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Title: vanity: 401k help please!
Source: me
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Published: Jan 29, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-01-29 23:32:47 by kiki
Keywords: None
Views: 464
Comments: 12

ok, I have this 401k from a job I had a few years back. I left the job and left the 401 account, and kinda forgot about it. my current job doesn't have a plan.

I'm horrible with money and have a good deal of high interest credit card debt.

so last week, I was home sick and bored and actually opened a 401 statement and was shocked on several levels. first, I was surprised at how much money was in it, not a fortune (about 68k) but way more than I ever paid into it. second, in the last quarter of last year it lost a little more than 6%.

so I thought why am I carrying debt and paying all this interest while this money is sitting there, gradually being depleted? I called and told them to send it to me. they made me talk to a counselor, who was good but couldn't change my mind.

I also found out it's lost another 4% in january, since the statement I was looking at. I wish I'd gotten it last september, but then I'd be dealing with it on this year's taxes.

so I will get this check and pay off my debt, cut up my credit cards and try to live within my means. but there will be money left over. I understand that I have 60 days to put it in an ira to avoid part of a 10% penalty.

this is my question: if I put it in an ira and that tanks like my 401 was doing, then I'll have nothing, right? if I pay the penalty, I'll have whatever's left over. that's seeming like a better way to go to me. what should I do? do I have other options?

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#10. To: kiki (#0)

If you do the 1040 game then they´ll expect not only the 10% penalty but regular taxes as well. That´ll hit you pretty hard, probably.

You can roll it over into a precious metals IRA that doesn´t rely on stocks. If you did that a year or 2 ago you´d be real happy now.

Though some here expect a major crash to com with severe deflation as credit money disappears. That would mean paper money would be a good investment.

But I´d definitely go with a PM IRA before doing a stock market IRA.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-01-30   17:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite, Original_Intent, jwh_Denver, honway, Robin (#10)

thanks so much everyone! I just knew I'd get good advice here! now I have much to think about - oy.....

Robin, of course my favorite advice is to go to vegas. but one thing I've learned - the money I take to vegas, stays in vegas :)

kiki  posted on  2008-01-30   22:08:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: kiki (#11)

You did get some good advice and I'm glad to see that. Gold and gold stocks are how I made my money and gold is still going to go up tremendously (it hit a new high today). The gold advice and the shrinking dollar advice is very good and as you can see there are a number of ways to do that. That financial hardship thing I talked about is pure BS. I had talked to a human resource person who works for a big company and just slapped it in there. After I thought about it late last nite I realized it couldn't be true.

Don't hestitate to ask someone here for advice though you will always make the decision on what you will do. Email them if you want to go underground. Again, the best to and for you.

Here is a gold chart. As I said there is plenty of room for it to go up.

http://tinyurl.com/2tycp6

Flip that chart upside down and it would look like the US dollar chart. Not funny I know.

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