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Title: Canine Unit Being Contracted For My Kids' Private School (How Would You Respond? Please Help))
Source: Email correspondence from school principal
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jan 28, 2008
Author: IndieTX
Post Date: 2008-01-28 15:30:11 by IndieTX
Keywords: None
Views: 423
Comments: 30

We are contracting with Interquest, a canine unit, which will come onto our campus periodically. Though **** has great kids, we are not immune from drug and alcohol issues. This is the same company that serves the AISD, Nolan, FW Christian, Southwest Christian, etc. If you have any questions, please contact me.

--principal


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For some perspective, I'm an ex-cop. I believe marijuana should be legalized. Regardless, I've spent tons of time at their school during school hours, after school hours and at extracuricular events. I know many of the kids. I have NEVER mentally sensed something was up, smelled anything, seen anything, noticed anything but the best behavior among the students...no drugs, no alcohol...keep in mind this canine unit is for ON campus.

I also believe it is a violation of the 4th Amendment regardless of what the JusticeIndustrialComplex thinks.

In one building, there are K-6th grades. Across the walkway, there are 7th through 12th. Everyone knows everyone else, everyone gets along..you'd have to see it to understand how ridiculous this canine idea is.

This is a rather small Christian school and I see no reason why this "threat" needs to be foisted upon the kids to intimidate them. Is this principal just trying to mimick everyone else and allow the PoliceState to INFECT these kids' lives? IMO, this is an accident or ruined innocent life waiting to happen.

How would YOU respond to the principal? I'm an excellent writer but I'm too POed about this one to think straight.

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#10. To: IndieTX (#0)

(How Would You Respond? Please Help))

There is only one answer; prepare to change schools, and make sure that the pricipal knows this.

Contact other parents and voice your concerns, and ask for a consenus; everyone acting together.

But regardless of what the others do, prepare. Home schooling is an option if there is no other.

richard9151  posted on  2008-01-28   15:42:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: richard9151, all, ghostdogtxn (#10) (Edited)

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-01-28   16:10:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: IndieTX (#13)

"Those who would give up a little freedom for security DESERVE NEITHER." -- BENJAMIN FRANKLIN (I learned that in High School. The President, evidently, did not.)

Is injecting politics of Chimperor a bad idea?)

Maybe yes.

They might think you equate 'freedom' with 'drugs'.

They might take it as too emotional.

wudidiz  posted on  2008-01-28   16:14:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz (#14) (Edited)

Dear Mr Emler and Mrs Bunker,

I was a Dallas Police Officer for several years. I have some pertinent questions for you both regarding the decision to employ a private canine unit on **** property.

1. Who was involved in contracting this private company? The board of directors?

2. Will the dog be on campus during school hours?

3. Were the parents consulted before this decision was made? (rhetorical question)

4. Is there some PROBABLE CAUSE that makes either one of you or anyone on the board think that **** has a problem with drugs on campus all of the sudden on January 28, 2008???? If something is amiss, I really want to know. Or are we just spending the money on this to be "preemptive?"

5. Has anyone involved in this decision researched the psychological effects of a canine search unit in school and HOW they actually do their work? (I have) Has anyone researched it at all or are we just copying the MO of the rest of the world without considering the many psychological or physical risks?

6. Does anyone involved in this decision, even though a private entity has the right to do as they please with regard to search and seizure, read the 4th Amendment to the Constitution? This will be a great lesson for the children in whether the Constitution applies in certain situations, and they will soon find out it does NOT apply on private property, as well as scare the heck out of many.

7. Again, I would like to know the specific rationale used in deciding to deploy a drug sniffing dog on the *** campus, as well as the answers to the above questions. I request emphatically that you show cause why you believe that dog cops are needed because again, if something is going on, I want to know about it. Without good cause to deploy a dog, I interpret this as evidence that the school and its mission are being corrupted by the public school police state modus operandi...

Such matters are best handled other ways..and there are other ways. I have MANY reasons why I am against this, all of which I can state plainly should it become necessary. The number one reason it that this is an accident waiting to happen (dog bites child) or an innocent life just waiting to be destroyed (I can explain what I mean by this and it refers to the integrity of the private contractor. What better way to make one's corporate existence relevant than to plant reasons, i.e. "throw down" drugs?), however I will withhold final judgement until I hear the answers to the above.

It is obvious I am not "soft on crime" from my DPD credentials, AND I BELIEVE STRONGLY IN CAMPUS SECURITY. (Thank you for building the fence!!! Our CHILDREN NEED this protection as well as the teachers!!) But are drug searches a security issue? I can illustrate why the risks of such an operation outweigh possible perceived benefits. Unless we fear that actual non-student drug dealers will come onto our campus (the fence and security cameras should hopefully stop that), how can a dog stop them? A dog's purpose is to alert to the presence of what it has been trained to find, or whatever it's handler places there for it to find.

A much simpler way, if you insist on this course of action, is, IF you have reason, to employ the ***** Police Dept to conduct a canine search AFTER HOURS, rather than a private contractor to conduct random anytime searches. And I would even disagreee with this due to the below.

And how could an innocent student have their lives ruined you may ask???? All it takes is one bad kid to throw down a bag of drugs into an innocent kid's locker. My child has had liquid poured into his locker because the top was not secure. Also anything could be slipped through a locker vent. Can you not see the implications of your action??? It is always better that an innocent person not be incarcerated rather than a guilty one to be caught. (They taught me that in the Police Academy!)

I don't believe that there is any perceived problem at ***. I believe this is a preemptive decision because it seems to be popular in today's sick society. It is a dangerous and hazardous path down which you have chosen to wander.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you,

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> Just a couple of updates: > · We are contracting with Interquest, a canine unit, which will come onto our campus periodically. Though *** has great kids, we are not immune from drug and alcohol issues. This is the same company that serves the AISD, Nolan, FW Christian, Southwest Christian, etc. If you have any questions, please contact me.

Better??

IndieTX  posted on  2008-01-28   16:34:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-01-28   16:48:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: ghostdogtxn (#19)

I'd bet you dollars to donuts you don't have a drug problem. You have a salesman problem.

A most excellent point...follow the money.

Lod  posted on  2008-01-28   16:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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