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Title: Worst Presidents Ever
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Published: Jan 19, 2008
Author: YertleTurtle
Post Date: 2008-01-19 13:25:55 by YertleTurtle
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In chronological order.

Lincoln, War Between the States.

Woodrow Wilson, WWI, Federal Reserve

FDR, WWII, New Deal

LBJ, Vietnam, Great Society

Bush, Afghanistan, Iraq, United State bankruptcy.

I suspect Bush will go down in history as the worst President ever.

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Lincoln, War Between the States.

Woodrow Wilson, WWI, Federal Reserve

FDR, WWII, New Deal

LBJ, Vietnam, Great Society

Bush, Afghanistan, Iraq, United State bankruptcy.

Please, permit me to repost slightly;

Washington, creation of the federal overlay states, which led directly into federalism/beginnings of the destruction of the Republic

Lincoln, Destruction of the Republic; War Between the States

Woodrow Wilson, Federal Reserve, first involvement in European affairs; WWI

FDR, New Deal, bankrupcy of US, WWII

Truman, atomic bomb dropped, start of war-without-end-Korea

To break into the top five, ol G. Bush would have to do considerably worse that he has. Just because you live during his reign does not make his actions worse. His father was far, far more damaging than he has been.

As to the worst of the worst? Without question, George Washington. He knew, even better than those who came later, exactly what he was doing.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-19   13:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Washington, creation of the federal overlay states, which led directly into federalism/beginnings of the destruction of the Republic

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Without question, George Washington.

Your explanation would be most welcome. This was constitutional, wasn't it?

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   13:55:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Without question, George Washington.

Your explanation would be most welcome.

I have posted details about this before, but remember this; the United States DID NOT begin with the Constitution. The United States was a confederation (remember the Confederate States of America in 1861?) before the Constitution was adopted.

The adoption of the Constitition was the beginning of the end of the Republic, AND, the Constitution WAS NOT an authorized act by those who wrote it. They far exceeded their authority in what they did; see the book; The CONstitution That Never Was.

In addition, I have posted before the paper I wrote on this subject as well; There is no Constitution; it is a carefully crafted illision.

That paper is posted here; http://www.brainwashington.info/othersites/Misc% 20Authors/Richard%20Gould/There%20is%20no%20Constitution%20Part%201.pdf

In that paper, I have all of the details about the order that Washington wrote creating the federal states. Enjoy.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-19   14:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is no Constitution; it is a carefully crafted illision.

I've heard of this view, although the story varies from having it in place for part of our history to your view that it never applied. I've heard that the proponents of this view are called "Bad Lockeans" by a scholars dedicated to multiculturalism.

I think I might be a Bad Lockean, as well.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   14:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

to your view that it never applied.

Oh, no! I certainly do not think that! The problem is in understanding HOW it applies. That, is the secret.

The Constitution is a contratual document, which means that anyone who wishes to participate in the creature that was created with/by the Constitution is welcome to contract into the created jurisdiction.

That was the purpose of the 14th Amendment; to create an easier method of entry into the jurisdiction. Welcome to United States citizenship.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-19   14:25:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You might have some notions about getting OUT of the contract and becoming 'sovereign' again that you would share?

FOH  posted on  2008-01-19   14:34:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You might have some notions about getting OUT of the contract and becoming 'sovereign' again that you would share?

Yes, and no. That is not something that you share; it is something that you learn and live.

Unless people do the background studies, which takes years, it is dangerous to give them a solution that they are neither ready for nor educated to enforce.

And, even if they have the knowledge to enforce it, you still must enforce it in 'their' courts. Care to try that? I no longer wish to, which leads us to what the real solution is.

I have seen no evidence in 4um that there is more than one or two who are willing to listen to that solution, and, they have already, as far as I know, moved to that.

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