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Title: North Atlantic warming tied to natural variability; but global warming may be at play elsewhere
Source: EurekAlert
URL Source: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-01/du-naw010308.php
Published: Jan 3, 2008
Author: Monte Basgall
Post Date: 2008-01-14 04:46:06 by farmfriend
Ping List: *Agriculture-Environment*     Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*
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Contact: Monte Basgall
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North Atlantic warming tied to natural variability; but global warming may be at play elsewhere

DURHAM, N.C. – A Duke University-led analysis of available records shows that while the North Atlantic Ocean’s surface waters warmed in the 50 years between 1950 and 2000, the change was not uniform. In fact, the subpolar regions cooled at the same time that subtropical and tropical waters warmed.

This striking pattern can be explained largely by the influence of a natural and cyclical wind circulation pattern called the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), wrote authors of a study published Thursday, Jan. 3, in Science Express, the online edition of the journal Science.

Winds that power the NAO are driven by atmospheric pressure differences between areas around Iceland and the Azores. “The winds have a tremendous impact on the underlying ocean,” said Susan Lozier, a professor of physical oceanography at Duke’s Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences who is the study’s first author.

Other studies cited in the Science Express report suggest human-caused global warming may be affecting recent ocean heating trends. But Lozier and her coauthors found their data can’t support that view for the North Atlantic. “It is premature to conclusively attribute these regional patterns of heat gain to greenhouse warming,” they wrote.

“The take-home message is that the NAO produces strong natural variability,” said Lozier in an interview. “The simplistic view of global warming is that everything forward in time will warm uniformly. But this very strong natural variability is superimposed on human-caused warming. So researchers will need to unravel that natural variability to get at the part humans are responsible for.”

In research supported by the National Science Foundation in the United States and the Natural Environment Research Council in the United Kingdom, her international team analyzed 50 years of North Atlantic temperature records collected at the National Oceanic Data Center in Washington, D.C.

To piece together the mechanisms involved in the observed changes, their analysis employed an ocean circulation model that predicts how winds, evaporation, precipitation and the exchange of heat with the atmosphere influences the North Atlantic’s heat content over time. They also compared those computer predictions to real observations “to test the model’s skill,” the authors wrote.

Her group’s analysis showed that water in the sub-polar ocean –- roughly between 45 degrees North latitude and the Arctic Circle –- became cooler as the water directly exchanged heat with the air above it.

By contrast, NOA-driven winds served to “pile up” sun-warmed waters in parts of the subtropical and tropical North Atlantic south of 45 degrees, Lozier said. That retained and distributed heat at the surface while pushing underlying cooler water further down.

The group’s computer model predicted warmer sea surfaces in the tropics and subtropics and colder readings within the sub-polar zone whenever the NAO is in an elevated state of activity. Such a high NAO has been the case during the years 1980 to 2000, the scientists reported.

“We suggest that the large-scale, decadal changes...associated with the NAO are primarily responsible for the ocean heat content changes in the North Atlantic over the past 50 years,” the authors concluded.

However, the researchers also noted that this study should not be viewed in isolation. Given reported heat content gains in other oceans basins, and rising air temperatures, the authors surmised that other parts of the world's ocean systems may have taken up the excess heat produced by global warming.

“But in the North Atlantic, any anthropogenic (human-caused) warming would presently be masked by such strong natural variability,” they wrote. Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*

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#9. To: farmfriend (#0)

North Atlantic warming tied to natural variability; but global warming may be at play elsewhere

Aren't you one of those that claim there is no such thing as global warming, that it's a NWO conspiracy to somehow enrich the oil companies? Yeah, using caution in regards to what we exhaust into the atmosphere and eliminating our reliance on petroleum is really a master plan by the oil companies.

Yep.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-15   1:45:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker, robin, ferret mike (#9) (Edited)

Aren't you one of those that claim there is no such thing as global warming, that it's a NWO conspiracy to somehow enrich the oil companies?

No, nice twist though. What I said was that climate is driven by the sun not CO2 emissions. Those pushing the debate in favor of AGW are the big foundations whose money is oil money. They are the driving force behind resource regulations and yes the NWO.

Yeah, using caution in regards to what we exhaust into the atmosphere and eliminating our reliance on petroleum is really a master plan by the oil companies.

What I said was they make larger profits by controlling supply and demand through government regulation.

I have always advocated conservation. I turn to our resident green for verification and at least 7 years of public posting on the subject. I don't advocate buying into the NWO propaganda and pushing CO2 regulations to perpetuate big government and the UN! I'm sorry if you don't want to believe it. I'm sorry if you would rather believe I have ulterior motives. At least I am consistent in fighting the NWO. I don't talk against them when it comes to the WOT and for them when it comes to AGW.

Edit: and that quote you use is not from me. Not sure why you want to attribute it to me.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-01-15   2:31:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: farmfriend (#14) (Edited)

What I said was that climate is driven by the sun not CO2 emissions.

It doesn't take a scientist to understand the sun is a factor in weather. Global warming on the other hand is driven by BOTH the likely increase in solar energy AND atmospheric CO2 levels, as even YOU have admitted in earlier exchanges. In fact, the CO2 levels regulate the global climate, and affect the ocean currents and temperatures.

Those pushing the debate in favor of AGW are the big foundations whose money is oil money.

A) Define AGW.
B) Are you trying to say oil companies are behind the push for alternative energy?

They are the driving force behind resource regulations and yes the NWO.

So the oil companies are trying to get themselves regulated, and it's all a NWO plot. Uh huh.

What I said was they make larger profits by controlling supply and demand through government regulation.

It's because of a LACK of regulations they rake in billions of dollars over the cost of production, and STILL get billions of dollars in subsidies (FREE MONEY FROM THE TAXPAYERS) as well as tax credits in the millions if not billions of dollars.

They NEED some regulation to get them under control. You are against this?

Edit: and that quote you use is not from me. Not sure why you want to attribute it to me.

You posted it. Refer to the article you posted, it's the title of your post.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-15   5:35:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker (#20)

Global warming on the other hand is driven by BOTH the likely increase in solar energy AND atmospheric CO2 levels, as even YOU have admitted in earlier exchanges.

No I never said that. Climate is driven by the sun. Man's contribution to CO2 is 3%. The increase in CO2 IS NOT resposible for resent warming, nor have I ever said it was. Sun activity in cycle 21 and 22 is.

You posted it. Refer to the article you posted, it's the title of your post.

That doesn't make it mine and can not be attributed to me as a quote.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-01-15   5:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: farmfriend (#22) (Edited)

No I never said that. Climate is driven by the sun. Man's contribution to CO2 is 3%. The increase in CO2 IS NOT resposible for resent warming, nor have I ever said it was. Sun activity in cycle 21 and 22 is.

So let me get this straight. Now you're trying to say that CO2 levels have no affect on the earth's climate?

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-15 06:27:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#22)

That doesn't make it mine and can not be attributed to me as a quote.

You posted it. You ARE farmfriend, are you not? I accept responsibility for what I post, you should do the same.

Are you trying to say you disagree with what you posted?

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-15 06:28:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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