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Post Date: 2008-01-12 17:17:31 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Thank you. Don't give up the ship.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-12   20:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jethro...

This is an old quote form Louis Mcfadden...A Congressman that paid with his life for speaking up...

"Our freedom did not drop down like manna from heaven. It has been fought for from the beginning of our history and the blood of men has been shed to obtain it. It is the result of centuries of resistance to the power of the executive and it has brought us equal justice, trial by jury, freedom of worship, and freedom of religious and political opinion. Democracy is far the most difficult form of government because it requires for perfect functioning the participation of everybody.

"Democracy wants constant guarding, and for us to turn to a dictatorship would be an act of consummate cowardice, of surrender, of confession that our strength and courage alike had gone.

The answer to your question lies in the second paragraph.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-12   20:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

People actually want to help me get groceries off high shelves since I started wearing Ron Paul t-shirt...

this is great news, Dak, it heartens me to hear it
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   20:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah on the CenTex BBQ. I'm there. Cocktails at noon?

At noon?

Damn...maybe some weak Bloody Marys, Mimosas, or some other 'light-weight' pops - if that's OK with you.

But whatever a guest wants down here, they get. No matter the hour.

(Like grandkids, we know that we can send'em home if things get outta hand.)

Come see us.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   20:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cyni,

With all due respect, I'm asking about the actual mechanics of placing a man like RP into the office of president. How does that get done?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-01-12   20:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With Jane Harman's HR 1955 nearly passed, it may soon be technically illegal for us to be having this kind of conversation right, discussing the possibility of a tyrannical police state that should be resisted.

With that in place we need a test case because in an honest court, if we can find one, that law is so patently unconstitutional that it is sickening.

It IS time, Claire.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   20:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sounds great. There's nothing to be gained slipping into the NWO sober :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-01-12   20:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(Cynicom) This is an old quote form Louis Mcfadden... A Congressman that paid with his life for speaking up...

"Our freedom did not drop down like manna from heaven.
It has been fought for from the beginning of our history and the blood of men has been shed to obtain it.
It is the result of centuries of resistance to the power of the executive
and it has brought us equal justice, trial by jury, freedom of worship,
and freedom of religious and political opinion.
Democracy is far the most difficult form of government
because it requires for perfect functioning the participation of everybody.

"Democracy wants constant guarding,
and for us to turn to a dictatorship would be an act of consummate cowardice, of surrender,
of confession that our strength and courage alike had gone."

WOW Cynicom, thank you for posting that
it is great
I never heard that quote before, and it is TRUE
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   20:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are a brave person, if you are all that you say you are.

Like most honest posters here, PV is just that.

What you see is the truth, as we know it.

We may, or may not, be correct, but what you read is the truth as we see it.

You can't ask for any more than that.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   20:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We may be carpooling to cen tx if things get any worse. lol

Tag Line For Rent    (M, 48, NY)

Critter  posted on  2008-01-12   20:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(buckeye) With Jane Harman's HR 1955 nearly passed, it may soon be technically illegal for us to be having this kind of conversation right, discussing the possibility of a tyrannical police state that should be resisted.

(Original Intent) With that in place we need a test case because in an honest court, if we can find one, that law is so patently unconstitutional that it is sickening.

(lodwick) It IS time, Claire.

it would take a totally honest judge, and a totally courageous one
I don't think we have any who meet that bill
I hope and pray I am wrong
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   20:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

this is great news, Dak, it heartens me to hear it

To be honest a few of my local retailers became weary of me knocking stuff off shelves with my reacher stick. I always catch it, but my improvised sound effects sometimes put other patrons ill at ease.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-12   20:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Win, lose, draw, or swindled out of it, we don't lose anything by getting ideas out on the big stage. I bet this campaign has added a million new freedom lovers to the fold. If nothing else, that may be another million militias of one.

Great observation - this would be the best outcome of all.

Thanks.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   21:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Get done???

It wont get done because too many people chose to sit on the sideline and do nothing.

I and 20 million other "Americans" exercised our right of choice and voted for Perot. I certainly voted with no illusions about Perot being President. Likewise I do not labor with any illusions about Paul.

Why do I not have illusions about Paul??? There are more voters than there are caring "Americans". With that in mind I resent others doing their best to prevent me and others from having a choice.

The indoctrination of the masses by the system is working quite well as evidenced in NH voting for war mongers, and the persistent cry "Paul cant win".

I prefer supporting and voting for a guaranteed American loser than a programmed candidate of the ruling elite.

Asking how Paul can be elected is a waste of time, he will never be president, therefore the question is moot.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-12   21:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Decades of corruption can not be undone in one election cycle.

Decades of dumbing down, can not be corrected in one election cycle.

Decades of divide and conquer politics, can be corrected when people wake up en masse.

It's toward that point, we are heading.

Whether it's survivable or not, who knows.

Whether we live to see it, who knows?

Great post - thanks.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   21:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Congressman McFadden was a Patriot in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country (as opposed to the government worshipping buffoons at Gulag Republic) - as was Smedley Butler. They, among others, tried to alert the country early on as to the tyranny being installed but their warnings were not heeded and now we are left a desperate fight. If people do not think the fight desperate it is not because it is not but because they do not fully comprehend what we are facing - a virtual hell on earth with mind controlled serfs lorded over by a psychotically sick elite, and that is sugar coating it.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-12   21:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.

Cross your fingers for it, hope and prayer for it, but don't even bet a nickel on it.

The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   21:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is Ron Paul the Louis McFadden of our day?

Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) served on the House Banking Committee, and is currently on the Joint Economic Committee and the Committee on Financial Services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul

Congressman Louis T. McFadden (R-PA) (1876-1936) was a Chairman of the United States House Committee on Banking and Currency (1920-31).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_mcfad...

They both criticized the Federal Reserve, and they are both proponents of the gold standard.

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robin  posted on  2008-01-12   21:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless.

Yet ruthless. Can anyone spare a ruth?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-12   21:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.

Cross your fingers for it, hope and prayer for it, but don't even bet a nickel on it.

The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless.

I got that.

Still, we have to try because every now and then one wakes up enough from their stupor to actually notice the real world.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-12   21:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(buckeye) You are a brave person, if you are all that you say you are.

(lodwick) Like most honest posters here, PV is just that.

What you see is the truth, as we know it.

We may, or may not, be correct, but what you read is the truth as we see it.

You can't ask for any more than that.

thank you my beloved friend, Jim

I have been brave in my personal life
I didn't enjoy it
it meant being scared to death, but acting as if I wasn't
I think that period of my life is now over
I look forward to not having to demonstrate that kind of bravery again
altho I'm not sorry I went thru it, how else do we discover our strength

if I am called upon for bravery for political stuff now, I will
but I am happy just posting my truth on internet, that brings me total joy
Love, Palo

buckeye, stuff I did in my early 20s politically required no bravery for me then
lol I was 22 years old, I found it thrilling exciting and fun...
that is what 22 is!

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   21:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sounds great. There's nothing to be gained slipping into the NWO sober :)

Why God invented laser sights - let'em see a red dot before they go to hell.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   21:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Our freedom did not drop down like manna from heaven.

Palo...

The few did the bleeding and dying to found this country. The huge majority sat on the sidelines shouting "you cant win" for years. After the struggle, the majority were there to assure the soldiers that "we were with you all the time".

Human nature never changes.

That last para by McFadden I think is quite telling in our current era.

For his warning McFadden was poisoned, shot at and fatally poisoned on the third try.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-12   21:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Congressman McFadden was a Patriot in the true sense of the word - one who loves his country ... as was Smedley Butler.
They, among others, tried to alert the country early on as to the tyranny being installed
but their warnings were not heeded and now we are left a desperate fight.
If people do not think the fight desperate it is not because it is not but
because they do not fully comprehend what we are facing -
a virtual hell on earth with mind controlled serfs lorded over by a
psychotically sick elite, and that is sugar coating it.

what a great post OI
I knew nothing about either of these two people
and now they are my heros
thank you with all my heart
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   21:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is Ron Paul the Louis McFadden of our day?

Perhaps. However, the evidence is there, and has been all along, for anyone willing to look.

I hope Ron Paul does not meet the same fate as Louis McFadden - the Banksters are criminals and they WILL kill, again, to maintain their money power.

Thanks for the links.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-12   21:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, they were heroes; courageous men who spoke the truth.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-12   21:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

robin...

McFadden was a banker by profession so he knew the "business" from inside out. For his warning he paid with his life.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-12   21:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We may be carpooling to cen tx if things get any worse. lol

Don't mistake me: Texas, right now sucks.

Our governor is positioning himself to be right up there with the next Dim pres candidate and has been to the last Blideberg meeting, Tel Aviv, and has all the NWO blessings.

The good news is that there are millions of awake, armed, and aware citizens here than anywhere else that I know of who are prepared, ready, able, and happy to help anyone of like mind who needs any help, support, succor, or shelter.

Let us know.

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   21:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The few did the bleeding and dying to found this country.
The huge majority sat on the sidelines shouting "you cant win" for years.
After the struggle, the majority were there to assure the soldiers that "we were with you all the time".

Human nature never changes.

That last para by McFadden I think is quite telling in our current era. MO< For his warning McFadden was poisoned, shot at and fatally poisoned on the third try.

I am completely non violent
I will not shoot or kill anyone
however I am not afraid to die

I have no idea why UK citizens are going quietly to police state and fascism
I would hope here in USA we would resist it non violently
I consider electing Ron Paul our President a bloodless revolution
I am absolutely committed to making it happen
and I know it will happen

Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   21:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cyni,

I too was a Perotista. As you'll recall 1992 was before 9/10ths of the nation voted on Diebolt machines. Now that our "votes" are tallied on vapor, the exercise has become bread and circus. Voter manipulation does exist, corporate/MSM sponsored polls do not honestly reflect the pulse of the nation and a majority of the American people aren’t bright enough to understand even a fraction of the RP message. For these reasons this election is a signed, sealed and delivered to whichever globalist has been designated. The agenda will continue unabated.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-01-12   21:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, they were heroes; courageous men who spoke the truth.

and I thank them from the bottom of my heart for it
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   21:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

lol I was 22 years old, I found it thrilling exciting and fun... that is what 22 is!

What would we give to be 22, and scramble some eggs the next morning?

Yowsha!

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Lod  posted on  2008-01-12   21:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yet ruthless. Can anyone spare a ruth?

lol Ruth is my middle name
I wonder what ruth means?
people are called ruthless, but no one is ever called "having a lot of ruth"

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-12   21:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And then there's that baby ruth. Won't someone please think of the children?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-12   21:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ruth=friend (behindthename.com)

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-12   21:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OI: Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.

lodwick: Cross your fingers for it, hope and prayer for it, but don't even bet a nickel on it.

The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless.

The right wingers don't get the significance of H.R. 1955 and how it will impact THEM. They are thinking since it's Jane Harman who has sponsored the bill, it will only be applied against the Storm Fronters and the 9/11 Truthers. Wrong.

This bill will allow the gubment to decide sbjectively what constitutes fomenting violence stateside. It's not even doing violence. It is POSSIBLY encouraging - as the gubment might SUBJECTIVELY judge it to be so - others to PERHAPS act with force.

Their sites are big targets because continually calling Muslims bad guys and wanting them deported holus bolus could be viewed as fomenting violence against Muslim Americans. Ditto for el pee's 24/7 highly negative articles and remarks about Hispanics. Who knows where this type of "racism" could lead to, says the desk jockey bureaucrat to himself as he thinks about how to stand out to get a promotion and increased pay grade as well as unambitious run-of-the -mill civil servants who are encouraged to meet their monthly quotas for enforcing HR 1955... Talking about Dem politicians in highly derisive and controversial manners - who may very well form the next majority government - could possibly be construed as encouraging uprising and rebellion in the public square.

Dems and GOPers, liberals and conservatives together must pressure their Senators to stop this Stalinist bill in its tracks. Once gubment is given power to erode constitutional rights we know gubment will not hesitate to do so across the board - gubment always needs the appearance of being fair and balanced as it applies its legal mandates.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-01-12   21:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Dems and GOPers, liberals and conservatives together must pressure their Senators to stop this Stalinist bill in its tracks.

Scrap...

Congress is not the solution, they are the PROBLEM.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-12   21:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Scrapper, this summer we scared them to the bone with our outcry over the McCain-Kennedy treason. They are reacting to us the best way they know how. They are not afraid of Islamism. They are afraid of American patriots who simply want the highest laws of our land restored.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-12   21:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

At noon?

Damn...maybe some weak Bloody Marys, Mimosas, or some other 'light-weight' pops - if that's OK with you.

Amateurs...

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2008-01-12   21:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Most interesting, thank you.

For some reason, I looked up Anne to see what it represented -

From the Hebrew name •5;’3;–4;’8;’4;•2; (Channah) which meant "favour" or "grace". Hannah was the mother of the prophet Samuel in the Old Testament. The Latin version of this name is Anna.

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