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Title: The Power of Nightmares - BBC Documentary (Must watch, it's worse than we thought, folks)
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URL Source: http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?e ... id=1073756275&vid=213659&b=157
Published: Jan 23, 2008
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2008-01-23 14:23:16 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)

BBC is the news organization that reported that WTC7 collapsed a full 30 minutes before it did. Now they make a documentary that says the Muslims did it, but they are all dead now. Yeah, whatever! They are again covering for the real culprits of 9/11. They know who told them that WTC7 collpased 30 minutes before it did, but you don't see them making a story out of that, nope, that will never happen. They are owned, as most MSM outlets are, by the very people responsible for 9/11.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-01-23   15:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

I'd forgotten a lot of this crap.

Only serves to remind of I why so passionately wish to see a stake in the heart this Plutocrat party of betrayers come November.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-23   18:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine, RickyJ, iconoclast, FOH, robin, Zipporah, Dakmar, Critter, lodwick, Cynicom, who knows what evil, Hayek Fan, Sparker (#0) (Edited)

Excellent film, Christine. I can summarize it in a a few sentences:

  1. Due to an acceptance of the precautionary principle, government officials are now apt to accept the darkest predictions without benefit of proof (David Cole, Georgetown University). Note the link to the neophyte global warming community in past decades!
  2. NeoCons and Islamists are the world's last idealists. (David Johnston, New York Times.) Warning: I am uncertain that I'm crediting him correctly, but the idea was expressed.
  3. Grand ideas have lost their appeal to modern societies, and the lack of belief in anything exposes populations to fear of those with strong beliefs. (Bill Durodie, King's College).
  4. This crisis too, will pass. Real solutions will be proven lacking. (The film's narrator, presumably an idea shared by Adam Curtis.)
This film clarifies what Ron Paul means by saying that the biggest moral failing of our time is the notion of preemptive war. The political leadership among the NeoCons will assume anything, believe anything, base their plans on the slightest notion that there could be a threat. This in turn, gives them a purpose to hand to the people they had been unable to keep in their sway.

One of the qualities Ron Paul brings to our particular situation is the notion that rational processes should be foremost in guiding national and international policies, especially in life or death situations, and in situations involving civil liberties.

I think we in the pro-liberty movement can take similar inspiration: those with the darkest imaginations are not necessarily the ones to be given the most influence.

What I found most interesting was the alleged link the film makes between environmentalism's activists of former periods (in the global warming camp in particular) and the precautionary principle movement. The notion is that we can't wait until we understand a perceived threat before acting on our limited understanding of it.

We appear to be overcome by the peddlers of fear. I think this is the most positive aspect of Ron Paul's campaign, and possibly the hardest to explain. He wants to set us free from irrational fears so that we can concentrate on specific, well-justified efforts. I hope to spread this idea around the campaign somehow, so please pass it on. To communicate this message, we must take care not to be using the same fear-mongering tactics of our political rivals.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-26   12:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeye (#3)

Thanks for this synopsis. This is a must see. As I recall Zipporah posted it when it was first broadcast.

There are so many fine efforts that should all be reposted every 3 months or so.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   12:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

Thanks C, I just wish I could remember all this as I'm responding to the HuckleHeads.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   13:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Dakmar (#5)

I'm responding to the HuckleHeads

Well I'm sure the hay foot - straw foot types learn more from audio/video presentations.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#3)

Bill Durodié is Senior Lecturer in Risk and Corporate Security at the Defence College of Management and Technology, Cranfield University, part of the Defence Academy of the United Kingdom.... He is a Fellow of the Royal Society for the Arts (FRSA), an Associate Fellow of Chatham House (the Royal Institute of International Affairs)

The RIIA is linked the CFR.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-26   15:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeye (#3)

Due to an acceptance of the precautionary principle, government officials are now apt to accept the darkest predictions without benefit of proof

"Precautionary principle" my ass.

Due to an acceptance of the precautionary principle the fact that Big Fear feeds the Big Government Pols they eagerly feed those fears by promoting the darkest predictions without benefit of proof

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-26   17:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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