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Title: Minuteman cancellation triggers free speech grumbles
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North County Times
URL Source: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/200 ... ws/top_stories/62005203542.txt
Published: Jun 22, 2005
Author: GIG CONAUGHTON
Post Date: 2005-06-22 11:08:45 by Mr Nuke Buzzcut
Keywords: cancellation, Minuteman, triggers
Views: 134
Comments: 8
Minuteman cancellation triggers free speech grumbles By: GIG CONAUGHTON - Staff Writer ENCINITAS - City of Encinitas and county sheriff's officials were accused Monday of squashing First Amendment rights after demanding that a local political club pay $15,000 for security to allow a controversial leader of the anti-illegal-immigration Minuteman Group to speak. Craig Nordal, leader of the neophyte North Coast Republican Club, said the club voted Monday to indefinitely postpone Wednesday's political fund-raising talk by Jim Gilchrist, leader of the Minuteman Project. Gilchrist and the Minuteman Project caused a national furor in April when they sent volunteers into the Arizona desert near Tombstone to look for illegal immigrants trying to cross into the United States. Immigration-rights critics called the project vigilantism that was making border problems worse. Nordal said city and sheriff's officials were so concerned that Gilchrist would draw protesters to the Encinitas Community Center that they told the club they would have to hire an entire platoon of sheriff's deputies ---- 48 in all ---- to provide security. Nordal said the $15,000 price tag was impossible for the club to swallow. "I don't blame the city of Encinitas or the sheriff's department," Nordal said. "But the effect is that our First Amendment right is being squelched." Gilchrist also objected, and blamed the city, the sheriff's department and protesters who would intimidate people to keep them away. "It's a blatant attempt to suppress freedom of assembly," Gilchrist said. "It's getting more and more obvious to me that our First Amendment has pretty much been compromised by the people who will kill you, or beat you up, or show up and smash car windows with bricks. This is serious. It's no longer a country ruled by law." City of Encinitas officials did not return several phone calls Monday. Lt. Don Fowler, second in command at the sheriff's Encinitas station, said the department and city routinely charged groups when their events required "extra" security beyond normal police protection. Nordal said he understood the city's security concerns, and that he notified the FBI and the sheriff's department when Gilchrist agreed to come to Encinitas to speak. Encinitas is one of nine cities in the county that hires the sheriff's department to provide law enforcement. Fowler said the city was within its rights to charge a fee because it was an event that would have taken place at a city facility ---- the community center. "If this was on private property, it would be different," Fowler said. "I understand the unhappiness. But the intent was not to prohibit free speech." Like Nordal and Gilchrist, Peter Scheer of the California First Amendment Coalition said he was troubled by the city's action. Scheer said it was reasonable for the city to charge groups for security measures if they were holding them on city-owned property. But Scheer added that there is an expectation that the cost won't be so high that it discourages events from taking place. "When the American Communist Party or the Ku Klux Klan go marching down the avenues of New York City, there are police around ---- and that cost can't just be shifted to the sponsors of the events," Scheer said. Scheer said shifting those costs would effectively prevent controversial events ---- protected by the First Amendment's right to free speech and free assembly. He said cities and towns have to pick up some of the tab. "It's the cost of doing business under the U.S. Constitution," Scheer said. Fowler said city and sheriff's officials were concerned that the high cost of security would effectively censure events. But he said Gilchrist and anti-illegal-immigration leaders had attracted violent protests in the past, and that the demand for a "platoon" to provide security was reasonable. Gilchrist said he was too busy to mount a fight with Encinitas officials. Nordal noted that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and President George W. Bush have lauded the Minuteman movement. He said his club hoped to use Gilchrist's speaking engagement to raise money for local Republican efforts. He said his club still planned to have Gilchrist speak in Encinitas, and would search for a private venue. "Again, I don't want to come across as anti-sheriff and anti-city of Encinitas," Nordal said. "But one way or another, we'll get this thing done."
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#1. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)
Oh this is nice.. the backdoor way of trying to depict them as being aligned with the Klan or the Communists?? What BS.
what a fool this man Nordal is. He is faced directly in his face with fascists and he licks their boot.
It's the classic example of the smear tactic.
I didn't realize the the MMP was government funded like those two.
Mr Gilchrist you condemned and smeared any pro-Whites who wished to assist in that operation and you thought that would make you look good to the people whose goal is the destruction of America via demographic change. The strength of the vampire is that no one believes in him.
Somehow Bush's calling them vigilantes doesn't sound like much praise to me.
Maybe he misunderstands the meaning of the word "lauded"?
Encinitas is a very nice mostly middle to upper middle-class neighborhood. It is down the hill from well-to-do Fairbanks Ranch. Many who live here would be happy in San Francisco. Several years ago, when the residents of Encinitas were unhappy about seeing illegals on every street corner, they built a place for them to congregate. From there, anyone could stop and hire them. Now it was no longer necessary to look at them. There is an old, small (but growing) latino community, that sometimes causes a few problems at the very good mostly white school district. Politically Correct Encinitas would view MMP as too rough and tumble for them. They prefer to handle their community's problems internally. They became a city rather recently, just to separate themselves from San Diego and its problems. Leave them to their imaginary vacuum.
"Somebody sends me a blue dress and some DNA, I'll have an investigation" Porter Goss, regarding Valerie Plame leak, October 2003 [The Herald Tribune]"When the American Communist Party or the Ku Klux Klan go marching down the avenues of New York City, there are police around ---- and that cost can't just be shifted to the sponsors of the events," Scheer said.
#2. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)
"I don't blame the city of Encinitas or the sheriff's department," Nordal said.
#3. To: Zipporah (#1)
#4. To: Zipporah (#1)
American Communist Party or the Ku Klux Klan
#5. To: PC Gilchrist (#0)
"It's a blatant attempt to suppress freedom of assembly," Gilchrist said. "It's getting more and more obvious to me that our First Amendment has pretty much been compromised by the people who will kill you, or beat you up, or show up and smash car windows with bricks. This is serious. It's no longer a country ruled by law."
Looks like selling out aware Whites wasn't a viable position after all.
Good luck.
#6. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)
Nordal noted that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and President George W. Bush have lauded the Minuteman movement.
#7. To: lodwick (#6)
#8. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, *The Border* (#0)
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