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Title: Carl Cameron to Ron Paul: Are you "electable?" "Are you really a Republican?" Paul: Yes you stupid ass.
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Published: Jan 12, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-01-12 17:17:31 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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#8. To: Gay Old Patroons (#0)
Actually Paul isn't a Republican given what has happened to the party over the past 20-30 years, so the question was somewhat appropriate. Why RP stays among that mix of gay internationalists is the real question.
Probably because if he wasn't running for their presidential nomination, he would not get a nano second of air time.
I’ve heard that argument before and I’m weary of it. RP looked like a skunk at a picnic the other night and sometimes the right thing to do is stand on principle, especially given his less than sterling start.
I do wish you'd be a bit more optimistic. There is nothing lost by playing the game for a while and getting some form of message out there. Though he denies it all the time, if a GOP nod seems hopeless after super tuesday, and if his war chest is still pretty full, I think he will run as a Libertarian again.
Realism keeps getting in the way, for me at least. The game is rigged and his
effort has unfolded exactly as I knew it would. I've been a good boy until now
with a self exile, but I'm back and I'm goingto speak my piece. The bozo
filter is alive and well for anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying. When you
can show me where pom poms and cheerleading can trump Diebold machines I’ll be
happy to join the squad.
The point isn't will "pom-poms and cheerleading" win out over "Diebold Delivers", but that it is making the point to an awful lot of people who heretofore did not take it seriously that "Diebold Delivers". This is forcing the hand of the election rigging Plutocrats and their minions and is rubbing peoples' noses in the FACT that the U.S. National (s)Elections are rigged from the get-go - from candidate (s)Election to installment in orofice. A lot of people being woken up to the fact that they have not been getting any lubricant.
This is forcing the hand of the election rigging Plutocrats and their minions and is rubbing peoples' noses in the FACT that the U.S. National (s)Elections are rigged from the get-go - from candidate (s)Election to installment in orofice. A lot of people being woken up to the fact that they have not been getting any lubricant. Exactly. Decades of corruption can not be undone in one election cycle. Decades of dumbing down, can not be corrected in one election cycle. Decades of divide and conquer politics, can be corrected when people wake up en masse. It's toward that point, we are heading. Whether it's survivable or not, who knows.
Decades of corruption can not be undone in one election cycle. Decades of dumbing down, can not be corrected in one election cycle. Decades of divide and conquer politics, can be corrected when people wake up en masse. It's toward that point, we are heading. Whether it's survivable or not, who knows. Data insufficient at this point but we actually have a fighting chance now thanks to the likes of Alex Jones, the often unfairly maligned Church of Scientology, Patriots across the country, Judicial Watch, and others who have been fighting the good fight. That is why Home Schooling is under such attack - the kids are not robotized by the curriculum and are actually getting an education. That should tell folks something - when a High School Graduate Mom, or Dad, can turn out a better product than a Publik Skool Systum with 10 grand per student then there is a big giveaway as to what is actually going on in the Publik Skools. Exactly. We all have much more in common than such trifling differences as to who our Grand Parents were or what color their skin was. Black, White, Red, and Yellow we all want that same priceless commodity - Freedom. Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.
Cross your fingers for it, hope and prayer for it, but don't even bet a nickel on it. The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless.
lodwick: Cross your fingers for it, hope and prayer for it, but don't even bet a nickel on it. The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless. The right wingers don't get the significance of H.R. 1955 and how it will impact THEM. They are thinking since it's Jane Harman who has sponsored the bill, it will only be applied against the Storm Fronters and the 9/11 Truthers. Wrong. This bill will allow the gubment to decide sbjectively what constitutes fomenting violence stateside. It's not even doing violence. It is POSSIBLY encouraging - as the gubment might SUBJECTIVELY judge it to be so - others to PERHAPS act with force. Their sites are big targets because continually calling Muslims bad guys and wanting them deported holus bolus could be viewed as fomenting violence against Muslim Americans. Ditto for el pee's 24/7 highly negative articles and remarks about Hispanics. Who knows where this type of "racism" could lead to, says the desk jockey bureaucrat to himself as he thinks about how to stand out to get a promotion and increased pay grade as well as unambitious run-of-the -mill civil servants who are encouraged to meet their monthly quotas for enforcing HR 1955... Talking about Dem politicians in highly derisive and controversial manners - who may very well form the next majority government - could possibly be construed as encouraging uprising and rebellion in the public square. Dems and GOPers, liberals and conservatives together must pressure their Senators to stop this Stalinist bill in its tracks. Once gubment is given power to erode constitutional rights we know gubment will not hesitate to do so across the board - gubment always needs the appearance of being fair and balanced as it applies its legal mandates.
Scrapper, this summer we scared them to the bone with our outcry over the McCain-Kennedy treason. They are reacting to us the best way they know how. They are not afraid of Islamism. They are afraid of American patriots who simply want the highest laws of our land restored.
Individual senators are most concerned about keeping their senate jobs over all other fears. We The People must deliver outcry in the highest decibels possible to the Senators to stop HR 1955. We have done it before as you point out. We The People must get on the phones, the faxes to the Senators post haste. It threatens liberals and conservatives alike and their rights to free speech and free association.
The key would be to organize civil protests and public outcry, similar to the actions that were undertaken last summer. I don't know how to make that happen. The Minute Men, Let Freedom Ring, the John Birch Society, these groups could mobilize together. Do you want to try to kick something off? We're trying to conduct a grass roots presidential campaign, and now this. There's so much to do.
We're trying to conduct a grass roots presidential campaign, and now this. There's so much to do. what happened last summer?
Legal immigration activists put the fear of God into congress when the President was lying about the McCain-Kennedy bill not being amnesty, and it was nearly railroaded through the Capitol. The political ground was shaken under their feet, and they knew they had reached the absolute limits that they could push with their legal anarchy. I am certain that it was this watershed moment that led to HR 1955's meteoric rise.
thank you for exlaining it to me, Buckeye HR55 is vicious legislation which takes away freedom of speech talk radio does immigration 24/7 I don't know what to do except to pray for a miracle to stop it Do you thnk Ron Paul's Presidency can protect us from this legislation?
To the extent that he could encourage the DOJ to get it judicially reviewed. To the extent that he could avoid prosecuting it, again with influence on the DOJ. I know immigration is not your issue, but you may find yourself curious about the coincidence of the massive activism last summer (in outcry against the loss of legal integrity in our government over the issue) and the rapid sweeping in of the HR 1955 legislation. This is why HR 1955 discusses American-born citizens. Recall that Bill Clinton tried to tie the patriot movement to Timothy McVeigh after the Murrah building attacks. The language of HR 1955 is directly related to both the Murrah building incident and last year's summer of immigration activism. The Internet links us together in our love of country and the rule of law, and this terrifies the outlaw Establishment that congress protects.
thank you Buckeye, for your long thoughtful answer
#166. To: Ferret Mike (#165)
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#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Why RP stays among that mix of gay internationalists is the real question.
#13. To: Critter (#9)
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
#18. To: Critter (#16)
I do wish you'd be a bit more optimistic
#49. To: Jethro Tull, Critter, TwentyTwelve, Peppa, FormerLurker, Wudidiz, all (#18)
When you can show me where pom poms and cheerleading can trump Diebolt machines I’ll be happy to join the squad.
#73. To: Original_Intent (#49)
The point isn't will "pom-poms and cheerleading" win out over "Diebold Delivers", but that it is making the point to an awful lot of people who heretofore did not take it seriously that "Diebold Delivers".
#77. To: Peppa (#73)
Exactly.
Decades of divide and conquer politics, can be corrected when people wake up en masse.
#100. To: Original_Intent (#77)
Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.
#119. To: lodwick, Original_Intent, palo verde, robin, christine, tom007, rowdee (#100)
OI: Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.
#121. To: scrapper2 (#119)
#129. To: buckeye (#121)
Scrapper, this summer we scared them to the bone with our outcry over the McCain-Kennedy treason. They are reacting to us the best way they know how. They are not afraid of Islamism. They are afraid of American patriots who simply want the highest laws of our land restored.
#134. To: scrapper2, palo verde (#129)
We have done it before as you point out.
#138. To: buckeye (#134)
The key would be to organize civil protests and public outcry, similar to the actions that were undertaken last summer. I don't know how to make that happen. The Minute Men, Let Freedom Ring, the John Birch Society, these groups could mobilize together. Do you want to try to kick something off?
remember I left LP in protest of Goldi banning Pon Paul articles in early June
I did not return till Thanksgiving
#139. To: palo verde (#138)
what happened last summer?
#142. To: buckeye, ALL (#139)
you are very kind
as you know I am not into the iummigration issue
I pray it can be stopped
whole Senate wants it
but they will never go near this one
because they are in bed with the same people who want the police state
that's why they never mention Ron Paul either
I ask this question to all
I really want to hear your answers to it
because I do not know, and I would like to know
Love, Palo
#144. To: palo verde (#142)
Do you thnk Ron Paul's Presidency can protect us from this legislation?
#146. To: buckeye (#144)
I really appreciate it!
I will read it again first thing tomorrow, when I can fully concentrate
All my love, Palo
#165. To: palo verde (#146)
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