Title: Carl Cameron to Ron Paul: Are you "electable?" "Are you really a Republican?" Paul: Yes you stupid ass. Source:
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Neo-cons are not Republicans. Ron Paul is a Republican.
Actually Paul isn't a Republican given what has happened to the party over the past 20-30 years, so the question was somewhat appropriate. Why RP stays among that mix of gay internationalists is the real question.
I’ve heard that argument before and I’m weary of it. RP looked like a skunk at a picnic the other night and sometimes the right thing to do is stand on principle, especially given his less than sterling start.
I do wish you'd be a bit more optimistic. There is nothing lost by playing the game for a while and getting some form of message out there. Though he denies it all the time, if a GOP nod seems hopeless after super tuesday, and if his war chest is still pretty full, I think he will run as a Libertarian again.
Realism keeps getting in the way, for me at least. The game is rigged and his
effort has unfolded exactly as I knew it would. I've been a good boy until now
with a self exile, but I'm back and I'm goingto speak my piece. The bozo
filter is alive and well for anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying. When you
can show me where pom poms and cheerleading can trump Diebold machines I’ll be
happy to join the squad.
#49. To: Jethro Tull, Critter, TwentyTwelve, Peppa, FormerLurker, Wudidiz, all (#18)
When you can show me where pom poms and cheerleading can trump Diebolt machines I’ll be happy to join the squad.
The point isn't will "pom-poms and cheerleading" win out over "Diebold Delivers", but that it is making the point to an awful lot of people who heretofore did not take it seriously that "Diebold Delivers".
This is forcing the hand of the election rigging Plutocrats and their minions and is rubbing peoples' noses in the FACT that the U.S. National (s)Elections are rigged from the get-go - from candidate (s)Election to installment in orofice. A lot of people being woken up to the fact that they have not been getting any lubricant.
The point isn't will "pom-poms and cheerleading" win out over "Diebold Delivers", but that it is making the point to an awful lot of people who heretofore did not take it seriously that "Diebold Delivers".
This is forcing the hand of the election rigging Plutocrats and their minions and is rubbing peoples' noses in the FACT that the U.S. National (s)Elections are rigged from the get-go - from candidate (s)Election to installment in orofice. A lot of people being woken up to the fact that they have not been getting any lubricant.
Exactly.
Decades of corruption can not be undone in one election cycle.
Decades of dumbing down, can not be corrected in one election cycle.
Decades of divide and conquer politics, can be corrected when people wake up en masse.
Decades of corruption can not be undone in one election cycle.
Decades of dumbing down, can not be corrected in one election cycle.
Decades of divide and conquer politics, can be corrected when people wake up en masse.
It's toward that point, we are heading.
Whether it's survivable or not, who knows.
Data insufficient at this point but we actually have a fighting chance now thanks to the likes of Alex Jones, the often unfairly maligned Church of Scientology, Patriots across the country, Judicial Watch, and others who have been fighting the good fight.
That is why Home Schooling is under such attack - the kids are not robotized by the curriculum and are actually getting an education. That should tell folks something - when a High School Graduate Mom, or Dad, can turn out a better product than a Publik Skool Systum with 10 grand per student then there is a big giveaway as to what is actually going on in the Publik Skools.
Decades of divide and conquer politics, can be corrected when people wake up en masse.
Exactly. We all have much more in common than such trifling differences as to who our Grand Parents were or what color their skin was. Black, White, Red, and Yellow we all want that same priceless commodity - Freedom.
Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.
Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.
Cross your fingers for it, hope and prayer for it, but don't even bet a nickel on it.
The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless.
OI: Now if only we can get at the dolts who listen to Rush, the Gay Pill Popping Pedophile, Scumbaugh and post at Gulag Republik to remove their craniums from the rectal cavities.
lodwick: Cross your fingers for it, hope and prayer for it, but don't even bet a nickel on it.
The twenty-percenters are freaking hopeless and clueless.
The right wingers don't get the significance of H.R. 1955 and how it will impact THEM. They are thinking since it's Jane Harman who has sponsored the bill, it will only be applied against the Storm Fronters and the 9/11 Truthers. Wrong.
This bill will allow the gubment to decide sbjectively what constitutes fomenting violence stateside. It's not even doing violence. It is POSSIBLY encouraging - as the gubment might SUBJECTIVELY judge it to be so - others to PERHAPS act with force.
Their sites are big targets because continually calling Muslims bad guys and wanting them deported holus bolus could be viewed as fomenting violence against Muslim Americans. Ditto for el pee's 24/7 highly negative articles and remarks about Hispanics. Who knows where this type of "racism" could lead to, says the desk jockey bureaucrat to himself as he thinks about how to stand out to get a promotion and increased pay grade as well as unambitious run-of-the -mill civil servants who are encouraged to meet their monthly quotas for enforcing HR 1955... Talking about Dem politicians in highly derisive and controversial manners - who may very well form the next majority government - could possibly be construed as encouraging uprising and rebellion in the public square.
Dems and GOPers, liberals and conservatives together must pressure their Senators to stop this Stalinist bill in its tracks. Once gubment is given power to erode constitutional rights we know gubment will not hesitate to do so across the board - gubment always needs the appearance of being fair and balanced as it applies its legal mandates.
scrapper: Dems and GOPers, liberals and conservatives together must pressure their Senators to stop this Stalinist bill in its tracks.
Cynicom: Scrap...
Congress is not the solution, they are the PROBLEM.
Cynicom, to stop HR 1955 there's no time to wait for white knights. We The People need to make use of Senators' powers to head off the Congressmen.
It's urgent to nail this sucker bill to the post. Senators are exceedingly arrogant and protective of their powers. We need to harness the Senators' love of power and being top dogs in DC to end this bill when it comes up for a vote. Other noxious bills have been stopped because the Senate got afraid of being unemployed. We The People must roar to the Senators.
Cynicom, to stop HR 1955 there's no time to wait for white knights. We The People need to make use of Senators' powers to head off the Congressmen.
It's urgent to nail this sucker bill to the post. Senators are exceedingly arrogant and protective of their powers. We need to harness the Senators' love of power and being top dogs in DC to end this bill when it comes up for a vote. Other noxious bills have been stopped because the Senate got afraid of being unemployed. We The People must roar to the Senators.
I would give anything to stop this bill being passed by our Senate but I have no idea how?? Do you know how many Representatives voted for it, it was practically unanimous and it will be practically unanimous in Senate too
#149. To: palo verde, aristeides, Brian S, lodwick, ghostdogtxn, Burkeman1, rowdee, christine, Original_Intent, farmfriend, All (#130)
It's too late to call Congressmen. It's now been forwarded to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, names of committee members here, 17 members in total, some more vulnerable than others as noted below.
Those of us who are active in other political boards or political meet-up groups - whether they are of Dem or Repub persuation - need to marshall the energies of members of those groups and encourage them to call and fax and send letters of protest to their own senators as well as to the Senators on the Committee on Homeland Security. The Senate Bill is S-1959. ( mirror of HR 1955). This bill is a thought crime bill - a variation of a hate crime bill, that fell through earlier this year. The same anti-free speech Stalinists are trying to ram this through. We must stop them at the Senate level.
Light up the switchboard at (202) 224-3121, and let the Senators know that they should not vote for an unconstitutional thought-crime measure like the "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act" S-1959. Our free speech rights are the corner stone of our fair Republic and guaranteed free speech is something that distinguishes us from all other nations. They should over turn what other Americans through history fought to defend and to preserve.
Here's more on contacting Senators by snail mail ( the best!), by phone, by email and fax:
Co-Chair: Susan Collins R-Maine **** vulnerable, up for re-elect 11/08
Members:
Daniel Akaka D-Hawaii
Thomas Carper D-DE
Thomas Coburn R-OK
Norman Coleman R-MN *** vulnerable & up for re-elect 11/08
Pete Dominici R-NM **** vulnerable -up for re-election 11/08
Mary Landrieu D-LA **** vulnerable -up for re-election 11/08
Carl Levin D-MI **** vulnerable - up for re-election 11/08
Claire McCaskill D-MO
Barack Obama D-IL **** vulnerable to voter concerns-Dem Pres candidate
Mark Pryor D-AR **** vulnerable up for re-election 11/08
Ted Stevens R-AK **** vulnerable up for re-election 11/08
John Sununu R-NH **** vulnerable up for re-election 11/08
John Tester D-MT
John Voinovich R-OH ( a bit vulnerable -only 44% approval as of 11/07)
John Warner R-VA **** vulnerable - up for re-elect 11/08
The bill was introduced to the Senate on August 02, 2007, as Senate Bill 1959, and has been referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[7]The Bill was introduced by Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), and has been co-sponsored by Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN).
From wiki regarding Media "blackout"...interesting - who says we have a "free" press?( Pravda by another name- our US media function as gubment foot soldiers)
The Senate bill is not the one we need to worry about. It hasn't moved from committee. It won't as long as HR1955 is moving. It is out of the House and in Senate committee. Energy should be directed at that bill.
The Senate bill is not the one we need to worry about. It hasn't moved from committee. It won't as long as HR1955 is moving. It is out of the House and in Senate committee. Energy should be directed at that bill.
HR-1955 was introduced to the House on April 19 2007 and passed on Oct 23, 2007. It was introduced to the Senate on August 2, 2007 as S-1959.
HR-1955 was introduced to the House on April 19 2007 and passed on Oct 23, 2007. It was introduced to the Senate on August 2, 2007 as S-1959.
Sorry, that's not how it works. Bills keep their numbers when they change houses. These are two separate bills, one originating in the House (HR) and one originating in the Senate (S). When you look up HR1955 it will show several versions. One is designated as HR 1955 RFS which stands for "refered to the Senate."
H.R.1955 Title: To prevent homegrown terrorism, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Harman, Jane [CA-36] (introduced 4/19/2007) Cosponsors (14) Latest Major Action: 10/24/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. House Reports: 110-384 Part 1
MAJOR ACTIONS: 4/19/2007 Introduced in House 10/16/2007 Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Homeland Security. H. Rept. 110-384, Part I. 10/16/2007 Committee on Judiciary discharged. 10/23/2007 Passed/agreed to in House: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 404 - 6 (Roll no. 993). 10/24/2007 Referred to Senate committee: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
SUMMARY AS OF: 10/16/2007--Reported to House amended, Part I. (There is 1 other summary)
Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 - Amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to add a new section concerning the prevention of violent radicalization (an extremist belief system for facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change) and homegrown terrorism (violence by a group or individual within the United States to coerce the U.S. government, the civilian population, or a segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives).
Establishes within the legislative branch the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism to: (1) examine and report on facts and causes of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States; and (2) build upon, bring together, and avoid unnecessary duplication of related work done by other entities toward such goal. Requires: (1) interim reports and a final report from the Commission to the President and Congress on its findings and recommendations; (2) the public availability of such reports; and (3) Commission termination 30 days after its final report.
Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States to assist federal, state, local, and tribal homeland security officials, through training, education, and research, in preventing violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States. Requires the Secretary to: (1) conduct a survey of methodologies implemented by foreign nations to prevent violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism; and (2) report to Congress on lessons learned from survey results.
Prohibits Department of Homeland Security (DHS) efforts to prevent ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism from violating the constitutional and civil rights and civil liberties of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents. Directs the: (1) Secretary to ensure that activities and operations are in compliance with DHS's commitment to racial neutrality; and (2) DHS Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Officer to develop and implement an auditing system to ensure that compliance does not result in a disproportionate impact, without a rational basis, on any particular race, ethnicity, or religion, and to include audit results in its annual report to Congress.
S.1959 Title: A bill to establish the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen Collins, Susan M. [ME] (introduced 8/2/2007) Cosponsors (1) Latest Major Action: 8/2/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
SUMMARY AS OF: 8/2/2007--Introduced.
Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 - Amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to add a new section concerning the prevention of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.
Establishes within the legislative branch the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism to: (1) examine and report on facts and causes of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States; (2) survey methodologies implemented by foreign nations to prevent such radicalization and terrorism; and (3) build upon, bring together, and avoid unnecessary duplication of related work done by other entities toward such goal.
Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States to assist federal, state, local, and tribal government homeland security officials in preventing violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States. Requires the Secretary to ensure that activities to prevent ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism do not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, and civil liberties of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents.