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Title: BUSH/CONGRESS MURDERING AMERICA'S TROOPS WITH DEPLEATED URANIUM VET'S SUE EM!!
Source: clifylq.livejournal
URL Source: http://clifylq.livejournal.com/
Published: Jan 10, 2008
Author: clifylq
Post Date: 2008-01-10 10:00:45 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 320
Comments: 10


http://clifylq.livejournal.com/64705.html

We might have to create an ADOPT A VETERAN program where families with means are helping to pay for the medical needs of these soldiers. The Red Cross raised over $1 billion for the tsunami victims and their plight pales in comparison to this DU contamination catastrophe. Americans sent hundreds of millions for the tsunami relief fund and it is now time to make some of that American giving count here at home for Americans.


http://clifylq.livejournal.com/74600.html

DEPLEATED URANIUM - US LUNG CANCER RATES SOAR

From Karl W B Schwarz kwbschwarz2@snet.net 3-9-6

SO, WHAT IS THE PLAN?

On the March 8, 2006 edition of the CNN American Morning program with Miles O'Brien and Soledad O'Brien, they made a startling announcement. On average there are 175,000 new cases of lung cancer each year in the United States. For just the months of January and February 2006 there are 172,000 confirmed, newly diagnosed cases of lung cancer. This is not just a little spike on the charts and much worse news is coming. That is already averaging this year about 6 times the normal incidence of new lung cancer cases in a year.

They tried to attribute it to second hand smoke, but second hand smoke and cigarettes are nothing compared to being exposed to Depleted Uranium ("DU") and particulates created by DU explosions. You can smoke for 30 years and not do the damage that DU can do to you in 30 days.

How long does it take to get lung cancer after being exposed to DU and nano-particulates? On average 2-5 years is the correct answer. We started bombing Afghanistan in October 2001 or four and a half years ago. We started bombing Iraq again in March 2003, or just shy of three years ago.

The effects of those bombing attacks were registered as far away as the UK according to the Aldermaston Report we and others released February 19, 2006. We do not know yet what was registered in the U.S. because the U.S. government is not saying and they definitely do not want you to know.

The link between DU exposure and lung cancer has been known for many years. The correlation between DU and lung cancer versus cigarettes and lung cancer is even stronger for DU.

They are making plans right now to bomb Iran, even knowing full well that they will be spreading more nuclear pollution.
livejournal.com/18222.html

HERE ARE THE ACTION ITEMS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN:

1. MEDICAL INTERVENTION INSTEAD OF MEDICAL NEGLECT. We (Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC) are in discussions with multiple parties to quickly address the medical treatment needs of the veterans that have been exposed to DU and derivative nano-particulates. That will require a lab unlike any medical lab in the United States due to what it is testing for and developing treatment regimens.

We will be putting out a call to raise funds to provide the needed travel, lodging and treatment for the veterans. Since Patmos is already aligned with a hospital and a group of doctors, and several key players in the heavy metal detoxification area, our emphasis on biotech will be re-shifted to be one of addressing the sheer medical needs of the veterans including treatment for heavy metal toxicity, DU detoxification and developing a wide range of options to deal with the many problems the troops are having. If the US government will not do it, we shall and we shall be asking Americans to do the right thing and help out.

We are also establishing a DU Detoxification Center in the Atlanta area and will be expediting the treatment to veterans that our military is trying to avoid. Lives are at stake as well as quality of life. What got my attention focused on this matter is how many of our young healthy soldiers come home and are fundamentally fully disabled and the government ignoring that for to do otherwise would be an admission of guilt and creating a paper trail of evidence that leads up to and includes criminal conduct. This is not just a civil matter.

We might have to create an ADOPT A VETERAN program where families with means are helping to pay for the medical needs of these soldiers. The Red Cross raised over $1 billion for the tsunami victims and their plight pales in comparison to this DU contamination catastrophe. Americans sent hundreds of millions for the tsunami relief fund and it is now time to make some of that American giving count here at home for Americans.


Bush/Israel Are Murdering Us With DU America
livejournal.com/12378.html

Many of our troops need our help. If they do not receive help, many will spend the rest of their lives disabled or will die much sooner than God had intended.

Where they do not have the financial means, we are going to ask Americans to make it happen.

If you can provide funds in general or sponsor a specific veteran for the treatments, you may be saving their life and ultimately your own.

We already have contingency plans that if the U.S. government tries to bar us from treating the soldiers they are intentionally neglecting, for fear of creating an evidence trail, there are several places offshore where the treatments will be offered and the logistics to get it done.

The team we are assembling includes a hospital, specialist doctors, a new biotech center Patmos will build, firms that have detoxification treatments already that are proving to be very effective, and a lab that can detect not only molecules but nano-particulates too. This DU problem will require the services of laboratories, the medical specialties of endocrinology, internal medicine, neurology, urology, gastroenterology, oncology, and others.

Most of all, Patmos has already developed several technologies that may prove to be very useful in addressing what has been done to our soldiers and all of us. We are tired of talking about it and waiting in vain for Washington, DC to do something right for a change. It is time for action.

AS SOME SAY, IT IS LEAD, FOLLOW OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY TIME.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Many of our troops need our help. If they do not receive help, many will spend the rest of their lives disabled or will die much sooner than God had intended.

Where they do not have the financial means, we are going to ask Americans to make it happen.

No. Absolutely not.

This is the payment made by mercenaries for their acceptance of benefits for war. It is only when the problem becomes unmanageable that the fools will stop voluntering; nothing else seems to be able to wake them up.

I would propose, instead, that more politicians/attorneys/bureaucrats be invited to visit Iraq, for extended briefings and work with the 'Iraqi government.' And please, start with Condi. Seems like a much more sensible solution.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-10   10:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, *Depleted Uranium* (#0)

Haven't heard much about this lately.

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The Revolution will not be televised!

robin  posted on  2008-01-10   10:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: richard9151 (#1) (Edited)

Many of our troops need our help. If they do not receive help, many will spend the rest of their lives disabled or will die much sooner than God had intended.

Where they do not have the financial means, we are going to ask Americans to make it happen.

If you can provide funds in general or sponsor a specific veteran for the treatments, you may be saving their life and ultimately your own. ......

Most of all, Patmos has already developed several technologies that may prove to be very useful in addressing what has been done to our soldiers and all of us. We are tired of talking about it and waiting in vain for Washington, DC to do something right for a change. It is time for action.

AS SOME SAY, IT IS LEAD, FOLLOW OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY TIME.

This is only the begining

Thank God!!!

Mic 4:13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people [please see #2 greatreddragon.com/preface.htm ]: and I will consecrate their [ILL-GOTTEN] gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/c...4&verse=13&version=KJV#13

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mic/4/13.html

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-10   11:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: richard9151, Itisalmosttoolate (#3)

sorry, meant to direct that one to Itisalmosttoolate]

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-10   11:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Anyone have any numbers on the amount of military 'over there' that goes AWOL every day?

Where would they go if they did, anyway? I suspect one of these days we're going to wake up and realize 100,000+ are dead or are dying.

_______  posted on  2008-01-10   11:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: richard9151 (#1) (Edited)

Many of our troops need our help. If they do not receive help, many will spend the rest of their lives disabled or will die much sooner than God had intended.

Where they do not have the financial means, we are going to ask Americans to make it happen.

===============================

No. Absolutely not.

This is the payment made by mercenaries for their acceptance of benefits for war. It is only when the problem becomes unmanageable that the fools will stop voluntering; nothing else seems to be able to wake them up.

back up...

....How long does it take to get lung cancer after being exposed to DU and nano-particulates? On average 2-5 years is the correct answer. We started bombing Afghanistan in October 2001 or four and a half years ago. We started bombing Iraq again in March 2003, or just shy of three years ago.

The effects of those bombing attacks were registered as far away as the UK according to the Aldermaston Report we and others released February 19, 2006. We do not know yet what was registered in the U.S. because the U.S. government is not saying and they definitely do not want you to know.

The link between DU exposure and lung cancer has been known for many years. The correlation between DU and lung cancer versus cigarettes and lung cancer is even stronger for DU.

They are making plans right now to bomb Iran, even knowing full well that they will be spreading more nuclear pollution.......

If you can provide funds in general or sponsor a specific veteran for the treatments, you may be saving their life and ultimately your own.....

Most of all, Patmos has already developed several technologies that may prove to be very useful in addressing what has been done to our soldiers and all of us.

===================================================

what about the rest of us, richard....what about the babies of the Iraqi people and those of the Iraqi vets.... are they guilty for the sins of their fathers? http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/24/16.html What about the children of the whole world....do you have children, richard?

" Horror Of US Depleted Uranium In Iraq Threatens World

American Use Of DU is "A crime against humanity which may, in the eyes of historians, rank with the worst atrocities of all time." US Iraq Military Vets "are on DU death row, waiting to die."

By James Denver 4-29-5

"I'm horrified. The people out there - the Iraqis, the media and the troops - risk the most appalling ill health. And the radiation from depleted uranium can travel literally anywhere. It's going to destroy the lives of thousands of children, all over the world. We all know how far radiation can travel. Radiation from Chernobyl reached Wales and in Britain you sometimes get red dust from the Sahara on your car."

The speaker is not some alarmist doom-sayer. He is Dr. Chris Busby, the British radiation expert, Fellow of the University of Liverpool in the Faculty of Medicine and UK representative on the European Committee on Radiation Risk, talking about the best-kept secret of this war: the fact that, by illegally using hundreds of tons of depleted uranium (DU) against Iraq, Britain and America have gravely endangered not only the Iraqis but the whole world.

For these weapons have released deadly, carcinogenic and mutagenic, radioactive particles in such abundance that-whipped up by sandstorms and carried on trade winds - there is no corner of the globe they cannot penetrate-including Britain. For the wind has no boundaries and time is on their side: the radioactivity persists for over 4,500,000,000 years and can cause cancer, leukemia, brain damage, kidney failure, and extreme birth defects - killing millions of every age for centuries to come. A crime against humanity which may, in the eyes of historians, rank with the worst atrocities of all time.

These weapons have released deadly, carcinogenic and mutagenic, radioactive particles in such abundance that there is no corner of the globe they cannot penetrate - including Britain. Yet, officially, no crime has been committed. For this story is a dirty story in which the facts have been concealed from those who needed them most. It is also a story we need to know if the people of Iraq are to get the medical care they desperately need, and if our troops, returning from Iraq, are not to suffer as terribly as the veterans of other conflicts in which depleted uranium was used.

A Dirty Tyson

'Depleted' uranium is in many ways a misnomer. For 'depleted' sounds weak. The only weak thing about depleted uranium is its price. It is dirt cheap, toxic, waste from nuclear power plants and bomb production. However, uranium is one of earth's heaviest elements and DU packs a Tyson's punch, smashing through tanks, buildings and bunkers with equal ease, spontaneously catching fire as it does so, and burning people alive. 'Crispy critters' is what US servicemen call those unfortunate enough to be close. And, when John Pilger encountered children killed at a greater distance he wrote: "The children's skin had folded back, like parchment, revealing veins and burnt flesh that seeped blood, while the eyes, intact, stared straight ahead. I vomited." (Daily Mirror)

The millions of radioactive uranium oxide particles released when it burns can kill just as surely, but far more terribly. They can even be so tiny they pass through a gas mask, making protection against them impossible. Yet, small is not beautiful. For these invisible killers indiscriminately attack men, women, children and even babies in the womb-and do the gravest harm of all to children and unborn babies.

A Terrible Legacy

Doctors in Iraq have estimated that birth defects have increased by 2-6 times, and 3-12 times as many children have developed cancer and leukaemia since 1991. Moreover, a report published in The Lancet in 1998 said that as many as 500 children a day are dying from these sequels to war and sanctions and that the death rate for Iraqi children under 5 years of age increased from 23 per 1000 in 1989 to 166 per thousand in 1993. Overall, cases of lymphoblastic leukemia more than quadrupled with other cancers also increasing 'at an alarming rate'. In men, lung, bladder, bronchus, skin, and stomach cancers showed the highest increase. In women, the highest increases were in breast and bladder cancer, and non-Hodgkin lymphoma.1

On hearing that DU had been used in the Gulf in 1991, the UK Atomic Energy Authority sent the Ministry of Defense a special report on the potential damage to health and the environment. It said that it could cause half a million additional cancer deaths in Iraq over 10 years. In that war the authorities only admitted to using 320 tons of DU-although the Dutch charity LAKA estimates the true figure is closer to 800 tons. Many times that may have been spread across Iraq by this year's war. The devastating damage all this DU will do to the health and fertility of the people of Iraq now, and for generations to come, is beyond imagining.

The radioactivity persists for over 4,500,000,000 years killing millions of every age for centuries to come. This is a crime against humanity which may rank with the worst atrocities of all time.

We must also count the numberless thousands of miscarried babies. Nobody knows how many Iraqis have died in the womb since DU contaminated their world. But it is suggested that troops who were only exposed to DU for the brief period of the war were still excreting uranium in their semen 8 years later and some had 100 times the so-called 'safe limit' of uranium in their urine. The lack of government interest in the plight of veterans of the 1991 war is reflected in a lack of academic research on the impact of DU but informal research has found a high incidence of birth defects in their children and that the wives of men who served in Iraq have three times more miscarriages than the wives of servicemen who did not go there.

Since DU darkened the land Iraq has seen birth defects which would break a heart of stone: babies with terribly foreshortened limbs, with their intestines outside their bodies, with huge bulging tumors where their eyes should be, or with a single eye-like Cyclops, or without eyes, or without limbs, and even without heads. Significantly, some of the defects are almost unknown outside textbooks showing the babies born near A-bomb test sites in the Pacific.

Doctors report that many women no longer say 'Is it a girl or a boy?' but simply, 'Is it normal, doctor?' Moreover this terrible legacy will not end. The genes of their parents may have been damaged for ever, and the damaging DU dust is ever-present.

Blue on Blue

What the governments of America and Britain have done to the people of Iraq they have also done to their own soldiers, in both wars. And they have done it knowingly. For the battlefields have been thick with DU and soldiers have had to enter areas heavily contaminated by bombing. Moreover, their bodies have not only been assaulted by DU but also by a vaccination regime which violated normal protocols, experimental vaccines, nerve agent pills, and organophosphate pesticides in their tents. Yet, though the hazards of DU were known, British and American troops were not warned of its dangers. Nor were they given thorough medical checks on their return-even though identifying it quickly might have made it possible to remove some of it from their body. Then, when a growing number became seriously ill, and should have been sent to top experts in radiation damage and neurotoxins, many were sent to a psychiatrist.

Over 200,000 US troops who returned from the 1991 war are now invalided out with ailments officially attributed to service in Iraq-that's 1 in 3. In contrast, the British government's failure to fully assess the health of returning troops, or to monitor their health, means no one even knows how many have died or become gravely ill since their return. However, Gulf veterans' associations say that, of 40,000 or so fighting fit men and women who saw active service, at least 572 have died prematurely since coming home and 5000 may be ill. An alarming number are thought to have taken their own lives, unable to bear the torment of the innumerable ailments which have combined to take away their career, their sexuality, their ability to have normal children, and even their ability to breathe or walk normally. As one veteran puts it, they are 'on DU death row, waiting to die'.

Whatever other factors there may be, some of their illnesses are strikingly similar to those of Iraqis exposed to DU dust. For example, soldiers have also fathered children without eyes. And, in a group of eight servicemen whose babies lack eyes seven are known to have been directly exposed to DU dust.

They too have fathered children with stunted arms, and rare abnormalities classically associated with radiation damage. They too seem prone to cancer and leukemia. Tellingly, so are EU soldiers who served as peacekeepers in the Balkans, where DU was also used. Indeed their leukemia rate has been so high that several EU governments have protested at the use of DU. ....."

http://www.rense.com/general64/du.htm

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-10   11:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: _______ (#5)

Where would they go if they did, anyway? I suspect one of these days we're going to wake up and realize 100,000+ are dead or are dying.

Where would they go if they did, anyway? I suspect one of these days we're going to wake up and realize 100,000+ 500,000+ are dead or are dying.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-10   12:02:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

what about the rest of us, richard....what about the babies of the Iraqi people and those of the Iraqi vets.... are they guilty for the sins of their fathers? http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/24/16.html What about the children of the whole world....do you have children, richard?

What are you talking about?

I answered a specific question; nothing more. It was about THE IRAQI VETS.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-10   12:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: richard9151 (#8)

Bush/Israel Are Murdering Us With DU America livejournal.com/12378.html

Many of our troops need our help. If they do not receive help, many will spend the rest of their lives disabled or will die much sooner than God had intended.

Where they do not have the financial means, we are going to ask Americans to make it happen.

If you can provide funds in general or sponsor a specific veteran for the treatments, you may be saving their life and ultimately your own.

We already have contingency plans that if the U.S. government tries to bar us from treating the soldiers they are intentionally neglecting, for fear of creating an evidence trail, there are several places offshore where the treatments will be offered and the logistics to get it done.

The team we are assembling includes a hospital, specialist doctors, a new biotech center Patmos will build, firms that have detoxification treatments already that are proving to be very effective, and a lab that can detect not only molecules but nano-particulates too. This DU problem will require the services of laboratories, the medical specialties of endocrinology, internal medicine, neurology, urology, gastroenterology, oncology, and others.

Most of all, Patmos has already developed several technologies that may prove to be very useful in addressing what has been done to our soldiers and all of us.

you said:

Many of our troops need our help. If they do not receive help, many will spend the rest of their lives disabled or will die much sooner than God had intended.

Where they do not have the financial means, we are going to ask Americans to make it happen.

No. Absolutely not.

This is the payment made by mercenaries for their acceptance of benefits for war.

right, and Let their kids eat cake, pun intended.

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-10   13:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9)

right, and Let their kids eat cake, pun intended.

I never said a word about their children, and, the post did not as well.

But since you brought the subject up, what about their children? The men, and women, who are killing the people in Iraq (and elsewhere; not just in the Middle East) made a choice to serve the beast; generally speaking, they are teaching their children to do the same.

Until you break the chain tying those families to the beast, nothing will change. And, when you help them to avoid the consequences of their actions, and teach their families that their actions are condoned by their peers, well, you figure the rest out.

I have never supported the war in Iraq; I DO NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS THAT ARE PROPAGATING THAT WAR. I have said this before, and will say it again. How do you speak against the war, but support those who pursue it? That is talking out of both sides of your mouth; I do not do such things.

That so-called support for the troops is hypocracy, and is one of the main reasons that the people of America will, indeed, get what they deserve from the New World Order. It demonstartes an inability to separate fact from fiction; I can be against the war, but still revere those who fight in it. How silly.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-11   9:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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