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Title: Student protests district’s rejection of motto (Ruled unsuitible because it is derived from the Bible)
Source: Register Guard
URL Source: http://registerguard.com/csp/cms/si ... tory.cls?cid=48133&sid=1&fid=1
Published: Jan 12, 2008
Author: Karen McCowan
Post Date: 2008-01-12 15:52:14 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 247
Comments: 8

BLUE RIVER — Some senior class members at 90-student Mc­Kenzie High School thought they’d spotted a great class motto in a Bible verse quoted at the August funeral of a classmate killed in an all-­terrain vehicle accident.

But, even after the students deleted references to God, McKenzie School District officials rejected as too religious the motto: “They that believe shall mount up with wings as eagles.”

Class member Brianna Rux, 17, disagreed with the decision and wrote a guest opinion in Friday’s Register-Guard protesting it. In it, she said the verse seemed particularly fitting, given that class members have pulled together to rise above their grief and Mc­Kenzie High’s sports teams are known as “The Eagles.”

“Ourselves being Eagles, it seemed a good way to describe who we are that no matter what we believe in, we can overcome,” she said Friday.

She said the entire Bible verse — “They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings like eagles” — was read at the memorial service for Ryan Snapp. Snapp died Aug. 10 after hitting a tree in the alcohol-related crash.

“We modified it to take out anything that could be declared religious or would offend anyone in any way,” she said.

But even with the changes, the verse was recognizable as scriptural, McKenzie Superintendent Sally Storm said.

“In fact, we heard about it from the owner of the company that was going to publish our graduation announcements,” she said. “He called our office and told a secretary that they wanted to use a Bible verse.”

Storm said she called Bruce Zagar, the school district’s attorney, to get a legal opinion on the matter.

“I started to run it past him and he immediately said, ‘That’s Isaiah 40:31,’41;” she said. “My duty is to follow the law — in this case the U.S. Constitution, which doesn’t allow public schools to either interfere with the practice of religion or establish a religious practice.”

Zagar, reached Friday afternoon, said simply omitting “the Lord” from the verse “doesn’t alter where its origin is: the Old Testament, reflecting a Judeo-Christian background.”

In a formal opinion, he advised the district that both the U.S. and Oregon constitutions “prevent any public entity from taking any action which establishes, sponsors, supports or otherwise condones a particular religion or religious belief.”

Refusing to allow use of the verse doesn’t amount to interference with Judeo-Christian religious practice, he added, because it does not prevent students as individuals from exercising their religious beliefs.

McKenzie High School student body president Casey King said Friday that most members of the senior class have accepted the decision. The class adopted a replacement motto, he said: “Nothing we do changes the past; everything we do changes the future.”

Rux acknowledged the new slogan, but said she remains frustrated that school officials won’t even allow her to display the old one as a sign in the school’s gymnasium.

“They say it’s a black-and-white issue, but it’s not,” she said. “There’s a whole gray area. What’s the difference between this and our choir singing about Moses or our English class getting ready to read ‘The Poisonwood Bible,’ a story about missionaries in Africa?”

But Zagar said displaying the sign at school would raise the same problem as publishing the verse on graduation announcements: It would imply McKenzie’s sponsorship of a particular religious practice, something a public school cannot do as an agent of the government.

Storm said she told Rux that the verse would be “very appropriate” at a baccalaureate service — a privately sponsored religious ceremony organized by students and parents in some communities to mark the high school graduation milestone.

She added that she and other school officials have tried to make the controversy an education in constitutional law.

“We tried to have them learn from this,” she said. “We appreciate their passion.”


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This is rediculous, let the kids decide what motto they want.

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

More PC insanity.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   15:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

“We modified it to take out anything that could be declared religious or would offend anyone in any way,” she said.

How docile we have become.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-12   15:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike, *libertarians* (#0)

ping

Fox News Channel is the television version of Free Republic

freepatriot32  posted on  2008-01-12   16:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

In a formal opinion, he advised the district that both the U.S. and Oregon constitutions “prevent any public entity from taking any action which establishes, sponsors, supports or otherwise condones a particular religion or religious belief.”

And that is just straight-from-ADL bullsh*t. Residents Bush, the US Congress and others have established the Judeo-Satanic Bullsh*t Noahide Laws as the law of the land.

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-12   18:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

Isa 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew [their] strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; [and] they shall walk, and not faint.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa040.html#31

hmmmmm.......note to myself.....

Exd 19:4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and [how] I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/40/31.html

Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn014.html#3 / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Henry_Memorial

Oba 1:3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock [ http://nabataea.net/edomch3.html ], whose habitation [is] high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Oba/Oba001.html#3

Oba 1:4 — Though thou exalt [thyself] as the eagle, [ http://www.gemworld.com/US-Symbol-1dol.html Ezekiel 17:1-10/John 15:1-2/Matthew 15:13] and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Oba/1/4.html

".....(4) Edom progressed into an empire (as we shall see): Israel was reduced to slavery.

All the advantages seemed to be on the side of those who had lost the Covenant. Those who missed the blessing were blessed: those who gained the blessing were miserable slaves! Yet the day finally came when Moses and the Children of Israel sang victoriously:

The people shall hear, and be afraid:
Sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina,
Then the sheiks of Edom shall be amazed." (Exodus 14:14-15)

The final victor is the real victor: final blessing is the only blessing.

Even so today. The true church of Christ must be patient. The ones who seek immediate, temporal power, rulership, and a kingdom, lose the blessing even while they think they are blessed with the prospering of their schemes and plans. Those who, contrariwise, embrace the promises and wait patiently for Christ, may be persecuted and despised, and may continue sometimes under sufferance of the world's kings and rulers, or be crushed in prison or concentration camp; yet the day will come when Christ will deliver his own, and the true church will reign with Christ for ever. This is the teachings of the scriptures......"

CHAPTER III The Birth of the Kingdom of Edom

"I shall speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it" Jer. 18: 9........

http://nabataea.net/edomch3.html

Gen 25:21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she [was] barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.

Gen 25:22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If [it be] so, why [am] I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.

Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations [are] in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and [the one] people shall be stronger than [the other] people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen025.html#23 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gen/25/23.html

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-13   13:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

Just thought I'd give you an idea about Blue River, Oregon. It is up the Mckenzie River highway and at the door to the Cascade Mountains in Lane County.

It has morphed from a logging community into an eclectic population with many refugees from the city who have counter-culture roots. It is interesting to see this controversy up there.

I know most people support the kid's side of it up there, and to say this is anything but a conservative community would be an incredulous understatement in the eyes of anyone knowing that community.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-01-13   13:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

“My duty is to follow the law — in this case the U.S. Constitution, which doesn’t allow public schools to either interfere with the practice of religion or establish a religious practice.”

I didn't know they rewrote the Constitution? When did they amend the 1st amenement to read:

Congress Public Schools shall make no law rules respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Tag Line For Rent    (M, 48, NY)

Critter  posted on  2008-01-13   13:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

I know most people support the kid's side of it up there, and to say this is anything but a conservative community would be an incredulous understatement in the eyes of anyone knowing that community.

It would be interesting to know their thoughts about WHY they support the kids....maybe everyone is just uniting against the tyranny of state. That would be nice, but that will not be the end of it. I know you disagree, but God has ALWAYS had a special plan for America.

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/25/34.html / / http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa062.html#7 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa014.html#26 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/1Pe/2/9.html

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-13   14:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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