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Title: No Problems in NH Hand Count Says Local Media
Source: bradblog
URL Source: http://www.bradblog.com/
Published: Jan 17, 2008
Author: Brad Friedman
Post Date: 2008-01-17 20:35:06 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 489
Comments: 42

'No Problems' in NH Hand Count Says Local Media (Who Apparently Didn't Bother to Check First with Anybody but the SoS)

Also meanwhile...Out there in MSM world, where reality creates its own definition, WMUR is reporting that all is fine in New Hampshire:

CONCORD, N.H. --- The continuing Democratic primary recount in New Hampshire has not found any voting problems.

Well, they're sort of correct. "Voting" problems aren't the concern. As we frequently point out, the voters are still doing fine. Leave them alone. The election problems, and the horrible administration thereof, is another matter entirely. And on that front, loads of problems have been "found". But only if you bother to look at them. of course.

Given WMUR's following quote from NH Sec. of State Bill Gardner, which is demonstrably wrong in 3 seconds time if you bother to look at the SoS' very own web page for hand count results, it's not a surprise that WMUR thinks everything is just rosy:

"We did nine of the 12 wards in Manchester, and a lot of the votes were exactly the same," Gardner said. "Some went up by a vote or two." That is what we in the business of actual reporting would call: a lie. Check the numbers for yourself. Yeah, "a lot of the votes were exactly the same," as Gardner says. Many more were not at all the same, ranging anywhere from 5 to 8 votes off in regular cases, across almost all candidates.

And before you say that's no big deal, we'll remind you that in 2004, had just 6 votes per precinct been registered in Ohio for John Kerry instead of George W. Bush, we'd have a different person sitting in the White House right now.

Other than that, and the fact that Gardner has no idea where the memory cards are for his Diebold machines, and all other matter of horrible election oversight, yeah, everything's just fine in New Hampshire.


Poster Comment:

Black Box Voting reported that the real problem with the recount is the lack of chain of custody for both the memory cards and for the paper ballots.

Since there is no guarantee that these are the same ballots that the voters cast, we cannot say that this will be an accurate recount and we will have a free and honest election in 2008.

Let's see. I have a choice between Hillary Clinton who is a Bilderberger and a criminal, John McCain who amended his statement that he does not mind if we stay in Iraq for 100 years to say that 1,000 years was just fine and Michael Bloomberg, the Independent candidate, who is a Zionist and just might be the devil incarnate.

I nearly forgot Senator Lieberman's second bid for the vice-presidency. I wonder if he will run with McCain or with Bloomberg?

Looks like I will be voting for Ralph Nader again. I can't be the only lifelong Republican who voted for Nader against Bush. I pride myself in saying that I never voted for either Bush father or son for any office.

I think Bloomberg will jump into the race if he feels he needs to threaten one or both of the major parties and/or their candidate with $500 million in attack ads. Nobody in their right mind would vote for him. The only point of a Bloomberg candidacy is to threaten the other candidates. The man is not electable outside New York City and then only against the crazies who run for mayor of New York.

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#2. To: Horse, FOH, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, wudidiz, robin, christine, all (#0)

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One Response to “Please go to recent comments! BEV NEEDS HELP!”

1. amyk Says: January 17th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

URGENT!!!! PLEASE READ!!!!

I am sorry for breaking in on our blog, but for some reason my account is not working. Please accept my apology!

Bev Harris has put out an urgent call to anyone who has a video camera or a still camera to come to Concord, NH ASAP!!!

Bev has been following the cars that are carrying the ballots from the individual precincts to the Archive building where they are to be counted. She is confirming that the ballots boxes are leaving the precincts “:SEALED” and when they arrive at the Archive building where they are being kepts until tomorrow when they start the count, the boxes are ariving with the seals BROKEN. This whole thing is unbelievable. Also, Bev is saying that the ballots are suppose to be kept in a vault over night, however, they are taking the ballots out of the boxes and piling them up on the floor. When Bev tried addressed this issue, they asked her to leave.

If anyone can help, please go to : 71 S. Fruit St., Concord, NH

They need help video taping license plates and takig note of year, make and models of cars that are circleing the Archive building.

For those who cannot go to the Archive Building and would like to join in on the “National Ron Paul Meetup Confrence Call” that is taking place right now, please call: 605-475-8500 Code-5092984

Guests: DAVID BRIGHT, Campaign Manager for Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich (for Vote Recount) ALBERT HOWARD, representing himself as the NH Primary Republican Presidential candidate who requested the official recount

DR. LORA CHAMBERLAIN, D.O., Election Reform Activist, Member of the Illinois Ballot Integrity Project - focus on paper ballots

BRENT TURNER, Election Reform Activist, President of Open Voting Foundation - focus on paper ballots and the use of open source software if and when voting machines are used LINDA HUNNICUTT, Granny Warrior, www.grannywarriors.com

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-17   23:03:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TwentyTwelve (#2)

Bev has been following the cars that are carrying the ballots from the individual precincts to the Archive building where they are to be counted. She is confirming that the ballots boxes are leaving the precincts “:SEALED” and when they arrive at the Archive building where they are being kepts until tomorrow when they start the count, the boxes are ariving with the seals BROKEN. This whole thing is unbelievable. Also, Bev is saying that the ballots are suppose to be kept in a vault over night, however, they are taking the ballots out of the boxes and piling them up on the floor. When Bev tried addressed this issue, they asked her to leave.

Holy Smokes!

wudidiz  posted on  2008-01-18   2:22:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: wudidiz, FOH, Original_Intent, christine, FormerLurker, robin, farmfriend, all (#20)

Holy Smokes!

www.opednews.com/articles...n_the_ground_in_nh_3a.htm

January 18, 2008 at 08:46:33

On the ground in NH: Recount Update

by Bev Harris Page 1 of 2 page(s)

www.opednews.com

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Posted by Bev Harris on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 5:30 am:

Writing this last night, I was quite tired. I will post photos - the slits are not "through the box" in the sense that they are in the middle of the cardboard. They deliver the ballots in a variety of cardboard boxes. The lid of the cardboard box is taped and has various seals on it, some old, from using the box before, some new. The slits cut through any tape or seals. They don't cut into the cardboard itself, and I'm going to edit the post above to clarify that.

The other thing that isn't clear from the above post is the timing.

1. We noticed the slits in the vault and confirmed when they brought the ballots out that the slits were still there.

2. Then we looked at the ballot boxes as they were being delivered. Those, too, had slits.

3. Then we visitied towns that had ballots scheduled for pickup. We had time to visit only two towns. Both towns had ballot boxes with no slits.

4. While at these towns, we waited for the pickup van to show up. When it did, we videotaped the ballot boxes already in it.

5. When we got back to the archive building where they were having the recount, we awaited the van with the ballot boxes we just videotaped. We waited quite a while. Almost everyone left, the recount ended for the day, and still no van. The van finally pulled in after all but a couple observers had gone home. We videotaped what came out of the van. It was in the same condition as what we videotaped at the towns. Of course, Butch and Hoppy knew we had been taking videotape because we did it right in front of them.

6. The normal procedure has been: - bring the incoming ballot boxes into the front door of the building - roll them through the counting room, which is a large room similar to a library reference room - from there to roll the cart containing the incoming ballot boxes through the back door of the counting room - insert key card into the warehouse area door - roll the ballots down the hall in the warehouse - open the ballot "vault" door with a key (it is a sturdy metal door but opens with a single key) - put the incoming ballots in the vault - When they will be counted, take them from the vault back into the counting room.

What they did last night, with the incoming batch that we had photographed in the field, was roll them into the counting room. We waited. The handful of officials waited. These officials included Secretary of State Bill Gardner, Head of the Archive building Frank Mevers, Assistant secretary of state David Scanlan, Ballot transport drivers "Butch and Hoppy" (whose names are really Armand and Peter); Kucinich representatives Manny and Pat, a secretary of state assistant named, I think, Karen Hand.

They waited. We waited. It was very odd, to me at least. The ballots were sitting in the middle of the counting room, all these officials were standing around talking quietly with each other. I assumed they were waiting for something, results sheets perhaps. I decided to stay with video ready until the ballots were wheeled back to the vault.

One of the transport guys, "Hoppy" I think, then said that the ballots would not be taken to the vault that night because it was "closed" -- implying that whoever had the key was no longer there. Frank Mevers had the key. But I saw Frank Mevers. And the ballots had been moved to the vault even later the night before, because counting teams had stayed and counted up until about 7 pm.

So Sally and I waited. They affixed one of these post-it peelable labels on each front door and said everyone will leave out the back door and the order was given for all to leave. We filed out the back door. I asked Secretary of State Bill Gardner why there was a change in procedure. He did not answer. I asked him again. After about three tries, he just said "it's secure."

The handful of officials and the two Kucinich people hung around the back door. I asked more questions about why the ballots were being left in a room with no key card. They put one of the label stickers over the door and said "it's secure." I continued to wait with this small group of people. Finally they told us to leave and everyone left the building.

We got in our car and drove a ways away. Most of the people left. Bill Gardner and Anthony Stevens stayed around for a while, standing outside the loading bay talking. Then they left.

The upshot: The ballots we had videotaped in the van being transported, which arrived intact without slits, were not taken to the vault and were not kept in a location requiring keycard access last night (except that entering the building itself requires a keycard)

January 18, 2008 at 08:46:33

On the ground in NH: Recount Update

by Bev Harris Page 2 of 2 page(s)

www.opednews.com

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* * * * *

To put my concerns about this in context:

Paddy Shaffer and I arrived at the archive building on Tuesday afternoon prepared to videotape incoming ballots as they came in that afternoon and throughout the night. We were told the (in my opinion) contrived story that no videotaping would be permitted because mental patients from a hospital about a block away might wander into the parking lot/loading area. We made a point of pressuring Bill Gardner to have this ban lifted.

They had clearly been planning for ballots to begin arriving Tuesday. I asked Frank Mevers, head of the archive building, if he could walk us through the observation area where the ballot intake process would take place. At that point he went into the back, had a long phone call, and came out saying they wouldn't be delivering the ballots that night.

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TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-18   13:33:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TwentyTwelve (#30)

I really don't understand why this is allowed to go on. This is not the first year that there has been problems with ballots.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-01-18   14:06:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#32)

I really don't understand why this is allowed to go on. This is not the first year that there has been problems with ballots.

It continues because no one is stopping them.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-01-18   16:53:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: TwentyTwelve (#33)

It continues because no one is stopping them.

I think that's my point. I don't get why people as a whole allow this? What ever happened to integrity?

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