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#389. To: palo verde (#387)
I don't argue with hubby, I figure he is free to see it his way, I am free to see it my way Palo Verde the Apostate. Your new handle. Sounds pretty good, huh?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" In my picture of it, they're whipping out the Thee's and Thou's, ye's and yea's. They would not say such things as, you are a dumb*ss. They would say, Thou behavest akin a mule with mad fever. Sort of. And then the guys behind him would laugh, and say, what a blowhard. :) LOL!! I don't think people talk weird just bec. they are in Heaven now, and no longer in the world lol if Heaven were boring no one could stand it
Nite all.
We do lotto math every day. Balancing the books at our Liquor Store. We dont buy lotto tickets. Even tho my wife sold a $100,000 winner a two years ago.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" loathesome creature..and who did he say won?
lol if Heaven were boring no one could stand it I am sure it is a lot of fun Palo, I'll wait for a communique'. Just in case.. LOL!! I'm not talking 'pristine', but more in the 'tidy' arena. ;) Nite Palo!
Sounds pretty good, huh? what does apostate mean? my hubby is very new to watching politics now he watches CNN, when there is no game on so far he likes Hillary Clinton, he likes John McCain, and he like Ron Paul does the Bible say I am supposed to give up supporting Ron Paul 100 percent I'm just kiddin' around here, I don't want to get anyone mad Love, Palo O I forgot Hillary is now off the list, he found out she doesn't respect 2nd Amendment Rights,
I'm Officially Burned-Out on the 2008 Presidential election, these pseudo- Republican turds give me a headache. I'm ready to vote for Ron Paul. I'm going to fix a single-malt Scotch whiskey on a couple of rocks and see if that helps my outlook....
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
even tho Carl asked both of them those questions to put them on the spot so what? It wouldn't be wrong if Carl Cameron asked all candidates those same type of "cheap shot" questions - ie. questions on matters that have zip zero to do with issues important to voters. On the list of issues ranked as important to US voters, I have never seen 9/11 truthers or New Testament verses included. Since Carl Cameron did not ask cheap shot meaningless questions of all the candidates - only with RP and Huckabee - then this becomes important because Fox is abusing its media powers to purposefully de-select Pres candidates Fox doesn't like. That's not fair or right. Aren't these TV stations using public air waves ie. public property in the course of running their businesses? Media should not abuse what we The People allow them to use gratis.
LOL!!
I thought it was a great debate your points are all well-taken when Carl asked Mike that, I giggled apparently both men answered the hard question well Love, Palo
you are right I had the oddest thought after watching the debate and I thought, "it is amazing, the saving of our country depends on him..."
True - both men handled the questions well - maybe, we here think everything went well. But how many in the viewing audience across America now have seeded in their minds that Ron Paul=9/11 truther fringe group and Mike Huckabee=Bible thumper misogynist??? I think what Fox did tonight was unforgiveable, not unexpected, but unforgiveable.
I'll tell ya all something interesting I haven't mentioned it before on thread, because I don't have an idea of what it means (if it is bad or good?) does anyone have a comment or perception on this? Love, Palo he didn't come across as insecure, I hope I am not giving that impression
my experience is that it will definitely help your outlook. but I would not advise thinking that somehow the people are going to make everything 'right' in our country through the election process or through any process. the people of this earth have never accomplished anything of significance unless their creator led them to it. If divine providence does not shine on us now, then none of our efforts will pay off. might as well follow up your scotch with a 2'nd one.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
loathesome creature..and who did he say won? Hannity didn't make any comment who won, just that Ron Paul was the ultimate loser tonight.
does anyone have a comment or perception on this? Love, Palo he didn't come across as insecure, I hope I am not giving that impression but conciliatory, maybe that is the word? I think you perceived it correctly - not pushy but nonetheless putting his ideas out there for others to consider - remember - especially tonight - he's was facing a none too friendly group of Fox news staff asking questions as well as competitive GOP colleagues. And tonight for the first time I noticed McCain and Mittster were openly laughing at Dr. Paul whenever he spoke, appearing to be dismissive of his remarks. The other candidates thankfully were polite and did not emulate the actions of the 2 swaggering punks. I had not noticed that happen in previous debates. McCain must be feeling flush with victory from NH as though that means anything - McCain always wins in NH and then nose-dives thereafter. I don't get where Mittster got his wise-ass smirking arrogance towards Dr. Paul tonight - it's not like Mittster has wowed people in Iowa or NH. For all the personal $ Mittster has poured into losing campaigns in Iowa and NH, it should be Dr. Paul smirking at him.
the question was asked it wasn't a very nice queston to ask Ron Paul that Gomer asked either bottom line I think both men came out ahead from the unpleasant questions jmho
Yeah, riggghttt, and why are we not surprised? I don't get Hannity's popularity. He doesn't even have a college degree. He was some kind of carpenter or painter in Santa Barbara when he was "discovered." What friggin' academic credentials does he have to be an political news analyst? He probably has not read the constitution ever or a college level US history or political science textbook. And now I noticed he's no longer a pretty news desk hair-do - he's become rather rotund.
I'll let it rest. You're probably right. They did well so why be angry or why worry? Maybe I'm getting too overly sensitive to media attempting to take away our choices, that's all. Nitey-nite, palo.
Hannity would not understand them even if he read them.
(Scrapper) not pushy but nonetheless putting his ideas out there for others to consider - remember - especially tonight - he's was facing a none too friendly group of Fox news staff asking questions as well as competitive GOP colleagues. not pushy but nonetheless putting his ideas out there for others to consider brilliant Scrapper, exactly you got it! this is perfect then, no? O I didn't know they were being openly dismissive, then it makes it even more appropriate that Ron Paul spoke that way because it communicates, "others may laugh at this, but this is how I see it..." it was a nice way to keep his equilibirum and continue to communicate effectively, no?
sweet dreams, darling
This is how much NH loves Spammity... Foreign Policy, Recession-Proofing the U.S. Dominate GOP Debate in South Carolina
No, I haven't. Bet it's good ! I quit hunting innocent animals ... and am inclined to save my ammo for federal critters and pests.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... Doug Scheidt 1-10-08
Original Greek for a rebellious or runaway slave. Now its use is to rebel or deviate from accepted views, religion or common beliefs.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Ron Paul comes across as feeble with his "conciliatory" tone. People seeing him for the first time don't get an impression of inner strength. His campaign is misguided, it appears.
Live free or die.
that is very interesting Tom, thank you I wish you a wonderful day, Tom
Road trip to southern Arizona.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I agree with you totally regarding the attempt to reduce Huckabuck to ashes with the question of wives submitting. I further agree that he answered it perfectly; yes, it is sound Biblical teaching. He gave Cameron a boot in his sorry, scrawny ass with his answer. Cameron was there to be the pit bull........and wound up just a damned yapping poodle [sorry poodles, I don't mean to offend y'all, but I have to have something]. Forgot to say this, too: I agree totally as it regards an equal playing field for every single candidate whether I agree with them or not. Thus far, we've not seen a fair playing field.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
While the media and Fox News "focus group" didn't think too highly of Republican US Presidential candidate Ron Paul, the response by the audience during Fox's South Carolina debate suggested otherwise. He received more applause than any other candidate bar none....not to mention zero boos. ...Ron Paul knocked them dead in this debate. He did not miss a beat (even the "I can't hear you, you need to speak up" to the moderator attacking him was pretty potent) and he's going to get votes after this one. It was by far his best performance, and one of the best performances of anyone in any debate. People who do not necessarily support Ron Paul were wowed by him. ....The knockout punch came when Paul was asked - laughingly - by one of the moderators if he really thought he could be elected, Paul lashed back that he should be embraced by conservatives and suggested he was one of the most representative of the Republican party.
Live free or die.
Did anyone think it was awfully suspicious re: one of the questions to Dr. Paul regarding Iranian gunboats...how at the end of Dr. Paul's reply that Brit Hume said "well no one here is advocationg war as you suggest they are doing - they all said diplomacy first" and then Dr. Paul said "well maybe tonight they have softened their tone but they and many in DC - both parties - are looking for a chance to attack Iran." Then Brit Hume said something else and everyone started to laugh in the audience as well as those 2 breying donkeys, McCain and Romney, and Dr. Paul looked confused and then he said "I'm sorry, I couldn't hear what you said. I couldn't hear what you said. Could you repeat it?" And at that point the laughter became stronger. Unfortunately it was not a good moment for Dr. Paul. Because he could not hear Brit Hume's comments (for whatever reason) he looked a bit out of it. Do you any of you guys think that FOX News cut Dr. Paul's audio on purpose???? Or do you think it was only that the laughter drowned Brit Hume's remarks to Dr. Paul. Maybe I am getting too paranoid about MSM's "tricks." Postscript: angle, you and I posted at the same time - I see that you refer to the situation I describe here and you believe RP looked great. Okay - good - maybe I was wrong to perceive it as a dicey moment for RP.
I don't know from anything, but, I think the goon tactics are going to backfire.
Tag Line For Rent (M, 48, NY)
But you are correct.........lousy questions the others didn't get. Instead they got to 'strut and preen' as they expounded on their philosophy regarding policies of import to the nation and the world. Why not ask Dr. Paul about the federal reserve's effect on monetary policy.......why not follow up on his claim that we're borrowing money from China. Why were there not questions regarding Julie's style in dresses, or wigs? Why not questions about why the citizens of NY should be paying for security for his bimbo-soon-to-be- wife.....is this behaviour we can expect in the WH, a la Kennedy and Clinton? Why not the big question on why 100 years of war..........or 50 years of Korea troop placement to Comrade Commander POW? Why not ask Lurch why he thinks his acting credentials make him electable? Or exactly what was it he did in the Senate that made him 'presidential' material. Why no questions to Pompadour about HIS religion? Or his dog traveling experiences--let Peta and dog lovers get a load of that crap. Nah..........let's try to knock out the best candidate, the one with a true grasp of what the hell is happening to this nation, and then knock out any evangelical support==make them out to be less than some tree lover's nature god or whatever the hell it. Wasting time on these bullshit questions is not only meant to be demeaning, it eliminates the time spent to provide legit answers to legit questions--can't have the sheeple any too wise now, can we.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
Oh yeah........I loved the 'i can't hear you' moment. And absolutely his answer for electability was perfect........because it is the truth.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
no it wasn't deliberate This is how I saw it Please feel free to see it differently
Just becasue you're paranoid doesn't mean you're not correct. you believe RP looked great I was quoting an article. I don't think he looked like a strong capable leader.
Live free or die.
I am very grateful for this FOX debate last night in South Carolina I have been walking on air since the debate Love, Palo buckeye, I wish I could communicate why I see it all I can say is I understood the missing half (for me) in the picture
Why not ask Dr. Paul about the federal reserve's effect on monetary policy.......why not follow up on his claim that we're borrowing money from China. Why were there not questions regarding Julie's style in dresses, or wigs? Why not questions about why the citizens of NY should be paying for security for his bimbo-soon-to-be- wife.....is this behaviour we can expect in the WH, a la Kennedy and Clinton? Why not the big question on why 100 years of war..........or 50 years of Korea troop placement to Comrade Commander POW? Why not ask Lurch why he thinks his acting credentials make him electable? Or exactly what was it he did in the Senate that made him 'presidential' material. Why no questions to Pompadour about HIS religion? Or his dog traveling experiences--let Peta and dog lovers get a load of that crap. Nah..........let's try to knock out the best candidate, the one with a true grasp of what the hell is happening to this nation, and then knock out any evangelical support==make them out to be less than some tree lover's nature god or whatever the hell it. Wasting time on these bullshit questions is not only meant to be demeaning, it eliminates the time spent to provide legit answers to legit questions--can't have the sheeple any too wise now, can we. Excellent observations about the uneven playing field that Fox News created for RP and Huckabee versus Fox's "chosen" in order of preference from top to bottom McCain was Rupert Murdoch's choice for GOP Pres candidate or so it seemed to me, followed by The Mittster, then Thompson and JulieJudy. I think Fox News staff might have been a bit surprised that Thompson the Actor may have edged out their first 2 annointed favorites. I was not paying much attention to Thompson's questions or responses. Thompson in the past always looks so bored and unanimated about politics, I've never taken him seriously from the start. It puzzles me why Thompson even bothered to throw his hat into the ring - maybe his ambitious wife twisted his arm? Whatever... I do remember that Thompson was classy with regards to how he listened to Dr. Paul's responses - Thompson is very tall so he is an eye catcher and he did not leer or guffaw at all that I could see like the impolite punks - McCrazy and Pompadour.
Yes, this is a regular aspect of Ron Paul's comportment during verbally confrontational segments of debates. It may relate to the cross talk, applause, and as you say — laughter/booing. I think he is hard of hearing, and is cautious about overreacting, so he seeks clarification before he makes a response when he can't hear precisely what is spoken. I see nothing wrong with this, but would not be surprised if other younger people are taken aback by it. The campaign may want to invest in a hearing check for the good doctor himself, and possibly acquire advanced technology hearing aids for him. Losing the acuity of his hearing clearly has nothing to do with senility. He's a senior, and his age and wisdom are too valuable to diminish because he appears to lack youthful ears. We should be proud that our candidate waits to respond in anger when he is not clear on what has been said. He clearly controls himself well when provoked. Once he is elected, we can bet that he will be provoked many times by challengers foreign and domestic.
I just think equality makes sense
#390. To: Peppa (#385)
In Heaven, there's no reason to cuss.
they might still enjoy salty language
I am sure it is a lot of fun
#391. To: all (#389)
#392. To: Mekons4 (#388)
I'd love it if every lottery ticket I bought was a winner. There is a reason why I don't buy lottery tickets. I am good at math.
#393. To: TwentyTwelve (#379)
Hannity just said that he thought that Ron Paul lost the debate big time.
#394. To: palo verde (#390)
I don't think people talk weird just bec. they are in Heaven now, and no longer in the world they might still enjoy salty language
#395. To: tom007 (#389)
Palo Verde the Apostate. Your new handle.
he is a passionate devoted sports fan, that has been his whole life
(he heard about Ron Paul from me)
and go over to Bill's perception
wouldn't I be an idiot to do that
does the Bible think wimmin are idiots
sometimes it is fun to laugh
which Bill believes in 100 percent
I wonder if I should tell him John McCain introduced a gun control bill in the Senate back in 2001?
#396. To: _______ (#0)
#397. To: palo verde (#387)
but I didn't think it was wrong for Carl to ask Ron Paul about the truthers either
#398. To: Peppa (#394)
you are wonderful
I love you
sweet dreams
Palo
#399. To: scrapper2 (#397)
I am very grateful to FOX for it
but I'm not mad about it
maybe something is wrong with me?
and when Carl asked Ron that, I had sharp intake of breath
but it never crossed my mind to get mad
so that is good!
they came out ahead from it...
#400. To: tom007 (#384)
RP is the only guy that sees where our current policies are going to bring us to.
Ron Paul was so humble, so not arrogant one tiny bit
such a normal modest man
#401. To: palo verde (#399)
apparently both men answered the hard question well so that is good! they came out ahead from it...
#402. To: All (#400)
most of the time when Ron Paul talked he shrugged his shoulders as he talked
his body language is the opposite of all the others
my first thought was, "if I were talking to someone, and trying to communicate,
"and knew they didn't see it as I did, but I wanted to say my piece anyway
"I would shrug my shoulders too as I talked"
it's a way not to be pushy in someone's face
but conciliatory, maybe that is the word?
#403. To: X-15 (#396)
I'm going to fix a single-malt Scotch whiskey on a couple of rocks and see if that helps my outlook....
#404. To: christine (#393)
Hannity just said that he thought that Ron Paul lost the debate big time.
#405. To: palo verde, All (#402)
it's a way not to be pushy in someone's face
#406. To: scrapper2 (#401)
both men answered
I think people's percepton of them will be based on their answers
not on the questions
as I said maybe there is something wrong with me
because you are angry about this
and I am not
and your posts are so logical
"what makes you think you are even electable?"
but again I am glad Ron Paul had an opportunity to answer it
and I still think it wasn't a crime, because it caught people's interest
they really listened hard to those answers
and as a result got to know both men better
Love, Palo
#407. To: TwentyTwelve (#404)
Hannity didn't make any comment who won, just that Ron Paul was the ultimate loser tonight.
#408. To: palo verde (#406)
#409. To: scrapper2 (#407)
He (Hannity) probably has not read the constitution ever or a college level US history or political science textbook.
#410. To: scrapper2 (#405)
(Palo) it's a way not to be pushy in someone's face
Ron Paul didn't come across as insecure, I hope I am not giving that impression
but conciliatory, maybe that is the word?
does anyone have a comment or perception on this?
And tonight for the first time I noticed McCain and Mittster were openly laughing at Dr. Paul whenever he spoke,
appearing to be dismissive of his remarks.
The other candidates thankfully were polite and did not emulate the actions of the 2 swaggering punks.
#411. To: scrapper2 (#408)
Nitey-nite, palo
Love, Palo
#412. To: scrapper2 (#407)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#413. To: scrapper2, FOH, FormerLurker, wudidiz, critter (#408)
#414. To: rowdee (#306)
#415. To: palo verde (#395)
what does apostate mean?
#416. To: scrapper2 (#405)
#417. To: tom007 (#415)
I think you had a flash of insight, it does describe me
I am happy being on a forum with you again
All my love, Palo
#418. To: palo verde (#417)
All my love, Palo
#419. To: scrapper2 (#382)
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#420. To: rowdee, tom007, all (#419)
The Ron Paul Knockout in South Carolina www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-011208.html
#421. To: rowdee, palo verde, tom007, TwentyTwelve, angle, Uncle Bill, buckeye, critter (#419)
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#422. To: scrapper2 (#421)
#423. To: scrapper2 (#408)
#424. To: angle (#420)
#425. To: scrapper2 (#421)
Do you any of you guys think that FOX News cut Dr. Paul's audio on purpose???? Or do you think it was only that the laughter drowned Brit Hume's remarks to Dr. Paul. Maybe I am getting too paranoid about MSM's "tricks."
those commercials come on automatically
it is Brit's job to be aware of it, and say "we are going to break for commercial now"
somehow everyone was too caught up in what Ron Paul was saying, and forgot to say, "we break for commercial now"
Commercial came on automatically
I was watching it all like a hawk
Love, Palo
#426. To: scrapper2 (#421)
Maybe I am getting too paranoid about MSM's "tricks."
#427. To: All, buckeye (#425)
because I woke up this morning realizing the inevitability of the Ron Paul Presidency
for first time I saw a whole picture
and what the whole picture showed me was the inevitability of the Ron Paul Presidency
I see it all differently now
but it did not come to me as a rssult of sucessive logical thoughts
I just saw it and KNEW it, all at same time
hopefully my logical mind will catch up with it, and I can explain it
and now I see it whole
#428. To: rowdee, All (#423)
(Edited)
But you are correct.........lousy questions the others didn't get. Instead they got to 'strut and preen' as they expounded on their philosophy regarding policies of import to the nation and the world.
#429. To: scrapper2, Cynicom, palo verde (#421)
(Edited)
Unfortunately it was not a good moment for Dr. Paul. Because he could not hear Brit Hume's comments (for whatever reason) he looked a bit out of it.
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