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Title: Warning on rising Med Sea levels
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7197379.stm
Published: Jan 19, 2008
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2008-01-19 00:25:26 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 4618
Comments: 130

Warning on rising Med Sea levels

Generic boat on Mediterranean Sea

Scientists noted sea temperatures had also risen significantly

The level of the Mediterranean Sea is rising rapidly and could increase by up to half a metre in the next 50 years, scientists in Spain have warned.

A study by the Spanish Oceanographic Institute says levels have been rising since the 1970s with the rate of increase growing in recent years.

It says even a small rise could have serious consequences in coastal areas.

The study noted that the findings were consistent with other investigations into the effects of climate change.

The study, entitled Climate Change in the Spanish Mediterranean, said the sea had risen "between 2.5mm and 10mm (0.1 and 0.4in) per year since the 1990s".

If the trend continued it would have "very serious consequences" in low-lying coastal areas even in the case of a small rise, and "catastrophic consequences" if a half-metre increase occurred, the study warned.

Global climate change

Scientists noted that sea temperatures had also risen significantly by 0.12 to 0.5C since the 1970s.

Sea level rise is a key effect of global climate change. There are two major contributory effects: the melting of ice, and expansion of sea water as the oceans warm.

Last month, a study by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said the world's sea levels could rise twice as much this century as UN climate scientists had previously predicted.

The Nobel Prize-winning IPCC predicted a maximum sea level rise of 81cm (32in) this century.

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#1. To: All, *Global Climate Change* (#0)

robin  posted on  2008-01-19   0:26:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#1)

Every year billions of tons of earth get washed into the sea, raising sea levels. In 100 million years, mountains become plains. Most people, except for the scientific, believe short term trends will continue.

Global temperature changes for number of reasons and none are man made. One is because the sun has a variable output another is due to the wobble of the earth. The current warm period will reverse in about 20 years and we will start a cooling trend that will make most humans wish it was warmer.

When certain astronomical events occur all at once, there will be another ice age and with our present technology man will be unable to prevent it. If an ice age occurs with man's present level of technology, billions of people will die. Well, they will die anyway; but the the death rate will exceed the birth rate to such an extent that the population of the earth will be billions less. We are advancing toward a Type I civilization. Such a civilization should be able to prevent an ice age.

DWornock  posted on  2008-01-19   1:57:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: DWornock (#3)

Global temperature changes for number of reasons and none are man made.

Most scientists agree that global warming is at least in part man made; and most of those who disagree are paid by Exxon.

We all need to keep an open mind. Most scientists are apolitical, but not all of them. I'm sure you can find politics involved on both sides, in an attempt to control us and lead us astray. Certainly Big Oil has obvious reasons for wanting to confuse the facts on this issue.

www.motherjones.com/news/.../05/some_like_it_hot.html
News: Forty public policy groups have this in common: They seek to undermine the scientific consensus that humans are causing the earth to overheat. And they all get money from ExxonMobil.

Cold comfort in British Antarctic deep ice core results

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A BBC News story reports findings from the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) that the rate of increase of atmospheric greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere is unprecedented, at least over the past 800,000 years.

Studying a deep ice core sample, the scientists have not only been able to measure the greenhouse gas concentrations in ancient atmospheres but also the average temperatures. The result, according to the BBC report, is that carbon dioxide concentration and temperature rise and fall in lockstep.

The report quotes BAS scientist Dr. Eric Wolff, who saw no signs that geological or biological systems have served as CO2 sinks to mitigate the increases.

Wolff told the BBC that the fastest observed increase in CO2 was about 30 parts per million (ppm) in 1000 years, in contrast to present circumstances in which "the last 30 ppm of increase has occurred in just 17 years. We really are in the situation where we don't have any analogue in our records."

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#5. To: robin (#4)

Most scientists agree that global warming is at least in part man made;

Oh really? Name one that is not bribed by research grants.

DWornock  posted on  2008-01-19   15:55:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: DWornock (#5)

I guess you didn't read the link or anything I just posted. There's really no point in discussing this subject with someone who has such a closed mind.

www.motherjones.com/news/.../05/some_like_it_hot.html
News: Forty public policy groups have this in common: They seek to undermine the scientific consensus that humans are causing the earth to overheat. And they all get money from ExxonMobil.

robin  posted on  2008-01-19   17:37:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#6)

I guess you didn't read the link or anything I just posted.

Oh! You mean like "most of those who disagree are paid by Exxon."
And, "They seek to undermine the scientific consensus that humans are causing the earth to overheat. And they all get money from ExxonMobil."

DWornock  posted on  2008-01-19   18:14:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: DWornock (#8) (Edited)

I didn't write that, it was at the link I provided, along with evidence. But there seems to be no point in posting research like the ice core samples and other evidence and links to evidence to you. Good luck with your further education brainwashing.

EXXONMOBIL’S FUNDING OF THINK TANKS hardly compares with its lobbying expenditures—$55 million over the past six years, according to the Center for Public Integrity.

Inhofe's 400 Global Warming Deniers Debunked
List of "Scientists" Includes Economists, Amateurs, TV Weathermen and Industry Hacks

Inhofe's list includes 413 people. (Score one Inhofe; the math holds up.)

84 have either taken money from, or are connected to, fossil fuel industries, or think tanks started by those industries.

robin  posted on  2008-01-19   18:24:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

What I can't understand is why these people are against alternative energy and wish to continue to rely on fossil fuels. It's bad enough we use fossil fuels for energy in regards to tranportation, but few even know that we produce all the plastics, most synthetic textiles, as well as food colorings from petroleum.

They somehow swallow the lie that the oil companies wish to ELIMINATE our reliance on oil, hence their alleged concern towards global warming. They think the "good guys" are those that ridicule those that show concern about global warming, even though most if not all of the supposed "scientists" that dismiss global warming are PAID by oil companies for their "research".

The brainwashing must be quite effective. I can see no other reason why people would be so carefree about the possibility that the earth's climate is being irreversibly affected, where soon, no matter what we do, it'll be too late to stop a runaway cycle of warming due to the oceans producing more CO2 from the higher tempertures. The more CO2 they produce, the warmer it gets, and the warmer it gets, the more CO2 they produce.

Just because it's cold this winter doesn't mean there isn't global warming. Global warming involves the tempertures of the oceans and of the atmosphere at higher elevations. It also involves changes in weather patterns, including more violent storms due to the higher retained energy of the planet's climate.

Of course, the melting of glaciers and the polar ice are strong indications that the earth isn't getting colder.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-19   18:48:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker (#10)

What I can't understand is why these people are against alternative energy and wish to continue to rely on fossil fuels.

Can you spell EXXON?

There are good economic and geopolitical reasons for alternative energy sources too.

Whatever science continues to learn about what is actually happening to the 3rd marble from the sun, we should remain open minded. Whenever someone claims they KNOW global climate change is NOT man made, I am instantly suspicious. They simply cannot KNOW that for a fact.

www.grida.no/climate/vital/19.htm

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#13. To: robin, FormerLurker (#11)

My opinion, for what it's worth: this is just another fear tactic the elite are using to push us in one direction or another. I don't claim to know what yet. But it isn't good. I'm not so worried about global warming. I'm worried about the mass fear of it.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   19:00:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye (#13)

I'm not so worried about global warming. I'm worried about the mass fear of it.

My concern is twofold. First is the fact that globnl warming is deadly serious, and if it IS true, could be fatal for mankind if allowed to continue unabated.

Secondly, I'm concerned that otherwise rational people are being conditioned to not be concered about the matter. The info IS conflicting, perhaps purposely so.

Regardless of individual motivations, it IS a fact that global warming is occuring, with natural events certainly playing a role, however it is more than likely ALSO true that man-made pollution is a factor as well.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-19   19:13:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: FormerLurker, buckeye (#18)

First is the fact that globnl warming is deadly serious, and if it IS true, could be fatal for mankind if allowed to continue unabated.

The risks are much greater with global cooling though. Nothing catastrophic happened during the medieval warm period and it was much warmer then. We even call it climate optimum. However, the little ice age was very devastating. Historically cooling periods have always been worse than warming periods. So if your concern were genuine you would be preparing for cooling.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-01-19   19:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#22)

The risks are much greater with global cooling though.

So global cooling is melting the glaciers and ice caps uh? And federal deficits are a good thing, as printing more money means everybody gets more of it, right?

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-01-19   19:18:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: FormerLurker (#25)

So global cooling is melting the glaciers and ice caps uh?

No that would be the increased sun spots over the last 3 sun cycles.

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