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Title: Farmer hides castle from building inspectors
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080125 ... t=Ajc.ZYl4gzkaOlvcuYpkdL3tiBIF
Published: Jan 25, 2008
Author: Peter Apps
Post Date: 2008-01-26 00:23:39 by Dakmar
Keywords: None
Views: 915
Comments: 45

LONDON (Reuters) - A farmer built an entire mock castle behind a screen of hay bales and lived there concealed for four years to evade planning regulations, officials said on Friday -- but it may be torn down anyway.

Robert Fidler hopes to take advantage of a provision of planning law that allows buildings without planning permission to be declared legal if no objections have been made after four years

But Reigate and Banstead Borough Council in Surrey is not impressed.

"It does not count because the property was hidden behind hay bales," said a spokeswoman. "No one knew it was there."

The council wants the building near Redhill some 30 km south of London to be demolished, along with an associated conservatory, marquee structure, wooden bridge, patio, decking and tarmac racecourse.

"It looks like a mock-Tudor house from the front and it's got two turrets at the back," the spokeswoman said. "I understand there is also a cannon."

The couple would have been unlikely to get planning permission as the farm was in "green belt" land where building was restricted, she said. A hearing takes place in February.

Fidler's wife Linda told the Daily Mail newspaper the children grew up looking at straw out of the windows of the house and that they kept their son away from playschool on the day his class were due to do paintings of their houses.

"We couldn't have him drawing a big blue haystack," she said. "People might ask questions."

Planning inspectors had been called to the site by concerned neighbours shortly before Fidler took the hay bales down in summer 2006 but had not seen the house.

"When the inspectors went there, all they saw was hay bales and hay bales on agricultural land are not that unusual," the spokeswoman said.

"I think the neighbours thought there might be something going on but it is difficult to tell, isn't it?"

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#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

and sunbeams never made like me...:)

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Dakmar (#5)

and sunbeams never made like me...:)

...and don't expect me to lie....:)

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa058.html#1

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-26   14:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

and don't expect me to lie.

Bravo, my friend, you bring the fingerpaint to our next picnic.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

Don't expect any thanks.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#8)

The Who - Young Man Blues

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: who knows what evil (#9)

power trio bliss ping

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Dakmar (#9)

The What If's

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPkAU2m-WRI

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
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robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#11)

Her big ole titties look almost nekkid!

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Dakmar (#12)

Where The Bloody Hell Are You?

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
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robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#13)

The Dingos are well fed.

That's all I needed to know.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Dakmar (#13) (Edited)

When i'm sixty-four

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#15)

you know in the old days...when a young man was a strong man... :)

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#15)

Why Do You Want to Be Famous?

Who, What, Where, When, Why.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Dakmar (#16)

They worked for everyone else. No one stepped back for them. What a dreamer!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#16)

When i'm sixty-four

Granted, old people make me nervous, none of them have paint thinner.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#17) (Edited)

Why Do You Want to Be Famous?

Constant, unlimted sex.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Dakmar (#20)

Don't call that family then. Although they won't admit it, they believe that you should bomb nations for no good reason, invade and then send care packages to help the people you just bombed. No doubt a lot of free sex in these war zones.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   14:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#21) (Edited)

Don't call that family then. Although they won't admit it, they believe that you should bomb nations for no good reason,

Kristol illegally ADOPTED Co-opted ME, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   14:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dakmar (#22)

Ban forced adoptions now!!

(will that fit on a button with Krisol's face as the background?)

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   15:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin (#23)

Happy Jack Rocks!

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   15:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Dakmar (#24)

No one is allowed to build on the Isle of Man unless it is okayed by the planning commission. And they check behind all the haystacks now.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   15:06:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#8)

Don't expect any thanks.

lol! i don't.

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-26   15:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#26)

DALE ROCKS!!!

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   15:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#25) (Edited)

No one is allowed to build on the Isle of Man unless it is okayed by the planning commission. And they check behind all the haystacks now.

That's beautiful...Isle of Man is where Ned Devine was filmed. I also read an interesting blurb about it yesterday:

"....The Danaans [tribe of Dan] also settled on Cyprus and in ancient times it was known as Ia-Dan or the "Isle of Dan". The name of the Isle of Man in the Irish Sea, a place so important to the Druids, has the same origin, no doubt....."

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/dann.html

You know I have to comment on that...Tribe of Dan...can't let that one go by....

The Lost Tribe of Dan. And the coast of the children of Dan went out too little for them: therefore the children of Dan went up to fight against Leshem, and took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and possessed it, and dwelt therein, *** and called Leshem, Dan, after the name of Dan their father. This is the inheritance of the tribe of the children of Dan according to their families, these cities with their villages. Joshua 19:47-48 ... http://www.watch.pair.com/dan.html

Judeo-"British-Israel" :

"....Dan a Serpent's Trail

As the Eternal intended that "lost" Israel was to be located and found in these last days, we should expect some kinds of signs or waymarks to have been left along the trail by which ancient Israel journeyed from Assyria, the land of their original captivity.

Speaking to Ephraim (verse 20), the Eternal says in Jeremiah 31:21: "Set thee up waymarks, make thee high heaps: set thine heart toward the highway, even the way which thou wentest." In Scripture we find the "waymarks," or highway signs, which they set up along the road they traveled.

In Genesis 49:17, Jacob, foretelling what should befall each of the tribes, says: "Dan shall be a serpent by the way." Another translation of the original Hebrew is: "Dan shall be a serpent's trail." It is a significant fact that the tribe of Dan, one of the Ten Tribes, named every place they went after their father Dan.

The tribe of Dan originally occupied a strip of coast country on the Mediterranean, west of Jerusalem. "And the coast of the children of Dan," we read in Joshua 19:47, "went out too little for them: therefore the children of Dan went up to fight against Leshem, and took it. . .and called Leshen, DAN, after the name of Dan their father."

In Judges 18:11-12, it is recorded that Danites took Kirjath-jearim, and "called that place Mahanehdan unto this day." A little later the same company of 600 armed Danites came to Laish, captured it, and "they called the name of the city DAN, after the name of Dan their father" (verse 29). So notice how these Danites left their "serpent's trail" by the way - set up waymarks by which they may be traced today.

Remember, in the Hebrew, vowels were not written. The sound of the vowels had to be supplied in speaking. Thus, the word "Dan" in its English equivalent could be spelled, simply, "Dn." It might be pronounced as "Dan," or "Den," or "Din," or "Don," or "Dun" - and still could be the same original Hebrew name.

The tribe of Dan occupied two different districts, or provinces, in the Holy Land before the Assyrian captivity. One colony lived on the seacoast of Palestine. They were principally seamen, and it is recorded Dan abode in ships (Judges 5:17).

When Assyria captured Israel, these Danites struck out in their ships and sailed west through the Mediterranean and north to Ireland. Just before his death, Moses prophesied of Dan: "Dan is a lion's whelp: he shall leap from Bashan" (Deut. 33:22). Along the shores of the Mediterranean they left their trail in "Den," "Don," and "Din."

Irish annals and history show that the new settlers of Ireland, at just this time, were the "Tuatha de Danaans," which means, translated, "Tribe of Dan." Sometimes the same appears simply as "Tuatha De," meaning the "people of God." And in Ireland we find they left these "waymarks": Dans-Laugh, Dan-Sower, Dun-dalk, Dun-drum, Don-egal Bay, Don-egal City, Dun-gloe, Din-gle, Dunsmor (meaning "more Dans"). Moreover, the name Dunn in the Irish language means the same as Dan in the Hebrew: judge. [as in Noahide Laws :) ]

But the northern colony of Danites was taken to Assyria in the captivity, and thence with the rest of the Ten Tribes they traveled from Assyria by the overland route.

After leaving Assyrian captivity, they inhabited for some time the land just west of the Black Sea. There we find the rivers Dnieper, Dniester, and the Don. Then, in either ancient or later geography, we find these waymarks: Dan-au, the Dan-inn, the Dan-aster, the Dan-dari, the Dan-ez, the Don, the Dan, and the U-don; the Eri-don, down to the Danes. Denmark means "Dan's mark."

When they came to the British Isles, they set up the "waymark" names of Dun-dee, Dun-raven; in Scotland the "Dans," "Dons" and "Duns" are as prolific as in Ireland. And so the "serpent's trail" of Dan sets up waymarks that lead directly to the British Isles!....." [note: City of Lon-DON http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/visitors/history/gogmagog ]

http://reluctant-messenger.com/HWA/USandBritian/Chapter9.html

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Psa 49:11 Their inward thought [is, that] their houses [shall continue] for ever, [and] their dwelling places to all generations; they call [their] lands after their own names.

Psa 49:14 Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa049.html#11

Hab 2:12 Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!

Mic 3:10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.

Hab 2:8 Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men's blood, and [for] the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Hab/2/12.html

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Mic 2:2 And they covet fields, and take [them] by violence; and houses, and take [them] away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.

Woe to them that join field to field....that they may dwell alone in the earth.....

A People That Shall Dwell Alone: An Explanation of Jewish Behavior. by Erich Gliebe. American Dissident Voices Broadcast of March 24, 2007. Raphael Israeli ... http://www.natall.com/adv/2007/03-24-07.html

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my fingerpaint contribution for the day :)

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President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-26   16:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Dakmar (#27)

unfortunately, i can't do video.

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-26   16:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: robin (#25)

maybe they'd be happy for a while...

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   16:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#28)

I thought Wales was the most ancient inhabited place in the UK. If there were early migrations I would be looking there.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   16:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: robin (#31)

Wanna go sing dirges in the dark with me, boo?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   16:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#31)

Anyplace in the British Isles would be okay for me [Ireland would be my first choice], but apparently the Brits don't think it is going to come through the 'earth changes' or something, so the Queen is buying up property in Colorado [or so say the websites on the Denver Airport Murals].

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-26   16:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: robin (#33)

sorry...scratch that...i think i missed your drift.

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-01-26   16:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dakmar (#32)

Apocalypse ~dirge of swans~

How about a ballad instead?

The Ballad Of The Noob

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   16:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, tom007 (#33)

so the Queen is buying up property in Colorado [or so say the websites on the Denver Airport Murals].

Murals don't lie.

Maybe she'll get lost in an underground bunker there.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   16:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: robin (#35)

Helter swelter, jelly shelter, pop pup little pure-breed runaway, runrunarunaway.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   16:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Dakmar (#37)

I'll bet you don't know this run away song.

Slade- Run Runaway

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   16:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, (#36)

If all the hippies

cut off all their hair...I don't care.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   16:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Dakmar (#39)

Neither do we.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   16:32:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: robin (#38)

I'll bet you don't know this run away song.

Slade- Run Runaway

So? Come party with me, between the two of us us I bet we could make up one hell of a funny story.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   16:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: robin (#40)

I've said it before and I'll say it again: YIKES!!!

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   16:38:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar (#41)

I fairly certain we could write a better ballad than that noob.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-26   16:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: robin (#43)

last chance...

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   17:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#43)

Rush - Take A Friend

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-01-26   18:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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