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Title: 2012: END OF THE 5TH SUN
Source: Surfing The Apocalypse
URL Source: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=79949
Published: Jun 13, 2005
Author: Will Hart
Post Date: 2005-06-18 21:35:02 by timetobuildaboat
Keywords: 2012:
Views: 53
Comments: 4

Certain aspects of the interlocking Maya calendar system have filtered into public consciousness in the last decade and a half. One of them is the prediction that we will come to the end of a solar-planetary cycle in 2012. But what is this cycle exactly and why is it going to end on the winter solstice of that auspicious year? Is the world going to end as some people are forecasting?

The Maya conceived of time and human history as moving in cycles, small and large. While we use a single calendar to keep track of our annual solar circuit and to mark all of the important days within a year, the Maya used a variety of calendars. The array included a 365-day solar calendar; a 260-day sacred calendar and a Long Count calendar that operated something like an odometer with a zero start date. Unlike the other calendars the Long Count clocked linear time and was programmed to stop after 5,125 years elapsed.

The Long Count was begun at the onset of this current cycle, known as the 5th Sun, in 3114 BC. It will clock the required number of years to complete a full cycle of five suns on December 21, 2012. John Major Jenkins has made the case that this date corresponds to two major alignments, (one between the winter solstice sun and the galactic equator; the other an approximate one between solstice sun and galactic core) and it also completes the Great Zodiac precession cycle of 26,000 years. I am not questioning this thesis however I do wonder if that is all there is to the end of this solar cycle- the 5th Sun?

The Maya began their Long Count on what they referred to as the ‘Birth of Venus.’ Scholars have never been able to determine what the Maya were referring to and neither have alternative researchers. Nevertheless their sacred calendar, the Tzolkin, placed the synodic cycles of Venus in a central role. The 104-year ‘Venus Round’ cycle (2 Calendar Rounds of 52 years each), was a very important ceremonial event as this was the point in time when the solar and sacred calendars realigned with the cycle of Venus.

I need to insert an important numerical progression at this point to provide a basis for the rest of the article. The number thirteen was a root number for the Maya. It is both a prime number and the eighth number in the crucial Fibonacci series that is one source of the Golden Ratio, 1.618.

If we use 13 as the root of the Mayan calendar system we find the following sequence: 13, 26, 39, 52, 65, 78, 91 and 104, which are achieved by simply adding 13 to each succeeding sum. These are the key numbers in the Mayan calendrics and they have a solid scientific footing. Venus was the central component of the Mayan cosmology. It is for good reason that our nearest planetary neighbor is called earth’s sister planet. They have a phase-locked orbital cycle that is based on a 13:8 ratio. That is derived from the fact that Venus revolves around the sun 1.6 times faster than Earth so that 13 Venus revolutions is equal to 8 years.

Why is this important? By establishing Venus as the key component of the sacred calendar they automatically built the Golden Ratio (1.6) into the system since that ratio defines the difference

between the two planets orbital cycles. By using 13 as the root number they also included the crucial multiples, or powers, of thirteen - 13,000 and 26,000 - or half as well as the full number of years in the precession. We see that the 5 Suns, each lasting 5,125 years, also add up to the Great Zodiacal Year.

We can break these numbers down in different ways and each will show that there was nothing arbitrary about the Mayan system. We somewhat arrogantly disdain other cultures for being superstitious until we come to the number 13 and our own irrationality surfaces. But let’s examine how deeply embedded this number - as well as 26, 52 and 91 - are in our own calendar. Our year is divided into four seasons that are demarcated by the equinoxes and solstices.

Each of the four seasons is 91 days or 13 weeks long, which gives us a year of 52 weeks. We see the key Maya 13-base numerical progression reflected in our own calendar. Half of a year is 26 weeks. It is beyond the scope of this article to delve into all of the intricacies of the Mayan calendrical and mathematical systems; they were extremely adept in these fields.

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#1. To: All (#0)

One of them is the prediction that we will come to the end of a solar-planetary cycle in 2012

Graham Hancock's book 'Fingerprints of the Gods' talked about the same thing.

Earth crust displacement theory and precession was the theme of his book and it made a lot of sense. Scary though since based on the cycle of these things we are due for another "earth crust displacement" coming to a world near you.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-06-18   21:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: timetobuildaboat (#0)

It's all very interesting, but the NewAgers (and one particular poster who doesn't post on this forum) who await deus-ex-machina to save humanity better prepare themselves for the distinct possibility that NOTHING will occur as a result of this date coming and passing.

Time for plan B.

"War is the health of the state" --- Randolph Bourne

PnbC  posted on  2005-06-19   13:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PnbC (#2)

who await deus-ex-machina to save humanity better prepare themselves for the distinct possibility that NOTHING will occur as a result of this date coming and passing.

With Earth crust displacement having such a huge cycle time of something like 26,ooo years the plus or minus inherent in all cycles is large enough that it is very unlikely it will happen on the date given.

The cycle is caused by condensation of water vapor at the poles, thus over time adding a torsional strain to the earths crust via 2+ miles of ice covering Antarctica. The rotation of the Earth causes centriptital forces due to the asymmetrical nature of the land mass in the south or the north depending on which land mass was left near the poles after the last Earth crust displacement. This force grows stronger as the ice thickness increases to the point of literally causing the skin (crust) of the Earth to slide on the magma layer.

And yes, despite what is happening elsewhere the ice covering Antarctica is growing. One of the planes that landed there during an expedition years ago is now under ~120 feet of ice. Graham Hancock did his homework.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-06-19   14:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sourcery, Starwind (#0)

way-out-there ping

I find the idea of a helio-socionomics a fun one to think about, solar output being a possibly real exogenous force, unlike the state.


We'll split the threads. You can have chem trails, 911, and Bildeberg. I want gold bugs and racists.

Tauzero  posted on  2005-06-20   13:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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