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Title: PJB: Why McCain Would be Worse Than Bush
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/250108McCain.htm
Published: Jan 27, 2008
Author: Patrick J. Buchanan
Post Date: 2008-01-27 07:17:54 by Kamala
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PJB: Why McCain Would be Worse Than Bush

Patrick J. Buchanan

Friday January 25, 2008

In 2004, the voters of Arizona, by 56 percent to 44 percent, enacted Proposition 200, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual may vote or receive state benefits. Forty-six percent of Hispanics voted for Prop. 200, giving the lie to those who say Hispanics support the illegal invasion of their country.

Over 190,000 Arizonans petitioned to put Prop. 200 on the ballot. As it simply required proof of citizenship before receiving the benefits and privileges of citizenship, who could oppose it? Answer: the entire GOP congressional delegation, led by Sen. John McCain.

This is the same John McCain who battled the border fence and colluded with Teddy Kennedy on the amnesty bill rejected by Congress last year after a national uproar.

Bottom line: If the presidential race is between Hillary and Amnesty John, the border security battle is over and lost. As Laura Ingraham asks, “If Congress passes McCain-Kennedy in 2009, would President McCain sign it?”

For conservatives, the stakes could not be higher.

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For on the great controversies, McCain has sided as often with the Democrats and the Big Media that pay him court as with conservatives.

Where President Bush has been bravest, on taxes and judges, McCain has been his nemesis. Not only did McCain vote against the Bush tax cuts twice, he colluded to sell out the most conservative of the Bush nominees to the courts.

In 1993, McCain voted to confirm ACLU liberal and pro-abortion Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But when Bush set out to restore constitutionalism, McCain colluded with Democrats who wanted to retain power to kill Bush’s most conservative nominees.

McCain helped form the Gang of 14, including seven Democrats, who agreed to block a GOP Senate from using the “nuclear option” – allowing a simple GOP majority to break a Democrat filibuster of judicial nominees – unless the seven Democrats approved. McCain thus conspired with liberals to put at risk the most courageous conservatives nominees of President Bush.

With his record of voting for liberal justices Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and of colluding with Democrats in their campaign to kill the most conservative Bush nominees, what guarantee is there a President McCain will nominate and fight for the fifth jurist who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade?

In the battle over campaign finance reform, McCain colluded again. The McCain-Feingold law denies to gun folks and right-to-lifers their basic First Amendment right to name friends and foes in ads run before elections.

As for the policies that have transparently failed Bush and the nation, McCain remains an obdurate advocate.

After America has run five straight record trade deficits that have denuded the nation of thousands of factories and 3 million manufacturing jobs, McCain is still babbling on about Smoot-Hawley.

“When you study history, every time we’ve adopted protectionism, we’ve paid a very heavy price,” McCain told a Detroit paper after informing Michiganders their auto jobs are never coming back.

But what history is John McCain talking about?

Was the Tariff of 1816, which saved infant U.S. industries from the malicious dumping by British merchants after the War of 1812, a failure? Were Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Calhoun and Henry Clay fools to support President Madison’s tariff?

From Abraham Lincoln through Calvin Coolidge, the Republican Party – the Party of Protection – put 12 presidents in the White House to two for the Democrats, and the United States became the mightiest industrial power in history, producing 42 percent of the world’s manufactured goods.

This is failure – while Bush free trade is a success? Tell it to Ohio.

Even Hillary Clinton, whose husband enacted NAFTA with McCain’s support, has begun to question the NAFTA paradigm. Not McCain.

Where Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon came to office determined to extricate the nation with honor from a war whose costs had begun to outweigh any benefit, McCain is talking about spending 50 or 100 years in Iraq.

Where Bush, by moving NATO onto Russia’s doorstep, planting bases in Central Asia and intervening in the affairs of Russia’s neighbors, has undone the work of Reagan in making Russia a friend, he sounds like George McGovern alongside the braying McCain, who can’t wait to get into Vladimir Putin’s face.

Where Bush finally cleansed his administration of neocons, if not of their legacy, a McCain candidacy is the last, best hope of a neocon restoration and new military adventures in the Middle East.

If Rudy Giuliani founders in Florida, neocons will be chanting, “Mac is back!”

The three issues that ruined the Bush presidency are this misbegotten war in Iraq, the failure to secure America’s borders from invasion and a mindless trade policy that has destroyed the dollar and left foreigners with $5 trillion to buy up America at fire-sale prices.

McCain remains an unthinking advocate of all three.

But where Bush was at his best, on taxes and judges, McCain was collaborating with Hillary. The question conservatives may face if McCain is nominated is not whom should I vote for, but should I vote.

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#1. To: Kamala (#0)

McCain appears to have the nomination sewed up, but as someone here said (Elliot?), Bush has put the Rs into dessert for at least the next 40 ears. So, since i'd rather look at Obama for the next 4-8 years, rather than the Clintons, its better he ascends to the throne. Kumbuyaaaaa my Lord, Kumbuya, Ohhhhh Lord, Kumbuya

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-01-27   9:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

McCain's late fatherf the admiral called the jet fighter enroute to defend the USS Liberty from attacking Israeli aircraft back to the carriers. Was this treason or what? The Electric Jew wants McCain in the White House, even more than Hillary.

America would be better off with Black Obama in the White House.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-27   10:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zoroaster (#2)

America would be better off with Black Obama in the White House.

Whoever fixed the NH primary seems not to want Obama in the White House.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-27   10:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#3)

Whoever fixed the NH primary seems not to want Obama in the White House.

Excellent point. Obama does not seem to be phony. He's not the type of black promoted by the Electric Jew, say Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-27   10:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

America maybe ready for a women president it's a long away from a black one this will be the case on super Tuesday like it or not Clinton will get the nod when the dust settles and don't be surprised if the ticket is Clinton O'Bama vs John McCain and Libberman.....either way America is screwed unless of course Ron Paul wins my advice prepare accordingly

robnoel  posted on  2008-01-27   10:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robnoel (#5)

America maybe ready for a women president it's a long away from a black one this will be the case on super Tuesday like it or not Clinton will get the nod when the dust settles and don't be surprised if the ticket is Clinton O'Bama vs John McCain and Libberman.....either way America is screwed unless of course Ron Paul wins my advice prepare accordingly

I hope you're wrong, but chances are, you're right.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-01-27   10:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#3) (Edited)

Whoever fixed the NH primary seems not to want Obama in the White House.

Exit poll NH

Are you: ______Clinton Edwards Obama
Male (43%)____30%__ 19% ___42%
Female (57%)__47%__ 15% ___ 34%

Sorry gang.

2008 is the year of the bogey-women ... right out in the open
........................... not the bogey-men ..... behind the curtain.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   11:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zoroaster (#4)

Obama has not received support from the usual suspects. He appears to be outside the establisment.

Even Diebold could not overcome his big win in SC.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-27   11:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: iconoclast (#7)

I will never trust the result of any election until there is a return to hand-counted paper ballots, counted in public with witnesses, with a reliable chain of custody from the time cast until the time counted.

Until that happens, I shall continue to suspect such elections are rigged. Generally, the greater the consequence of a particular election, the greater the chance it is rigged.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-01-27   11:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robnoel (#5)

if the ticket is Clinton O'Bama vs John McCain and Libberman.....either way America is screwed unless of course Ron Paul wins my advice prepare accordingly

Ah, yes. But look at the bright side. It can no longer be said we're slipping into socialism. We're knee deep in it and there isn't a thing we can do about it. I’ve done the faxing, voting, emailing, calling, posting, and bitching so I’m plum out of non-violent options. My pessimism is actually realism, and if things are to change we at least need to agree as to where we presently are.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-01-27   11:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: iconoclast (#7)

That would be the exit poll after they "adjusted" it to reflect the reported results. That's not the exit poll people like Chris Matthews and John Eliot of Air America say they were seeing shortly before the polls closed. That exit poll had Obama over Hillary by several points, overall.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-01-27   11:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zoroaster (#4)

He's not the type of black promoted by the Electric Jew, say Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton.

I saw Sharpton slinking toward the bandwagon on the tube last night.

Jackson won't be far behind.

Neither will scramble aboard unless/until SC turns out to be a mirage.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   11:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: aristeides (#11)

That would be the exit poll after they "adjusted" it to reflect the reported results.

God help us.

"THEY" are everywhere!!! /sarc

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   11:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: aristeides (#11)

That exit poll had Obama over Hillary by several points, overall.

double digit is what I recall

The final result surprised everyone. The explanations by the talking heads about the disparity between exit polls and the count were hilarious. "No one wanted to admit they were not voting for a Black man". Good grief.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-27   11:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All herein (#13) (Edited)

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Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   12:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

My pessimism is actually realism, and if things are to change we at least need to agree as to where we presently are.

I know where we are....we are in deep $hit!

robnoel  posted on  2008-01-27   12:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Sam Houston (#9)

I will never trust the result of any election until there is a return to hand-counted paper ballots, counted in public with witnesses, with a reliable chain of custody from the time cast until the time counted.

The video is laughable/cryable.

Any background info available on "Butch and Hoppy"?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   13:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: iconoclast, Sam Houston (#17)

Bev Harris has worked very hard to at least document the "problems".

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-27   13:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: aristeides, Sam Houston, iconoclast (#11)

REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER: Election Fraud Roundtable

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-27   13:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#19)

black box bump

It's good to see Mark Cuban getting involved with the truth movement.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity

Lod  posted on  2008-01-27   13:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin. aristeides, Sam Houston, (#19) (Edited)

Folks, on reflection, I just keep coming back to the fact that there is so much skepticism, so much mistrust, so much mutual animosity between partisans that i fear there will never be another un-disputed election.

Sam, your thing is paper ballots ... your video involved paper ballots. You want a reliable chain of custody, and public counting with witnesses .... what would constitute that? If you can't trust your neighbors, who then?

It does not take a Perry Mason to "uncover problems". Watching the voting process is a lot like watching sausages made, always has been.

Am I naive? No, in fact I'm quite a skeptic. Take this outfit blackboxballoting or whatever ... what makes them so trustworthy? They're apparently making a living off of fears. If the circumstances here yielded such suspicion, then why didn't they spend the night to actually catch somebody in the act? What's their track record .... how many have they caught in the act?

Fear, fear fear ........ we're immersed in it, from the ME to NY to DC to our own neighborhoods.

God help us .. we're very close to not being able to sustain a Republic.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   15:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: iconoclast (#21)

If the discrepancy becomes too obvious I hope we would revolt. IOW, it will take a big win to win, like Obama did yesterday in SC over Hillary.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-27   15:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#22)

If the discrepancy becomes too obvious I hope we would revolt.

I don't have a lot of faith in armed revolt.

In one of our suburbs recently a one day deer hunt was held to thin 'em out. Hell, they were thicker than squirrels, eating the shrubs, romping through yards.

One deer was shot. No one hunts anymore. We're no longer a nation of Minutemen. Shucks, a sizable number won't eat meat anymore, some claim to be able to hear fish scream, next will be vegetables I suppose.

Sure, scattered uprisings could occur in Idaho, Montana, other parts of the hinterland. They'd be starved out or massacred. We in the cities would be as occupied with looting thugs as much with Federals.

I'd guess a military coup would be more likely. Oh joy, oh bliss!

Our once proud nation slips into irrelevance as we scurry to carry our corrupted culture to every corner of the globe.

Come home America before it's too late.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   16:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: iconoclast (#23)

Our once proud nation slips into irrelevance as we scurry to carry our corrupted culture to every corner of the globe.

Come home America before it's too late.

Outstanding - perfectly said.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity

Lod  posted on  2008-01-27   16:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: iconoclast (#23)

I wasn't thinking of armed revolt, more like mass protests. Clearly we're slow about getting organized.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
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robin  posted on  2008-01-27   16:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#25)

I wasn't thinking of armed revolt, more like mass protests. Clearly we're slow about getting organized.

Sadly, we couldn't even get a boycott of the Republican Party going by November.

Don't believe me? Just try it here in our own little universe.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   17:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: iconoclast (#21)

Paper ballots counted by machines and compiled by central tabulators is still not good enough for me. I want humans back in control of the ENTIRE process and other disinterested humans to be keeping an eye on the interested ones.

I want to give the unemployed jobs counting the paper ballots by hand while vigilant citizens watch them do so (not from a distance, either) and video them as they are doing so.

Webcams could even be set up so interested netizens could also witness the process.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-01-27   17:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#25)

Remember, remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason, why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-01-27   17:22:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-01-27   17:25:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Sam Houston (#27)

Paper ballots counted by machines and compiled by central tabulators is still not good enough for me. I want humans back in control of the ENTIRE process and other disinterested humans to be keeping an eye on the interested ones.

I want to give the unemployed jobs counting the paper ballots by hand while vigilant citizens watch them do so (not from a distance, either) and video them as they are doing so.

Webcams could even be set up so interested netizens could also witness the process.

how novel ;)

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-01-27   17:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: iconoclast (#23)

Sure, scattered uprisings could occur in Idaho, Montana, other parts of the hinterland. They'd be starved out or massacred. We in the cities would be as occupied with looting thugs as much with Federals.

I'd guess a military coup would be more likely. Oh joy, oh bliss!

your scenario is probably dead on.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-01-27   18:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

McCain appears to have the nomination sewed up, but as someone here said (Elliot?), Bush has put the Rs into dessert for at least the next 40 ears. So, since i'd rather look at Obama for the next 4-8 years, rather than the Clintons, its better he ascends to the throne. Kumbuyaaaaa my Lord, Kumbuya, Ohhhhh Lord, Kumbuya

Yeppers, that was me. I'm thinking 25 years, minimum, before another Republican makes it to the presidency, if then. Probably more like 30 to 40 years. Honestly, all any Democratic candidate for the Presidency will have to do for the next 20 years will be to accuse their opponent of being another George W. Bush, and that's it, the Pubbie will be toast on a stick.

Mark my words, this November is going to be such a disaster for the Republicans that their heads will be swimming. I'm thinking they're going to lose 80% or more of every single election, from city council seats to the Presidency, and everything in-between. It's going to be so astonishingly bad for them that many will be predicting the end of the Republican party, and they'll have George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to thank for it ail.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-01-27   18:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Sam Houston (#27)

want humans back in control of the ENTIRE process and other disinterested humans to be keeping an eye on the interested ones.

I want to give the unemployed jobs counting the paper ballots by hand while vigilant citizens watch them do so (not from a distance, either) and video them as they are doing so.

Webcams could even be set up so interested netizens could also witness the process.

All good thoughts.

But we are, and will be, challenged by the indisputable fact that poll working does not even assume the level of a part-time job.

Thus we face with these very important tasks to be assumed by, essentially, under trained volunteers.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   18:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Elliott Jackalope (#32) (Edited)

Yeppers, that was me. I'm thinking 25 years, minimum, before another Republican makes it to the presidency

HeeHee ... I think we may be twins separated at birth. Have I said that before? ;-)

Except I hope this election is the absolute death knell of the Betrayer Party, with a new, true conservative, constitutionalist party replacing them by 2012, or 2016 .. latest.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   18:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Sam Houston (#27)

"Webcams could even be set up.........."

I really like the webcam idea

but what if it really dosen't matter to "them" who wins?

All are CFR, except DR Paul, so I expect we will get pretty much the same governance from any of the rest.

That is why it is so important for "them" to keep him invisible in MSM

castletrash  posted on  2008-01-27   18:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Zoroaster (#2)

America would be better off with Black Obama in the White House.

America would be better off with Black Obama in the White House than any of the empty suit Pubbie "front-runners".

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   18:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: castletrash (#35)

I really like the webcam idea

They would have approximately the same effect as CPA auditors, some level of intimidation .... nothing more.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   18:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: iconoclast (#37)

Maybe I just like to watch....I have a lot of time to kill

castletrash  posted on  2008-01-27   18:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: castletrash (#38) (Edited)

Maybe I just like to watch.

Watchers are kinky. ;-)

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-01-27   19:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: iconoclast (#34)

Except I hope this election is the absolute death knell of the Betrayer Party, with a new, true conservative, constitutionalist party replacing them by 2012, or 2016 .. latest.

Check these turnout number for the primaries so far:

Iowa: 239,000 Democratic voters, 114,000 Republican.

New Hampshire: 287,000 Democratic, 238,000 Republican

Nevada: 116,000 Democratic, 44,000 Republican

South Carolina (A VERY Republican state) - 532,000 Democratic, 431,000 Republican

The Republicans are going to be whipped like cross-eyed red-headed stepchildren this November. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-01-28   2:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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