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Title: Hal Turner: FBI spy (He Resigned...)
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URL Source: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/ ... er-accused-of-working-for-fbi/
Published: Jan 19, 2008
Author: Lefty prick, right?
Post Date: 2008-01-19 23:14:39 by Mekons4
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New Jersey radio host Hal Turner is well known as one of the most vicious neo-Nazis in America, a man who routinely suggests killing his enemies. Hal TurnerRailing against President Bush, he told his audience last June that “a well-placed bullet can solve a lot of problems.” He has written that “we need to start SHOOTING AND KILLING Mexicans as they cross the border” and argued that killing certain federal judges “may be illegal, but it wouldn’t be wrong.” In 2006, after he published an attack on New Jersey Supreme Court justices that also included several of their home addresses, state police massively beefed up security for the members of the court, checking on one justice’s house more than 200 times. Hal Turner is one serious extremist. He may also be on the FBI payroll. On Jan. 1, unidentified hackers electronically confronted Turner in the forum of his website for “The Hal Turner Show.” After a heated exchange, they told Turner that they had successfully hacked into his server and found correspondence with an FBI agent who is apparently Turner’s handler. Then they posted an alleged July 7 E-mail to the agent in which Turner hands over a message from someone who sent in a death threat against Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.). “Once again,” Turner writes to his handler, “my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out a possible crazy.” In what is allegedly a portion of another E-mail, Turner discusses the money he is paid. On Thursday, as the E-mail exchange was heatedly discussed on a major neo-Nazi website, Turner suddenly announced he was quitting political work. “I hereby separate from the ‘pro-White’ movement,” he said, adding that he was ending his radio show immediately. “I will no longer involve myself in any aspect of it.” The FBI declined comment. “Longstanding FBI policy prohibits disclosing who may or may not provide information,” Agent Richard Kolko of the agency’s press unit said. Reached in New Jersey, Turner also declined all comment. The apparent revelation set off a torrent of criticism from experts in criminology and the use of informants. “This is clearly over the line,” said James Nolan, an associate sociology professor at West Virginia University who is an expert in police procedure and a former unit chief in the FBI’s Crime Analysis, Research and Development Unit. “Informants may be involved in drugs, and you overlook that because of the greater good. However, these are viable threats — they could be carried out — that the FBI clearly knows about. I want to see the FBI stop it.” Informants, of course, are commonly used by law enforcement agencies that have no other way of proving suspected criminal activity. “These are frightening groups whose members deserve to be investigated and infiltrated,” said Jack Levin, a criminology professor and expert on the radical right at Northeastern University. “My concern is that Turner’s methods actually are more dangerous and destructive than the evil they are seeking to cure. His threatening messages may actually inspire neo-Nazis to up the ante, to engage in even more destructive behavior.” Turner, 45, has developed a reputation as one of the hardest-line racists on the radical right since starting up his radio show seven years ago. He has routinely ranted about such things as a “Portable Nigger Lyncher” machine and slimed those he hates as “savage Negro beasts,” “bull-dyke lesbians,” “faggots” and worse. But it is his threats that are legendary. In 2006, Turner told his audience to “clean your guns, have plenty of ammunition … [and] then do what has to be done” to undocumented workers. Around the same time, he suggested that half the U.S. Congress “may have to be assassinated.” A year earlier, he suggested “drawing up lists of yeshivas,” or Jewish religious schools. He once started a website called www.killtheenemy.com for the purpose of posting photos and names of those who marched in favor of immigrant rights. Hearing that anti-racist activist Floyd Cochran was visiting Newark, N.J., last June, Turner said he had “arranged for a group of guys to physically intercept” Cochran and added that Cochran would likely “get such a beating that his next stop is going to be University Hospital.” In a July letter, Turner wrote to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which publishes the Intelligence Report: “If you do not change your stance soon, you will face a wrath of fury that you will never be able to defend yourself against. We have the ability to reach out and touch someone.” Last July, Turner posted photographs of a pro-immigrant activist being taken away by an ambulance outside Turner’s North Bergen home. “Click the images below to see how I kicked the shit out of one such douchebag,” he wrote. Reaction on the radical right to the apparent revelation was mixed, as activists tried to figure out if Turner really was an informant. But to many, there was little question it was Turner, based on the style of writing in the E-mails. “It does sound like Hal,” wrote “Varg” on the Vanguard News Network, a neo-Nazi website. “I agree,” responded “Yankee Jim.” “The Email definitely sounds like Hal.” Turner’s alleged E-mail to his FBI handler is also addressed to a detective sergeant with the New Jersey State Police who trained with the FBI Police Executive Fellowship Program in 2004. Interestingly, as long ago as May 2006, Turner wrote of a visit paid to him by the two men, saying they had come to his house to warn him that “Washington has instructed us to close you down.” In that same posting on his website, Turner described himself as the type to inspire “a whole slew of potential Timothy McVeighs. I don’t make bombs,” he added, “I make bombers.” “It’s become so routine,” Turner said of FBI visits in a 2005 interview with The (Hackensack, N.J.) 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#1. To: Mekons4 (#0)
Gosh Who'd a thunk that the goobermunt would use a racist windbag as an Agent Provocateur and a snitch? I wonder what Rush Limbaugh thinks about this?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Pills got his wakeup call a week after he had cheney on his show and disagreed with him on amnesty. A week later he got popped at the airport. I thought it was funny how he prattled on about telling the TSA screener about how he had dinner with his/her boss a week earlier. I imagine the screener was thinking "Yeah, fuckface, how else do you think we knew where to nab you." The lesson here is don't try to prop up your sagging ratings by taking your real boss to task on air.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
I think it was about 8 to 9 years ago now that I figured out that Limbaugh was PsyOps/Disinfo. Limbaugh is very smooth about it but once you understand his technique he might as well advertise what he is doing. His favorite maneuver seems to be the "alternative" conclusion i.e., a set of data can point at an obvious conclusion involving the corruption of his bosses and he will spin it away into some other less likely conclusion but do a great job of selling it to the suckers. Anyone who tells me that they pay attention to Limbaugh, on anything, immediately gets filed as a terminal sucker. Limbaugh is simply not credible - on anything. He wasn't gobbling all that Hillbilly Heroin because he had an easy conscience.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Anti-semetism is a JEWISH CREATION. The vermin use it for political gain through implementation of the Hegelian dialectic. The State of Israel is the prime example of how these parasites use anti-semetism to obtain their objectives.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Same here. I used to enjoy listening to him, but I cannot stand him anymore. I shut him off for good when he said our troops were just blowing off steam and engaging in pranks at Abu Ghraib, but I started despising him earlier than that. I dont even know Hal Turner, but it makes sense that he is bought and paid for by the FBI. People with big mouths attract others with big mouths, and it's easy to get these suckers to say things that could get them in trouble later.
I have for a long time thought the more extreme ones were government-created, which is why I think the 9-11 Truther conspiriacies were created by the government of divert attention from the real problems. People always fall for conspiracies, no matter how ludicrous.
Kittens aren't biscuits just because a cat gives birth in an oven.
Hell I wouldn't doubt it if at least one poster on this forum was Gestapo, especially folks that suddenly want to "meet" you when you are completely unknown to them or have had no correspondence with them here before.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx I recall the precise sentence that made me realize Limbaugh was a faker. He said he got a call from "Alan Greenscum" to discuss the economy the night before. I thought, wtf is Greenscum talking to this radio show host for ???
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
I'm not about to defend Turner, especially since he hasn't defended himself to date, but lets pause to consider that the SPLC is involved with this outing, and Turner is still openly doing business on the net, using the same domain HERE. It's unusual to say the least that an FBI asset doesn't 'move on' when outed. Turner hasn't moved anywhere and still publicly posts his home address.
Patton Speech Your tagline reminded me of this speech.
I wonder what Rush Limbaugh thinks about this? **belly laugh**
Honi soit qui mal y pense
While I am never going to figure out how the cops knew Oswald was in that theater (since no one saw him or knew what he looked like), I am never going to say George Bush was there at the time, George Bush worked for the CIA, therefore George Bush killed John Kennedy. Conspiracies exist, but they generally have a major profit motive. Otherwise, people rat them out. I believe that the Black Box Voting thing is real, because the conspirators had the vision of billions in profits to gain, not to mention sales of the machines overseas, but where is the money in 9/11? Inventing a bogus conspiracy is the best way possible to make people who uncover real ones look like "moonbats."
Honi soit qui mal y pense
Well, anti-Semitism exists, but that has almost zero to do with Israel. That's political. Israel is a fascist bully, and few neighbors like a fascist bullying them. I've lost a couple of Jewish friends who claim the only reason people don't like Israel is because it's populated by Jews. I ask them, so the only reason people didn't like South Africa is because the government was White Christian? They don't like that comparison.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
Money is not the only motivation for the people pulling these strings - they have all the money they need - more than they could spend in a hundred lifetimes. The motivation is control over people i.e., power. Although there was plenty of money made off of 911: There was the shortselling to the tune of at least hundreds of billions based on foreknowledge. It would have cost at least a hundred million to demolish those two old towers that were near the end of their useful lifespan. Lucky Larry Silverstein made a pile off of the insurance companies. The 2.3 Trillion missing from the Pentagon got buried. The Military Industrial Complex is getting fat off more bloated corpses resulting from the wars justified with 911 as a pretext. Iraq's Oil is kept OFF THE MARKET thus fueling the run-up in Oil Prices. There was a couple billion in gold bullion that got recovered from the ruins and disappeared. The looting of Iraqi antiquities for sale on the black market. Several truckloads of cash from Saddam's stockpiles of American Dollars. I'm sure I'm missing some but that is a lot of money made off of 911. However the Alpha Plutocrats pulling the strings are more interested in Power and control rather more money. Do you think the Patriot Act would have passed without 911? How about Vaterland Sekurity? Would people have willingly accepted a Gestapo Agency? NSA Spying on ordinary citizens under the guise of fighting terror (but really to locate people who might pose a problem to a tyranny)? You cannot look at the people doing these kinds of things with the same filters through which you view ordinary criminals. They are criminals - but they make Al Capone look like "Small Change". They are however every bit as psychotic. If you expect the top dog psychos to behave as a sane person would you will continue to miss the forest for the trees.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I thought, wtf is Greenscum talking to this radio show host for ??? Exactly. He wouldn't talk to a lowly Talk Show Host unless there was a reason other than to have the Chairman of the Fed give the exalted Rush Limbazoid "background". Most likely he was telling Rush how he was going to spin things. No Limbazoid and his Dildoeheads are Puppeteer and Wooden-headed Marionettes.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Thanks. Glad to have provided a little relief from the morass.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
There's a plethora of credible evidence available that implicates Bush as a conspirator in the Kennedy am-bush. Conspiracies exist, but they generally have a major profit motive. How about the takeover of America ? Why don't you gate-keep somewhere else you phony son of a bitch ! Edit: This post (mine) has nothing to do with Hal Turner. I have no comment regarding Turner.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Yeah, let me introduce you to Mekons 4 "Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Edit: This post (mine) has nothing to do with Hal Turner. I have no comment regarding Turne Take your mental problems elsewhere. No comment about Turner, eh? VERRRRRRRY suspicious. Sounds like an acolyte who has been abused, to me. You know in your heart you're a neo-nazi. Go back to FRetard City, where your loonitude is accepted.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
I don't know enough about Turner to comment. Sure I know he's a rabid Jew hater, I just don't know whether he's an FBI plant or not. I do know that several times I wanted to out you as a slimeball Jew or a wannabe. Your perpetual support for the Jew agenda is suffocating. I think I may have lasted 3 days at FR (if that's the one RimJob runs) and that was about 8 years ago. That place would be much more to your liking and agenda, they're Jew boot-lickers.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
You are a very stupid person. Please show me where I have supported Israel. You are a dumb cuntboy.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
How about Vaterland Sekurity? Would people have willingly accepted a Gestapo Agency? NSA Spying on ordinary citizens under the guise of fighting terror (but really to locate people who might pose a problem to a tyranny)? exactly The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
You are a very stupid person. Please show me where I have supported Israel. You are a dumb cuntboy. Can't find a thing, eh, stupid cuntboy? You lying pig.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
That's for Mr. Stupid Noone, not for all. He or she has a problem reading English. Deport the mother.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)
I wonder what Rush Limbaugh thinks about this?
#3. To: orangedog (#2)
#4. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#5. To: Original_Intent (#3)
I think it was about 8 to 9 years ago now that I figured out that Limbaugh was PsyOps/Disinfo.
#6. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#7. To: christine, nobody222 (#0)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#8. To: Original_Intent (#3)
I think it was about 8 to 9 years ago now that I figured out that Limbaugh was PsyOps/Disinfo.
#9. To: All (#0)
#10. To: noone222 (#8)
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#11. To: Original_Intent (#1)
Gosh Who'd a thunk that the goobermunt would use a racist windbag as an Agent Provocateur and a snitch?
#12. To: YertleTurtle (#6)
which is why I think the 9-11 Truther conspiriacies were created by the government of divert attention from the real problems.
#13. To: noone222 (#4)
Anti-semetism is a JEWISH CREATION. The vermin use it for political gain through implementation of the Hegelian dialectic. The State of Israel is the prime example of how these parasites use anti-semetism to obtain their objectives.
#14. To: Mekons4 (#12)
...but where is the money in 9/11?
#15. To: noone222 (#8)
I recall the precise sentence that made me realize Limbaugh was a faker. He said he got a call from "Alan Greenscum" to discuss the economy the night before.
#16. To: Mekons4 (#11)
**belly laugh**
#17. To: Mekons4 (#12)
(Edited)
George Bush worked for the CIA, therefore George Bush killed John Kennedy
#18. To: IndieTX (#7)
(Edited)
Hell I wouldn't doubt it if at least one poster on this forum was Gestapo,
#19. To: noone222 (#17)
Why don't you gate-keep somewhere else you phony son of a bitch !
#20. To: Mekons4 (#19)
No comment about Turner, eh? VERRRRRRRY suspicious. Go back to FRetard City, where your loonitude is accepted.
#21. To: noone222 (#20)
I do know that several times I wanted to out you as a slimeball Jew or a wannabe. Your perpetual support for the Jew agenda is suffocating.
#22. To: Original_Intent, Mekons4, Yertle Turtle (#14)
Do you think the Patriot Act would have passed without 911?
#23. To: All (#21)
I do know that several times I wanted to out you as a slimeball Jew or a wannabe. Your perpetual support for the Jew agenda is suffocating.
#24. To: All (#23)
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