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Title: The Curious Math of Hillary's "35 Years of Experience"
Source: The Huffington Post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-e ... ous-math-of-hilla_b_82028.html
Published: Jan 18, 2008
Author: Ari Emanuel
Post Date: 2008-01-18 19:12:15 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 336
Comments: 31

Hillary Clinton keeps talking about her 35 years of experience. "I am offering 35 years of experience making change," she said in New Hampshire. "I'm not just running on a promise of change, I'm running on 35 years of change." And she repeatedly mentioned the 35 years again in this week's debate in Las Vegas.

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Well, Senator Clinton, I'm confused. I've done the math. You're 60, which means that 35 years ago you were 25. And I Googled your name, looking for all the change you were making as a 25 year old and, frankly, I'm not finding much. You were going to Yale Law School at the time -- which I'm sure was a personally transformative experience, but it's hardly the kind of change that should count on one's Presidential Training Experience resume, is it? Is that when you started your personal Working-for-Change-O-Meter?

That summer, the summer of 1972, you campaigned in Texas for George McGovern's unsuccessful presidential bid. A worthy -- if ultimately futile -- endeavor to be sure, but a notch on your Years of Change belt? Kind of a stretch, don't you think?

But as liberal as you are with your Experience Arithmetic, you are awfully stingy when it comes to the experience and background of Barack Obama.

"He was a part-time state senator for a few years," you recently said of Obama, "and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she said. "And that's his prerogative. That's his right. But I think it is important to compare and contrast our records."

For starters, the state senate in Illinois is not a full-time job, but you make it sound like he was some kind of political temp worker, just filling in when someone called in sick. But leaving that aside, why is it that you get to count your time canvassing for McGovern as working for change, but Obama's time as a community organizer and public housing advocate aren't worthy of mention? And what about his time at Harvard Law (where he was the first black president in the history of the Harvard Law Review)? Doesn't count? But your time at Yale Law does? In the now immortal words of your husband: Give me a break.

I know you are good person who is devoted to public service. But that doesn't absolve you of the responsibility to not distort your record. And to not distort the record of your opponent.

Your 35 years talking point just doesn't add up.

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#3. To: robin (#0)

. "I am offering 35 years of experience making change,"

Author forgets to mention that Hillary was one of the prime diggers that buried Nixon.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-18   19:32:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#3)

Wasn't she more like a political groupie at that point in time?

robin  posted on  2008-01-18   19:41:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#7)

Wasn't she more like a political groupie at that point in time?

No. She worked on the legal team for Sandy Berger in the dems effort to take down Nixon.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-18   19:46:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#9)

For some reason I never thought her contributions were all that vital.

robin  posted on  2008-01-18   19:57:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#11)

She did the grunt work for Berger, rather much as a rabid dog. In fact she pushed very hard for the dems to not allow Nixon government paid lawyers. Even the dem congressmen would not go along with that.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-18   21:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

I think you mean Bernie Nussbaum, not Berger. wiki says she did research into impeachment.

In fact she pushed very hard for the dems to not allow Nixon government paid lawyers.

That does seem a bit unreasonable. Still for a woman who baked cookies and worked for Rose Law firm, I don't see how she can claim 35 years.

robin  posted on  2008-01-18   21:51:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#13)

"Hillary's main duty on our staff has been described by as "establishing the legal procedures to be followed in the course of the inquiry and impeachment." A number of the procedures she recommended were ethically flawed. And I also concluded that she had violated House and committee rules by disclosing confidential information to unauthorized persons.

Hillary had conferred personally with me regarding procedural rules. I advised her that Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, House Speaker Carl Albert, Majority Leader Tip O'Neill and I had previously agreed not to advocate anything contrary to the rules already adopted and published for that Congress. I quoted Mr. O'Neill's statement that: "To try to change the rules now would be politically divisive. It would be like trying to change the traditional rules of baseball before a World Series."

Hillary assured me that she had not drafted and would not advocate any such rules changes. I soon learned that she had lied: She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them.

In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon representation by counsel. This, though in our then-most-recent prior impeachment proceeding, the committee had afforded the right to counsel to Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas."

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-18   22:18:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#16) (Edited)

By far and away her most imp responsibility was keeping an ample supply of Shout stain remover readily available.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-01-18   22:23:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#18. To: Jethro Tull, robin (#17)

It is difficult to find info regarding she and Nixon. Much has disappeared.

I always remembered that her hate for Nixon was so great that she wanted Congress to forbid Nixon legal representation by government paid lawyers.

I was paying attention way back then.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-18 22:29:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

hahahahahaha

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