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Title: Email from Shaun@Start the Revolution
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://none
Published: Jan 16, 2008
Author: Shaun
Post Date: 2008-01-16 10:35:06 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 407
Comments: 26

Subject: Well, what can I say. No Recount in NH

I do not know where to begin with all of this so I will just lay out the basic facts as they are being reported to me:

The state of New Hampshire ballot appeared to have been tampered with.
The people of America (and about half of the world too!) pulled together to sign a petition and have their voice heard, across the aisle, in an effort that has seen both Democrats and Republicans call for a recount of the ballots for the state of New Hampshire.
The Secretary of State placed a January 15th @ 15:00 deadline for the $55,600 to be handed over to cover the cost of the recount.
The money was raised by, again, people from all walks of life who simply wanted to see that every vote was counted.
At the very last moment, PayPal froze the Granny Warriors account and refused to release the funds whilst they “investigated” a “suspicious” $1000 donation. The money could not be handed over and thus, at this point in time, it appears that the recount will NOT take place.

So, the following is what we are meant to believe:

PayPal have clearly not been paying ANY attention to what has been happening during this campaign and thus have no idea how quickly and in what amounts the Ron Paul Revolution is able to raise funds.
PayPal were clearly unaware that Ron Paul supporters were in the majority of those donating to this effort and would likely break the target REGARDLESS of what last minute donations were required.
PayPal were so unlucky during the four days that this appeal ran that they managed to:
Crash the original ChipIn at least 3 times making it impossible during this time to donate any money at all.
Destroy the original ChipIn altogether after around $40,000 had been donated requiring the Granny Warriors to start a new ChipIn for the remaining monies. Crash the new ChipIn for about 2 hours on and off on the final fundraising date.
Stop the recount by denying that all and any funds received are now frozen (note: NOT just the $1000 which, by this point, was no longer needed as we were over the top by then) pending an investigation into where a perfectly decent sized donation came from.
The Secretary of State is unable to stretch the deadline or accept that said funds exist regardless of the amount of documented evidence placed on his desk. This entirely calamitous and accidental chain of events was, at no point whatsoever, manipulated by anybody to ensure that this recount never took place.

I am sorry but I do not believe for one second that 1 through 4 could possibly have happened without 5 being false.

I never will either.

This is democracy being stolen, right in front of our eyes and we are watching it, some in disbelief, some in denial, all in bond.

America has been stolen and the vote with it.

I do not know what comes next. What new horrors? What new wars? What new laws?

I fear for the future of America.

Best wishes and good luck,

Shaun

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#1. To: christine (#0)

This was posted last night on 4um

"On January 15th, 2008 smartbandwidth says:

I got a call from my contact at We The People Foundation asking me how the GrannyWarriors chip-in payment was coming along. This was 15 minutes prior to the 3 pm deadline.

Linda Hunnicut wasn't picking up her phone, but we had already heard through a good source who spoke with her that the payment went through.

While I was on with WTP we heard from Bob Schulz, Chairman of WTP, that he called the NH Attorney General who confirmed that the deadline had passed.

We finally made contact with Linda 10-15 minutes past 3 pm. She said PayPal "froze" the account for "suspicious activity". WTP is willing to step into the breach and write/wire funds for the full $55,600. Bob Schulz et al were put in direct contact with Linda and her partner.

Stay tuned!

Keep the prayers coming!

Peace and God Bless! "

Live free or die.

angle  posted on  2008-01-16   10:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: angle (#1)

thanks, angle.

christine  posted on  2008-01-16   10:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

The context for this comment found here:

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=71046&Disp

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
The Revolution will not be televised!

robin  posted on  2008-01-16   10:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

This is democracy being stolen, right in front of our eyes and we are watching it, some in disbelief, some in denial, all in bond.

Indeed. And, short of massive civil unrest thing will just grow worst for 'we the people'. Maybe we need the completely new set of 'founding fathers'. This system is, I'm afraid, corrupted beyond repair.

gord  posted on  2008-01-16   11:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: gord, Christine (#4)

This is democracy being stolen, right in front of our eyes and we are watching it, some in disbelief, some in denial, all in bond.

Everyday it becomes more obvious that more and more Americans are becoming aware that America is under the control of god's darlings. At some point a critical balance will occur that will not only bring to light the high-crimes of those who call the shots in Washington but it will also show their utter and complete evil. Will America escape Russia's fate following the Bolshevik Revolution? The Gulag's are already in place.

Some historians estimate 40-million Russians and Ukrainians, mostly Orthodox Christians, went to early graves as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution. I'd venture to guess that the Zionists have more power in America today than the Bolsheviks had in 1917 Russia. Wake up! America

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-16   11:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zoroaster (#5)

I'd venture to guess that the Zionists have more power in America today than the Bolsheviks had in 1917 Russia. Wake up! America

The Zionists in Russia took control with the point of a gun. In the US they have been eating away at out government for a very long time, to the extent they now control the Congress and the Executive.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-16   11:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

they now control the Congress and the Executive

And the Judiciary.

Live free or die.

angle  posted on  2008-01-16   12:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zoroaster (#5)

At some point a critical balance will occur that will not only bring to light the high-crimes of those who call the shots in Washington but it will also show their utter and complete evil. Will America escape Russia's fate following the Bolshevik Revolution?

it doesn't look promising, does it? is it your opinion that a complete economic collapse is the only thing that could bring about the mass awakening?

christine  posted on  2008-01-16   12:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#8)

I just reread the events of the French Revolution. Took quite a while to get going. Economics were a big part but not the only part...food shortages were a big factor as well.

Live free or die.

angle  posted on  2008-01-16   12:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: angle (#9)

food shortages were a big factor as well.

Yes, Victor Hugo's "Les Miserables" involved but a stolen loaf of bread, Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake." Hunger transforms "the people" into a mob.

Dukie  posted on  2008-01-16   13:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom, Christine (#6) (Edited)

The Zionists in Russia took control with the point of a gun. In the US they have been eating away at out government for a very long time, to the extent they now control the Congress and the Executive.

I'd make a conservative estimate that there are 20-milllion Christian Zionists in our midst. When the timeis ripe they could become Zionist soldiers, say, a Trotsky-like Army following the Noahhide laws. With fanatical leaders such as John Hagee they could make the Bolshevik Revolution and the Russian Civil War seem like a Sunday School picnic.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-17   15:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zoroaster (#11)

John Hagee

I have trouble with god not smiting his chunky ass.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-01-17   16:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

John Hagee

I have trouble with god not smiting his chunky ass.

In the good old days, call it that 'old time' religion, The Roman Church burnt heretics like Hagee at the stake.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-18   4:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zoroaster (#13)

The Roman Church burnt heretics like Hagee at the stake.

Now that is a perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black !!!

Hagee and the Romans are heretics.

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-01-18   5:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zoroaster (#11) (Edited)

I'd make a conservative estimate that there are 20-milllion Christian Zionists in our midst. When the timeis ripe they could become Zionist soldiers, say, a Trotsky-like Army following the Noahhide laws. With fanatical leaders such as John Hagee they could make the Bolshevik Revolution and the Russian Civil War seem like a Sunday School picnic.

Just like the Bolsheviks killed off the Menshoviks ... I think you're right and have focused upon an important factor that I for one hadn't given much consideration. The Christian Zionazis will be used by the Zionazi Jews to accomplish the "revolution and then just like in Russia ... bye bye Christian morons.

Excellent point.

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-01-18   5:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222 (#14)

Your negative contributions are not appreicated. Despite her faults the Roman Church kept Christianity alive for 1,5000 years. And Christianity did quite well for 1,800 without the Darby heresey. Zionism is/was a far greater threat to Christianity than the Roman Church ever was.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-18   5:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#16)

I'm happy to see we agree.

Before the Reformation we all belonged to the Roman Church.

Best regards,

-Z-

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-18   5:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#8)

Hey, what's wrong with everybody. The economy is good, the system is fair, and the opportunities are just waiting for us.

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Uncle Bill  posted on  2008-01-18   5:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Zoroaster (#16)

Despite her faults the Roman Church kept Christianity alive for 1,5000 years. And Christianity did quite well for 1,800 without the Darby heresey.

Those "INQUISITIONS and deprivation of Bibles kept the Roman (Caesars) Church alive while murdering millions of "Christ" followers. The Romans were feeding followers of Christ to Lions for 300 years and got most of them. Those remaining today, for the most part are nothing more than paganized (under Constantine) goddess / sun-worshippers to ignorant to realize it.

I too, was one (Roman Catholic). [Until I compared Scripture with the actions of the Roman Church and the others that are mere copies of the Roman Church for the most part].

The Roman Church and most derivations of it honor traditions of men (just like the Pharisees), in violation of the very Scriptures upon which their existence is based, much like the U.S. operates in absolute violation of the Constitution.

What's worse, is that the most adamant supporters of the Roman Church are Biblically illiterate just as the so-called U.S. citizens are ignorant of the Constitution. That's precisely why we live under ROMAN CIVIL LAW instead of the Constitution, why the Capitol (definition - Temple of Zeus/Jupiter) Rotunda in D.C. is decorated with a multitude of ROMAN gods. WE ARE LIVING IN A ROMAN SUBURB CALLED AMERICA, CAPITOL CITY LOCATED IN MARY-LAND, (goddess of the Roman Pagan Church).

Scripture will not support the activities of the modern day "Church" at all, whether it's Roman, Protestant, Methodist, etc.,.

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-01-18   6:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222, uncle bill, christine (#19)

RP raised $20 MILLION in the last quarter with 2 record one day donations.

The Rothchilds make $20 MILLION A SECOND , and that's only one of 4 or maybe 5 brothers.

Does anyone that thinks 'logicly' expect anything different?

Is it almost too late or is it too late?

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-01-18   6:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#20)

Is it almost too late or is it too late?

The REAL power lies in the masses getting in their faces, in the streets ! The money is fake, the people are a real threat when they get informed and angry.

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-01-18   6:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Uncle Bill (#18)

UN-believable.

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-01-18   6:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222, itisa1mosttoolate (#21)

Is it almost too late or is it too late?

Has the republic been ruined? Yes. Can it be fixed? Not by the people in power now.

The French did it. But it wasn't a fix, it was bloody and took a while. And it didn't end up the way it used to be.

Today, the global elite and their heirs are entrenched and only a revolution will change that.

Live free or die.

angle  posted on  2008-01-18   8:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: noone222 (#19)

Scripture will not support the activities of the modern day "Church" at all, whether it's Roman, Protestant, Methodist, etc.,.

We can agree on your statement above. Scripture remains the same but times change.

Religion is a creation of man, not God. The perfect God does not play favorites. The Biblical Yahweh is the war god of ancient Israel

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-18   9:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Zoroaster (#24)

Its way too late to vote our way out of this mess.

Follow this example:

republicoflakotah.com/forum/ index.php

RidinShotgun  posted on  2008-01-18   10:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Zoroaster (#24)

The Biblical Yahweh is the war god of ancient Israel

The Biblical Yahweh is the war god of ancient Israel and their descendants, today. [And I'm not referencing those calling themselves Jews].

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-01-20   10:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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