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Title: New and Newer Versions of Scripture
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w ... 630-2005Feb18?language=printer
Published: Feb 19, 2005
Author: Post
Post Date: 2005-02-19 11:07:16 by crack monkey
Keywords: Scripture, Versions, Newer
Views: 2125
Comments: 36

New and Newer Versions of Scripture

Saturday, February 19, 2005; Page B09

Criticism of Today's New International Version of the Bible began three years ago with the publication of the TNIV New Testament. Opponents accused the translation committee, an independent group of evangelical scholars, of bowing to political correctness and feminist theology in using "gender neutral" or "inclusive" language.

The committee made adjustments to the 2002 text before this month's publication of the complete Bible. But committee members said they did not abandon their goal of providing an accurate translation.

Critics call the effort a failure, many preferring TNIV's precursor, the best-selling New International Version published in 1978. Here are some passages they cite:

Isaiah 19:16

NIV: "In that day Egyptians will be like women. They will shudder with fear at the uplifted hand that the Lord Almighty raises against them."

TNIV: "In that day the Egyptians will become weaklings. They will shudder with fear at the uplifted hand that the Lord Almighty raises against them."

Hebrews 12:7

NIV: "Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?"

TNIV: "Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father?"

James 1:12

NIV: "Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him."

TNIV: "Blessed are those who persevere under trial, because when they have stood the test, they will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him."

Acts 20:30 (Paul is saying farewell to Ephesian elders)

NIV: "Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away the disciples after them."

TNIV: "Even from your own number some will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away the disciples after them."

Psalm 119:9

NIV: "How can a young man keep his way pure? By living according to your word."

TNIV: "How can those who are young keep their way pure? By living according to your word."

an example of a verse revised after release of the New Testament:

Mark 1:17 (Verse revised after release of the New Testament)

NIV: " 'Come, follow me,' Jesus said, 'and I will make you fishers of men.'"

TNIV (2002): " 'Come, follow me,' Jesus said, 'and I will send you out to catch people.' "

TNIV(2005): " 'Come, follow me,' Jesus said, 'and I will send you out to fish for people.' "

-- Bill Broadway

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#5. To: crack monkey (#0)

Opponents accused the translation committee, an independent group of evangelical scholars

Why exactly did this project necessitate a group of "translation scholars"?

A group of 10th graders could have done this. This doesnt even seem to require any translation at all. They are just substituting words that are already in english; making things gender neutral.

Rothbard  posted on  2005-02-19   12:29:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rothbard (#5)

I have no opinion on this. I just thought you guys would be interested. I've always been curious about how much of the bible was really lost in translation. I look at some of the Zen translations and they are all so different that it's hard to tell that they are from the same Japanese source, and they are coming from a modern language.

I also wonder how it was decided which books to toss out and which to keep at the Concordence of Worms back in about 800. I used to have a book with the disallowed books of the bible, e.g., the book of Mary, Jesus and the Dragon, a book supposedly by Mary Magdeline, etc.

What is you guy's opinion on the Gospel of Thomas the Contender?

Gospel of Thomas the Contender

crack monkey  posted on  2005-02-19   12:38:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: crack monkey (#6)

I also wonder how it was decided which books to toss out and which to keep at the Concordence of Worms back in about 800.

The oldest extant N.T. has 2 books in it that are not in the present Bible. Who took those 2 out I wonder.

1776  posted on  2005-02-19   18:22:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: 1776 (#25)

Which two books are those ??

Zipporah  posted on  2005-02-19   18:24:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: Zipporah (#26)

Which two books are those ??

Codex Sinaiticus is a 4th century manuscript of the New Testament. It also contains most of the Septuagint. It is at the British Library in London.

The two books of the New Testament that are in the Codex S. and missing from current N.T. are the Epistle of Barnabas and part of The Shepherd of Hermas.

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