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Title: Romney wins in Nevada caucuses
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URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22739349/
Published: Jan 19, 2008
Author: not stated
Post Date: 2008-01-19 13:43:22 by christine
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Views: 1886
Comments: 150

WASHINGTON - Republican Mitt Romney won Nevada's caucuses Saturday while John McCain and Mike Huckabee dueled in the South Carolina primary, a campaign doubleheader likely to winnow the crowded field of presidential rivals.

Democrats shared the stage in Nevada, where Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama vied for a caucus victory and the campaign momentum that goes with it.

Romney's western victory marked two straight successes, coming after a win in the Michigan primary earlier in the week that revived his campaign.

Alone among the Republican contenders, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas aired television ads in Nevada, and the libertarian-leaning Texan looked for his best showing of the campaign season.

Nevada offered more delegates but far less appeal to the Republican candidates than South Carolina, a primary that has gone to the party's eventual nominee every four years since 1980.

That made it a magnet for former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, who staked his candidacy on a strong showing, as well as for Romney, McCain, the Arizona senator; and Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas.

Weather troubles and the polls Polls in South Carolina opened Saturday at 7 a.m. with many areas seeing rain coming down. A poll manager in Mount Pleasant said it would be difficult to predict what the inclement weather would do to voter turnout. In the northern reaches of the state up to three inches of snow was forecast, which threatened to slow the region to a crawl.

"My friends, these are challenging times," John McCain told supporters Friday while aboard a World War II aircraft carrier in Charleston's harbor. He was referring to the slumping economy, but he could have been talking about the intensity and the expense of the neck-and-neck fight for the GOP nomination.

To the East, Republicans battled for delegates in South Carolina, home of 6.6 percent unemployment in December after the largest one-month increase in nearly 20 years. Political viability was at stake for McCain, Mike Huckabee and Fred Thompson; Mitt Romney, meanwhile, lowered expectations for his prospects in the Palmetto State by moving on to Nevada.

To the West, candidates of both parties braced for caucuses in Nevada that for Democrats have been mired in legal disputes and exchanges about race. The uncertainty stemmed in large part from earlier-than-usual voting in the nation's fastest-growing state.

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#1. To: christine, Sparker (#0)

"My friends, these are challenging times," John McCain told supporters Friday while aboard a World War II aircraft carrier in Charleston's harbor.

I would prefer it if he not patronize me by suggesting that I might be his friend, especially when he has repeatedly tried to sell out my country.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   13:45:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeye, Ron Paul tied with McCain right now for 2nd place (#1)

that mcCain is getting any votes galls me.

christine  posted on  2008-01-19   13:50:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#2)

The big challenge we have is to deprogram our fellow citizens without engaging in similarly unscrupulous tactics. As Mary Starrett, communications director of the Constitution Party and former KATU & KPDQ media personality says, the truth doesn't matter if the media doesn't reinforce it, or chooses to dismiss it.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   13:52:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeye (#4)

Mary Starrett

Ah yes, She Who Has Irked The NW Media.

Portland and Seattle are so left-wing they make Hillary look like Barry Goldwater.

mirage  posted on  2008-01-19   14:03:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mirage, Sparker (#9)

Portland and Seattle are so left-wing they make Hillary look like Barry Goldwater.

Starrett riled up the leftist secular media as well as the right-wing evangelicals. I like this very much.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   14:19:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeye (#17)

Starrett riled up the leftist secular media as well as the right-wing evangelicals.

More than that, she's even got the local conservative talk-show hosts riled up, mostly over her "Dump Bush" stance. Not a bad thing, but she needs to tone it down a bit to get her message out.

mirage  posted on  2008-01-19   14:25:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mirage (#19)

Not a bad thing, but she needs to tone it down a bit to get her message out.

I've been more vocal than she has about wanting Bush-Cheney impeached. I think she gives authority to the anti-establishment movement, and is a credit to those who openly disbelieve the Bush administration whenever it speaks.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   14:32:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeye (#24)

Fair enough, but one must follow the adage "adapt, migrate, or die" when dealing with others.

The message can still get out, but it has to be toned and phrased appropriately for the venue.

Of course, Portland and Seattle are towns where "Buck Fush" bumper stickers and "Kerry/Edwards" stickers are everywhere...still...but the liberal media won't talk to Starrett and the conservative media thinks she's a nutjob.

The trick is to not be declared a nutjob so you are invited on to get your message out. That's the problem with people who are seriously into what they believe -- and forget that not everyone shares the same passion.

Thus, the message is quashed and never gets out. It has to be made palatable to plant the seeds and then watered and fertilized frequently.

mirage  posted on  2008-01-19   14:36:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mirage (#25)

Thus, the message is quashed and never gets out.

My evaluation of this statement is that it occurs whenever the truth gets a little too clear. It's not the messenger, or the vehicle of the message that elicits this response: it's the clarity of the message and its potential to undermine the establishment.

She was inside the beast alerting us to its machinations. They spat her out.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   14:38:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeye (#27)

She was inside the beast alerting us to its machinations. They spat her out.

Yes, but remember, if the message cannot get out to the people, it will never be heard.

Sometimes, one has to play the game in order to do what is right.

mirage  posted on  2008-01-19   14:41:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mirage (#28)

I think she's still having an impact, but I understand your concern.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   14:43:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeye (#29)

I think she's still having an impact

I live in the PNW and believe me, Starrett has been censored. Even Lars Larson, local conservative/libertarian firebrand, has issues with her. When Lars has Mary on his show, it ends up in a fight.

This is not how to get a message out.

mirage  posted on  2008-01-19   14:45:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mirage (#31)

She's apparently now in patriotic rage mode. Righteous indignation a persuasive person does not make.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-19   14:47:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeye (#32)

She's apparently now in patriotic rage mode. Righteous indignation a persuasive person does not make.

On the contrary, righteous indignation, properly harnessed, makes a VERY persuasive person.

Starrett needs to learn how to properly harness her rage and indignation to make a persuasive argument.

Once she works that out, she'll be able to work miracles. People tend to give a lot of value to an argument that people passionately believe in and will give it a second or third look.

mirage  posted on  2008-01-19   14:55:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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