)
#14. To: Original_Intent, christine (#9)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#15. To: Original_Intent (#0)
#16. To: christine, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Ferret Mike, robin, aristeides, Peppa, tom007, Zipporah, FOH, lodwick, Burkeman1, Brian S, (#15)
#17. To: IndieTX, christine (#14)
Good explanation and well thought out!!! There are so damned many high IQs on this board, if we all got together like the Continental Congress, we could run a country!
#18. To: Original_Intent (#17)
Thanks, and I think the membership of this forum would do an outstanding job running the country. Like you say we've got some pretty sharp people here.
#19. To: All, anxeolith (#18)
#20. To: tom007 (#18)
#21. To: tom007 (#18)
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#22. To: Original_Intent (#20)
First thing we do is fire the head of the Forest Service and install an old fashioned Conservationist. The Greens and the Lumber Barons can BOTH kiss my ass.
#23. To: _______ (#22)
Thank you kind sir.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#24. To: tom007, robin, Cynicom, Yertle Turtle, Brian S, Zipporah (#18)
cabinet meeting ping!
#25. To: Axenolith, tom007 (#19)
tom, you massacred the spelling of axe's name. :P
All, anxeolith And anxeolith for department of IQ.
#26. To: Elliott Jackalope (#21)
Done. And take care Central Asia while youre at it.
Can I be Ambassador to France? I promise I won't commit any major blunders. Honest....
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#27. To: christine (#25)
Well I am deep into central Asia 19 century history these days so I am mad at everyone. Trying to understand WW One. That was the theme of the time. That and COLOSSIAL HISTORICAL IGNORANCE. Thank you christine, for your measured response. I am angry at mankind right now. And that means me. And my family, that are such suckers for the war mongering emotivating propaganda that constitutes our media.
tom, you massacred the spelling of axe's name. :P
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#28. To: tom007 (#18)
don't I get a job?
Tag Line For Rent (M, 48, NY)
#29. To: Critter, tom007 (#28)
Bureau of small furry rodents.
don't I get a job?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#30. To: christine, tom007 (#25)
Still, quite an honor none the less!
Government blows and that which governs least blows least...
#31. To: Original_Intent (#29)
I was thinking of something a little more... uhmmmm... well... something where I can have a steady supply of young, gorgeous interns under my employ...
Tag Line For Rent (M, 48, NY)
#32. To: tom007 (#27)
not your immediate?
And my family, that are such suckers for the war mongering emotivating propaganda that constitutes our media.
#33. To: Critter (#31)
Ah, ha! Why of course - "The Equal Opportunity Employment Commission". A no brainer.
I was thinking of something a little more... uhmmmm... well... something where I can have a steady supply of young, gorgeous interns under my employ...
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)
There ya go. The sign on my office wall: Warning
Sexual harassment occurring in this area will not be reported, but it will be graded.
Tag Line For Rent (M, 48, NY)
#35. To: Critter, Original_Intent (#34)
LOL! Better than the one I had in my office which said don't talk to me before I've had my coffee.
The sign on my office wall:
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#36. To: Critter (#34)
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#37. To: Original_Intent (#9)
And, I might add, economic. Every day we have to enlighten others to tyranny and collectivism is also another day to steel ourselves and others to reduce debt and unshackel ourselves from the engine that drives it all, the ability of government and its lackeys (or vice versa with respect to the power hierarchy) to issue their "legal tender" in effectively infinite amounts. In the abstract, it's easy to see the pernicious effects of this monster upon us individually, but when you really think about it, it is THE root of pretty much every bad thing that's happened in the last ~125 years. Resource impacts are orders of magnitude higher than would be from the natural accumulation of wealth (baring a few temporary, localized events involving "bonanza's" of monetary metals) and the inherent cautiousness imposed by the rates of capital accumulation and potential risk of any given undertaking versus when you can "make" billions of exploitive capital out of thin air. That same created money causes huge dislocations and migrations in populations. The people who make it can essentially "buy" the allegence of those same work and income hungry masses through handouts financed via the created money and at the same time can "punish" the predominantly independant working middle classes via taxation to "finance" it and by spending that created money to incrementally insinuate itself into every aspect of the peoples lives. How they work, How their children are raised and "indoctrinated", How they are treated, or that treatment is withheld in illness, How they move, etc... It enabled States to finance the creation of engines of destruction unimaginable in any given prior decade back to around 1880. Then, since you have to "use it" to keep the gears of fiat and fractional rolling, it resulted in MILLIONS of young men being hornswoggled into what was essentially a single world orgy of war from ~1910 to 1946. Knowing that something like the human processing event known as World War One was essentially a fucking Bank event (in our case, bailing out Chase and Morgan after they financed half of the youth of England, France and Germany getting turned into worm shit for a few hundred yards of mud a year) and that the conclusion of it merely resulted in the preparation for round two by the same instigators makes me want to find where J.P. Morgan is buried, dig him up and shit into his skull. The worst thing about watching the events of America and the world unfold today and understanding this seemingly unstoppable juggernaught is the thought that before it comes to a head, I, and craploads of other people who still "get it" will get to old or decrepit before it does and in succeeding generations the numbers of folks who understand and value freedom, honest toil, private property rights, and individual weapons ownership will dwindle to the point that they are merely nuisances and hunted pariahs, Boogeymen to keep the Plasma TV attached drones in check and in fear of the overwhelming power of the Scientifically Managed State Unit. The way to break this soon is refusal of credit, or if it's literally being given away, take it and convert it to tangible stores of wealth temporarily out of the economic stream. Barter. Pay for things locally with monetary metals, like kind exchanges, even clad coinage (I've heard that the coinage fraction of the money supply is a direct Treasury issue and does not benefit the FED though I've not researched or confirmed this yet). Make things, repair things, and learn how to do the same (probably 90% preaching to the choir here). Vote no for ANYTHING that wants money. Noodle out people locally who think like Ron Paul and elect them. DON'T let "wolves in sheeps clothing" squirm into Constitutionally ideological parties and run for office (we had one here a few years back who ran against POS Ellen Tauscher as a Libertarian with essentially NO advertising but who espoused ideas like forcing employers to permanently hire temps after 6 months! And she took 27%!!! There was no Republican running that year either, in retrospect that SHOULD have been a free Libertarian or Constitution party seat!). Oh, and a last trailing part of this rant. I don't do doctor visits very often except for multi year separated checkups, but one thing I've done on any health plan change, during that initial consultation, is talk to my doctor about his views on health care in general, and if we were to either hit the economic rocks, or get shoehorned into a socialized medical system, would they accept gold, silver, or goods, etc... in exchange for services, potentially in a discrete manner? So far, I've been very pleased with the response the last couple of times :-) /end rambling diatribe...
We are now in a guerilla information war.
Government blows and that which governs least blows least...
#38. To: tom007 (#27)
Oh God, it only takes The Creature From Jekyl Island coupled with reading about any given week having ONE DAY where 20 some odd thousand 19 year olds get mowed down screaming, burgerized by artillery, or snotting out their bloody lungs to make you just want to go back in time, bury a pack of elites up to their necks in the desert, facing the sun, cut off their eyelids, and leave a bottle of water and viseen right in front of their noses...
Trying to understand WW One.
Government blows and that which governs least blows least...
#39. To: farmfriend, Critter, Original_Intent (#35)
During a lean period back in the 90's I posted one on my bosses office door that read "WILL PULL TANKS FOR FOOD" (Tanks being Underground Storage Tanks or USTs). I usually made sure that A) I was pretty damn billable and B) that that would continue to the immediate future, before I pulled stuff like that :-)
The sign on my office wall...
Government blows and that which governs least blows least...
#40. To: Axenolith (#39)
CYA at all times.
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#41. To: christine, tom007, robin, Yertle Turtle, Brian S, Zipporah (#24) (Edited)
I would be most happy to take a non paying job of "hangman". In fact I would pay you people for the appointment. May I have the job, PLEASE?????
#42. To: Cynicom (#41) (Edited)
I'm sure there will be much competition for this duty. You have my vote and blessing if you wouldn't mind hanging these pukes by the family load, starting with the Bush clan or Rockefellers, then the Clintons and many, many others. PLEASE, ?
May I have the job, PLEASE?????
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money ." --- Josiah Stamp
#43. To: noone222 (#42) (Edited)
Sir... I promise on my honor as one of the unwashed masses that I would carry out my duties with all due diligence. I would be available 24/7, make house calls if necessary and expedite all those sinners on their way to hell. I would be an "EOH", equal opportunity hangman.
#44. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Armed insurrection is not now an option. They killed about 3000 on 9/11 to take away our rights and start wars against any nation they label a terrorist nation. No armed insurrection over that has occurred yet, so I really doubt people are going to now fight over voter fraud, which has gone on since this country started.
The evidence is accumulating and we can now know with some degree of certitude that the results of the Iowa Caucus and the New Hampshire Primary were rigged.
God is always good!
#45. To: RickyJ (#44)
9-11 was traumatic, clouded in mystery, covered-up, and distorted. The masters of confusion have been twisting our heads off for thousands of years without much resistance. I think the appropriate response to these motherfuckers awaits them around the corner and in the near future. I'd like to improve upon Pat Henry's remarks, "Give us liberty and give them death" ... you can quote me ! Let's all do our part to restore some dignity to our fallen state.
No armed insurrection over that has occurred yet, so I really doubt people are going to now fight over voter fraud, which has gone on since this country started.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... Doug Scheidt 1-10-08
#46. To: Original_Intent (#0)
This is a new interview with Paul by Laura Engreman(SP). Paul just destroys her.
Mark
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
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